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legendary
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April 04, 2015, 11:25:33 AM
Ukraine plans to build the Black and Azov Ship Canal, which would turn the Crimea peninsula into an island...

This is a massive project that requires tens of billions of USD. Ukraine is already in deep debt, and they won't be able to afford any of this. And by the way, I can't see any major benefits from this planned canal as well....

Well, it´s an old idea of the Russians in the 19th century and the Soviets in the 20th to simplify the transport between the ports of Odessa and Mariupol.

Hmmm.. Mariupol is currently the most important steel producer in Ukraine. So it makes sense to create the canal. But as I said, it is an extremely expensive project requiring a lot of funds. The Kiev junta right now can't even feed its own people. Do you think they will seriously consider it?
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April 03, 2015, 11:56:44 PM
Ukraine plans to build the Black and Azov Ship Canal, which would turn the Crimea peninsula into an island...

This is a massive project that requires tens of billions of USD. Ukraine is already in deep debt, and they won't be able to afford any of this. And by the way, I can't see any major benefits from this planned canal as well....

Well, it´s an old idea of the Russians in the 19th century and the Soviets in the 20th to simplify the transport between the ports of Odessa and Mariupol.
legendary
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April 03, 2015, 10:22:20 PM
Ukraine plans to build the Black and Azov Ship Canal, which would turn the Crimea peninsula into an island...

This is a massive project that requires tens of billions of USD. Ukraine is already in deep debt, and they won't be able to afford any of this. And by the way, I can't see any major benefits from this planned canal as well....
legendary
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April 03, 2015, 04:59:53 PM
Crimea is now self-sufficient with water. 8 aqueducts have been laid from deep-water wells to supply the canal with water. Also, a new desalination plant is to be launched this summer.

Here is the report from 28th of March about the planned works:
http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20150328/1055132169.html
Saw the news on TV today that the works are now complete.



Sneaky buggers...

http://tass.ru/en/russia/787107

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MOSCOW, April 3. /TASS/. The work of the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) mission in Ukraine cannot spread to the territory of Crimea, Russia’s OSCE envoy Andrey Kelin said on Friday.

"When the mandate of the mission was adopted and then extended, we made a very clear statement that Crimea does not fall under the mission’s mandate. It is the territory of Russia," Kelin said during a Moscow-Vienna video link-up.
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April 03, 2015, 10:57:06 AM
CRIMEA COULD BECOME AN ISLAND

Ukraine plans to build the Black and Azov Ship Canal, which would turn the Crimea peninsula into an island...

How the bankrupt country would fund this gigantic project is unclear.

http://1info.net/stati-novosti-soobschenija/interesno/krym-mozhet-stat-ostrovom.html?_utl_t=fb

Once Ukraine falls apart and Odessa and the southern part rejoin Russia this attractive option may become viable.
legendary
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March 31, 2015, 04:25:08 AM
Maybe, but things are changing. Many of them were participated in the uprising against the junta, for example.

If they can live like law abiding citizens, then it is OK. If they want to go back to the 90s, when organized Tatar gangs were seizing ethnic Russian farms and murdering anyone who was opposing them, then I am afraid that only a mass deportation to Turkey will solve the problem.
legendary
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March 31, 2015, 03:27:29 AM
Maybe, but things are changing. Many of them were participated in the uprising against the junta, for example.
legendary
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March 30, 2015, 10:29:36 PM
Tatars weren't angels. Crimean Khanate sold millions of russian, polish, lithuanian people into slavery. Their activity was a real PITA for everybody, someone had to resolve this issue.

Tatars were the worst of the barbarians. And contrary to the Western perception, they were not native to Crimea. They were Turkic Asians who migrated to Crimea with Ottoman support.

An account about the slavery in Crimea:

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Fisher estimates that in the sixteenth century the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth lost around 20,000 individuals a year and that from 1474 to 1694, as many as a million Commonwealth citizens were carried off into Crimean slavery.

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It seems that the position and everyday conditions of a slave depended largely on his/her owner. Some slaves indeed could spend the rest of their days doing exhausting labor: as the Crimean vizir (minister) Sefer Gazi Aga mentions in one of his letters, the slaves were often “a plough and a scythe” of their owners. Most terrible, perhaps, was the fate of those who became galley-slaves, whose sufferings were poeticized in many Ukrainian dumas (songs). ... Both female and male slaves were often used for sexual purposes.
legendary
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March 30, 2015, 02:13:11 PM

nice one ... because now people live like this





And you forget to add that in Russia day after ... masked people try to remove all sign of memoration for Nemtsov ... now some people wanted to keep an eye ... to avoid ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFzv21aYuvM
legendary
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March 30, 2015, 02:07:37 PM
Peacefull people LoL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPAh42T3jHc


Hooo 500 russian with no name ... perhaps their family seek about them somwhere ? Poutine give any apologies for little green men dead in unknow world ?

You can easily confirm on Google Earth - 47°19'4.36"N 39°42'6.36"E.

Before Russian ...



After Russian non invasion LoL ...



Welcome to Rostov-On-Don the no man's land dead russian ....

Of course now all pro-russian propaganda will tell that google send fake picture ?






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March 28, 2015, 04:46:47 AM
Well Balthazar, usually even the most despicable MFers attained an almost angelic status when they fought/were  dealt with by the enemies of the interests that funded the writers of history books/own the mass media and politicians nowadays. The examples are countless to this day. I guess it´s as old as civilization.
legendary
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March 28, 2015, 03:59:41 AM
When Catherine the Great Invaded the Crimea and Put the Rest of the World on Edge

A Crimean state controlled by Tartars gained its independence from the Ottoman Empire in 1774 after the Russo-Turkish War. The treaty brought Crimea within Russia’s sphere of influence before it was formally annexed in 1783. The Ottomans started a second Russo-Turkish War (1787–1792) during Catherine's reign. This war proved catastrophic for the Ottomans and ended with the Treaty of Jassy (1792), which legitimized the Russian claim to Crimea.



Tatars weren't angels. Crimean Khanate sold millions of russian, polish, lithuanian people into slavery. Their activity was a real PITA for everybody, someone had to resolve this issue.
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Decentralized Jihad
March 28, 2015, 03:57:37 AM
"Russi-a-a-a!!! Crimea is ours!" Cheesy



https://vid.me/J8kE (NSFW)
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March 28, 2015, 02:53:18 AM
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March 28, 2015, 02:29:16 AM
This day in history

The Turks declared war on Russia in October 1853, and a Turkish army crossed the Danube, defeating the Russians at the battle of Oltenitza (4 November 1853), in southern Rumania. On 30 November the Russians defeated a Turkish fleet at Sinope, in an encounter most significant for the introduction of shell guns by the Russians, although their control of the Black Sea was short lived, and a Franco-British fleet entered the Black Sea in January 1854. On 28 March 1854, Britain and France declared war on Russia, and moved to help the Turks.

legendary
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March 25, 2015, 05:05:49 PM
Some news pertaining Crimea.

Kiev puppets were instructed to make enemies with Turkey. Turkish trade ship was arrested and impounded by Ukraine for stopping over in Sevastopol last year:
http://www.vz.ru/news/2015/3/25/736295.html

And Ukrainian Rada decided how elections will be conducted in a foreign state - in Crimea.  Grin
legendary
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March 23, 2015, 05:48:34 PM
Crimea For Dummies. Documentary by an American
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xURFKxliGh8

Lada alerted about it in a heads-up post here.
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2015/03/23/crimea-for-dummies-documentary-by-an-american/
What I found most interesting was a comment from a resident of Japan that followed the post, and Lada's response to it:

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patriciaormsby | March 23, 2015 at 4:53 am

Hatoyama was ridiculed harshly on the Sunday news debate program for doing exactly as this fellow: going there himself to see what is true and what isn’t. A few of the panelists seemed to recognize the seriousness of the Ukraine stand-off, though the majority of those had been “brainwashed” by America, to use a word Hatoyama himself used about Japan, and called Russia the aggressor.

In Japan, many people will be fooled and remain stubbornly so. Those that go to America these days and go beyond the Japanese “bubble” of packaged tours (even English school programs insulate the students from actual interactions with the natives), can see that America is no longer the “knight in shining armor” that would defend human rights. They are few, but I think Hatoyama was popular enough, and people realize he is not an idiot. Knowledge of a duality of “truth” is also a strong part of Japanese culture, with an “official truth” and the “actual reality,” so there are many who will quickly ascertain why the government is attacking our ex-Prime Minister. I wonder if my friend who scoffed at the idea of Nazis in Kiev because he’d heard that it was only Russian propaganda from sources he trusted, were still alive (accident or murder–we still don’t know), if Hatoyama’s brave action would cause him to reconsider what I was telling him.

Sources like the Guardian are trusted because they have exposed scandals in the recent past. They and Avaaz, whom we saw exposed the other day, can become serious obstacles to revealing the truth. The late Michael C. Ruppert, who had worked for the LA police and a stint for the CIA, said that for disinformation to work, it has to be 95% (not sure of the exact figure) accurate. We who fight that 5% of lies have a frustrating time. As a rule, once a source lies to me, I never trust it again.

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Lada Ray | March 23, 2015 at 5:29 am

Very well put!
I know from direct Crimean sources that Hatoyama did go to Crimea and was charmed and very impressed by how happy Crimeans were to be with Russia. Me, I didn’t need to go anywhere – I always knew that.
He said that it was so nice in Crimea he wouldn’t mind living there. In response, Crimean authorities offered him Crimean citizenship, as a good will jesture I guess, and he said he would consider it if he has trouble in Japan and if government prevents his return. Perhaps he was being polite, or who knows, he may consider it after all. It appears Japanese govt took all that as a personal insult.
That’s in addition to being US puppets.
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March 23, 2015, 02:44:13 AM
When Catherine the Great Invaded the Crimea and Put the Rest of the World on Edge

A Crimean state controlled by Tartars gained its independence from the Ottoman Empire in 1774 after the Russo-Turkish War. The treaty brought Crimea within Russia’s sphere of influence before it was formally annexed in 1783. The Ottomans started a second Russo-Turkish War (1787–1792) during Catherine's reign. This war proved catastrophic for the Ottomans and ended with the Treaty of Jassy (1792), which legitimized the Russian claim to Crimea.


legendary
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March 23, 2015, 02:34:34 AM
The nationality count from the Crimean Census of 2014 has been published.

Ethnicity

Total population: 2,284,800   
Russian: 1,492,000 (67.9%)
Ukrainian: 344,500 (15.7%)
Tatar: 277,300 (12.6%)
Belorussian: 21,700 (1.0%)
Armene: 11,000 (0.5%)
Others: 50,300 (2.3%)

Native Language

Russian: 84.0%
Tatar: 11.6%
Ukrainian: 3.3%
Others: 1.1%
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