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legendary
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May 16, 2014, 08:40:14 AM
Some interesting news regarding Crimea:

Putin said that it is not defensible to involve Crimean people in the discussions between Russia and Ukraine:
http://itar-tass.com/politika/1191437?utm_medium=rss20

Hrivna will stop being circulated in Crimea and Sevastopol from the 1st of June:
http://www.interfax.ru/russia/376507

All public demonstrations and are prohibited in Crimea until the 6th of June, citing unrest in the South-Eastern regions of Ukraine and the desire to prevent any provocations:
http://www.regnum.ru/news/polit/1802523.html
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May 16, 2014, 07:31:06 AM
Don't forget about NATO, NATO troops are able to perform some democratical corrections just like Warsaw Pact troops did in 1968.

Since you mentioned '68 , I think that Romanian troops will stay out of it just like we did back then Wink.
legendary
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May 16, 2014, 07:28:01 AM
Don't forget about NATO, NATO troops are able to perform some democratical corrections just like Warsaw Pact troops did in 1968.
legendary
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May 16, 2014, 07:21:39 AM
The continuity of the European Union support for the US is in doubt. Elections are due in less than two weeks time, and opinion polls indicate that the far-right and the far-left are poised to make big gains, especially in countries such as France, Netherlands and Austria. Both the extreme-left and the extreme-right are not supportive of the US policy on Ukraine. We might see some sort of a compromise... may be resulting in the recognition of Crimea as a part of Russia.
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May 16, 2014, 05:58:35 AM
Putin just said it will not happen. He is not known to back off on his statements:
http://rt.com/business/159200-ukraine-gas-russia-payment/

The other scenario that you mentioned is more likely: Ukraine fragmenting and falling apart so much that there is no one left to pay the debt, in which case IMF suggests "default and debt restructuring".

Well , getting my popcorn ready Smiley
legendary
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May 16, 2014, 05:48:45 AM
Putin just said it will not happen. He is not known to back off on his statements:
http://rt.com/business/159200-ukraine-gas-russia-payment/

The other scenario that you mentioned is more likely: Ukraine fragmenting and falling apart so much that there is no one left to pay the debt, in which case IMF suggests "default and debt restructuring".
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May 16, 2014, 04:45:02 AM
On the other hand, Russia's biggest money maker IS the raw materials, so they don't have much of a choise to make.
Actually they have some options:

* Continue to sell gas through the North Stream and ignore everything what happends around. Southern europe will throw down an unelected Brussel's junta as the result.
* Force europe to pay ukrainian bills... Directly, through loan or by paying increased price.
* Build alternate gasline to sell gas without participation of thieves in the Ukraine.
* Build gasline to China and abandon the european market for good.
* ...

So, Merkel & incorporated have got a bunch of problems... They seriously need to start talking about problems which they have created, instead of brainwashing people and supporting a coup-appointed government in the Kiev.

And in the end they will just look the other way and they will continue supplying Ukraine with gas Wink.
I said it before that i believe this will happen even after the ultimatum.
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May 15, 2014, 07:12:17 PM
Crimea is a done deal now Russia has it and will fight tooth and nail for it. Its not going anywhere soon.
legendary
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May 15, 2014, 03:49:35 PM
On the other hand, Russia's biggest money maker IS the raw materials, so they don't have much of a choise to make.
Actually they have some options:

* Continue to sell gas through the North Stream and ignore everything what happends around. Southern europe will throw down an unelected Brussel's junta as the result.
* Force europe to pay ukrainian bills... Directly, through loan or by paying increased price.
* Build alternate gasline to sell gas without participation of thieves in the Ukraine.
* Build gasline to China and abandon the european market for good.
* ...

So, Merkel & incorporated have got a bunch of problems... They seriously need to start talking about problems which they have created, instead of brainwashing people and supporting a coup-appointed government in the Kiev.
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May 15, 2014, 01:46:27 PM
It's not a problem at all... Germans even had autonomous republic in the USSR:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volga_German_Autonomous_Soviet_Socialist_Republic

First head of state was Ernst Reuter, who later was elected as a mayor of Berlin.

Unfortunately that autonomy was terminated when Hitler have started a war.

Right now, there are two German autonomous districts in Russia (both of them located in Siberia).

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutscher_Nationalrajon_Asowo
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutscher_Nationalrajon_(Region_Altai)

In addition to this, there are several German national villages all across Russia.

Well , they should all claim independence Smiley.
Autonomous villages.

But it will be a pain in the ass to get a water pipe from the Danube to that region and not crossing Russian territory Smiley.

Well, Europe has a big problem anyway, becouse the Gazprom gasline runs trough Ukrain and into Europe, we are quite in need of this gas and can't afford to lose it.
On the other hand, Russia's biggest money maker IS the raw materials, so they don't have much of a choise to make.

If every single village is going to declare themselfs independant we'r going to get some heavy stuff to cope with, e.g. civil wars, water, gas, roads, electro and so on.
legendary
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May 15, 2014, 06:21:31 AM
It's not a problem at all... Germans even had autonomous republic in the USSR:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volga_German_Autonomous_Soviet_Socialist_Republic

First head of state was Ernst Reuter, who later was elected as a mayor of Berlin.

Unfortunately that autonomy was terminated when Hitler have started a war.

Right now, there are two German autonomous districts in Russia (both of them located in Siberia).

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutscher_Nationalrajon_Asowo
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutscher_Nationalrajon_(Region_Altai)

In addition to this, there are several German national villages all across Russia.

Well , they should all claim independence Smiley.
Autonomous villages.

But it will be a pain in the ass to get a water pipe from the Danube to that region and not crossing Russian territory Smiley.
legendary
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May 15, 2014, 01:51:33 AM
Yep, but autonomous republic is much better than autonomous district. Roll Eyes

Well... most of the German population has emigrated to Germany. In the oblasts of Samara and Saratov (location corresponding to the Volga German USSR), only around 1% of the population is ethnic German. So establishing an autonomous republic is not possible.
legendary
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May 15, 2014, 01:36:11 AM
Yep, but autonomous republic is much better than autonomous district. Roll Eyes

legendary
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May 15, 2014, 01:29:35 AM
It's not a problem at all... Germans even had autonomous republic in the USSR:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volga_German_Autonomous_Soviet_Socialist_Republic

First head of state was Ernst Reuter, who later was elected as a mayor of Berlin.

Unfortunately that autonomy was terminated when Hitler have started a war.

Right now, there are two German autonomous districts in Russia (both of them located in Siberia).

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutscher_Nationalrajon_Asowo
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutscher_Nationalrajon_(Region_Altai)

In addition to this, there are several German national villages all across Russia.
Fdt
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May 15, 2014, 01:03:37 AM
Lol I never knew. Amazing. Post your forexcoin or whichever coin you like addy for tips  Smiley

I hope that the entire Crimean Goth community will return to their homeland

I never thought that there were ethnic Germans in Crimea. The Crimean peninsula is quite far from Germany.
It's not a problem at all... Germans even had autonomous republic in the USSR:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volga_German_Autonomous_Soviet_Socialist_Republic

But autonomy was terminated when Hitler have started a war.
legendary
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May 15, 2014, 12:59:30 AM
I hope that the entire Crimean Goth community will return to their homeland

I never thought that there were ethnic Germans in Crimea. The Crimean peninsula is quite far from Germany.
It's not a problem at all... Germans even had autonomous republic in the USSR:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volga_German_Autonomous_Soviet_Socialist_Republic

First head of state was Ernst Reuter, who later was elected as a mayor of Berlin.

Unfortunately that autonomy was terminated when Hitler have started a war.
legendary
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May 14, 2014, 11:28:11 PM
You're mistaken the two populations:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_Goths (probably extinct)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimea_Germans (the ones the article is about).

Nope. Most of the Crimean Germans are descended from the Crimean Goths. The Crimean Gothic language, related to the standard German language was spoken in Crimea until the WW2.
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May 14, 2014, 09:59:37 PM
Does not bother me at all, not interested at all
legendary
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May 14, 2014, 01:46:48 PM
Breaking! US Planned to Turn Crimea into Military Base Against Russia

http://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2014/04/24/breaking-us-planned-to-turn-crimea-into-military-base-against-russia/

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The information coming to the surface now shows that if Crimea stayed as part of Ukraine, it would have become a huge NATO/US military base. I seriously doubt that the people of the Crimea would have stood for that, but if such a thing did happen, it would have meant WWIII as Russia would never allow it. From this perspective it’s especially clear why NATO, USA and EU were so shocked that Russia decisively accepted Crimea back. They already considered it theirs.

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The goal of all these plans was to turn Ukraine into a geopolitical black hole – a massive weapon against Russia on its borders. The diabolical nature of the plan was to pit against each other two very close, brotherly peoples, essentially to pit against each other two parts of a single culture; have them fight against their own interests and in the interests of the US. Hitler once said that only when they succeeded in making Russians living in Ukraine believe they were not Russian, would they win. US/EU almost succeeded in making it happen, but not quite.

EU/US have gone a slightly different route. I see quite a lot of comments on Ukrainian sites, reiterating that Ukrainians are Slavic, while Russians are not. Also, note this year's EuroVision song from Poland "We are Slavic". Yes, they are. But I wonder if there was an alternative agenda there...
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