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Quote from: Xester on May 24, 2017, 12:11:25 AM

https://www.deepdotweb.com/2016/01/23/bitcoin-playing-an-increased-role-in-crime-europol-says/

Would you believe that the existence of bitcoin has increased the number of criminality in some countries in the world. This is the issue that was being thrown by the EuroPol and the UK Metropolitan Police. According to them bitcoin has played a huge role on the increasing criminality in their area. They added that a huge number of cybercriminals were using bitcoins in their activities.

This just shows that as bitcoin develops both advantages and disadvantages will tag along.

But bitcoin give us a lot of advantage of using it. It's also help the online business to grow faster. Bitcoin used for cybercriminals or not it is depend on the people.

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Without bitcoin then criminal already exists, don't blame the bitcoin because trade with bitcoin for illegal purposes of. I think it depends of the user's motives because without bitcoin criminal will always exist.

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Quote from: RodeoX on June 07, 2017, 12:47:08 PM

These comparisons always turn out to be apples to oranges. Crime is changing and bitcoin is part of that, but so is facebook, so is twitter, so is online banking. That is no reason to blame bitcoin and think the future must be stopped.
In the late 1930 the first powerful cars hit the roads in America and spawned a huge crime wave. Local police had no response to this technological advance. One could rob a bank, then race to the state or even county line and be untouchable. Some people called for a ban on cars. But of course eventually sane minds won out.

I never heard of that, it is very interesting, and to be honest it is nothing new, people have tried to ban technology they don’t understand or that they think is harmful for them, when Benz designed his motorcar it is reported it was considered a thing of the devil to have a car not powered by horses.

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Quote from: freeyourmind on June 07, 2017, 03:28:04 PM

Quote from: batang_bitcoin on June 07, 2017, 01:48:52 PM

Why they are only looking at the possibility of bitcoin being used for criminality or any related violence funding? Criminality acts are even existing bitcoin is not yet created. And they are only taking advantage bitcoin for it's anonymity so they found a way for supporting their criminality.

What do you mean "only" for bitcoin and criminal activity?

It is seen as a whole bunch of things, like a way of transferring money, making payments for purchases, store of value, investment, etc.

It's meant to provide an alternative to the traditional banking system, so if it's used for criminal activity, know that the criminal activity that has utilized Bitcoin is partly responsible for the increase in demand and price.

Read the OP and you will understand why I said "only". Let's say they are one of the reason to make the demand higher, but if they are using bitcoin for such filthy crimes, I'm not going to consider that as helpful to the economy. This is the disadvantage of bitcoin and almost everything has disadvantage when money is involved.

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Quote from: batang_bitcoin on June 07, 2017, 01:48:52 PM

Why they are only looking at the possibility of bitcoin being used for criminality or any related violence funding? Criminality acts are even existing bitcoin is not yet created. And they are only taking advantage bitcoin for it's anonymity so they found a way for supporting their criminality.

What do you mean "only" for bitcoin and criminal activity?

It is seen as a whole bunch of things, like a way of transferring money, making payments for purchases, store of value, investment, etc.

It's meant to provide an alternative to the traditional banking system, so if it's used for criminal activity, know that the criminal activity that has utilized Bitcoin is partly responsible for the increase in demand and price.

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Why they are only looking at the possibility of bitcoin being used for criminality or any related violence funding? Criminality acts are even existing bitcoin is not yet created. And they are only taking advantage bitcoin for it's anonymity so they found a way for supporting their criminality.

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There needs to be strict supervision to protect the bitcoin from crime, so the existence of a crime that uses bitcoin can result in the weakening of bitcoin.

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Quote from: coinplus on June 04, 2017, 03:34:40 PM

Quote from: zedsacs on June 03, 2017, 12:26:33 AM

Not all of the news out there are inclined with Bitcoin.
How can bitcoin be a cause of a crime, I mean yea it's possible but not that real. We all know that bitcoin can be use in any other stuffs out there, but I don't think that many people out there know what bitcoin is. I mean, if you are just sa moron criminal, it's almost impossible to you to earn bitcoin, ofcourse you will choose to make crime rather than earning bitcoin and we all know that bitcoin is hard to earn.

I guess we are listening to such type of comments because of the anonymity of the Bitcoin. People may consider the Bitcoin as a medium for covering the illegal activities because they may think that before the bitcoin there was no crime and criminals. I really don’t understand this concept of the people. We can see that most of the drug cartel agencies deal in the Dollars for the exchange of the services and goods they provide you illegal.

Bitcoin anonymity does not relate to criminality nor this feature was develop to promote crime. I think it is time to realize that if bitcoin issued in wrong sense, then it the the user to be blame for and not bitcoin.

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These comparisons always turn out to be apples to oranges. Crime is changing and bitcoin is part of that, but so is facebook, so is twitter, so is online banking. That is no reason to blame bitcoin and think the future must be stopped.
In the late 1930 the first powerful cars hit the roads in America and spawned a huge crime wave. Local police had no response to this technological advance. One could rob a bank, then race to the state or even county line and be untouchable. Some people called for a ban on cars. But of course eventually sane minds won out.

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Quote from: Xester on May 24, 2017, 12:11:25 AM

https://www.deepdotweb.com/2016/01/23/bitcoin-playing-an-increased-role-in-crime-europol-says/

Would you believe that the existence of bitcoin has increased the number of criminality in some countries in the world. This is the issue that was being thrown by the EuroPol and the UK Metropolitan Police. According to them bitcoin has played a huge role on the increasing criminality in their area. They added that a huge number of cybercriminals were using bitcoins in their activities.

This just shows that as bitcoin develops both advantages and disadvantages will tag along.

Would you believe that most criminals breathe oxygen? This just goes to show that law abidng people use bitcoins, but criminals do also.Oxygen is a double edged sword, I guess. Maybe everyone's air intake should be regulated and monitored.

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Quote from: eann014 on June 01, 2017, 09:37:29 PM

There are a lot of criminals out there and scamming online in social Medias before we can have bitcoin. There are a lot of criminals out there in this world that they will not choose who will go to be their victims. Even if the person is not rich they will still scam people. So I don't think that you give criminals an option to think that they can use bitcoin. Or should I say how did you say that? Do you know someone that is criminal because of bitcoin?

I think what OP's trying to say is those people who are using bitcoin in an illegal way, like buying illegal drugs, and firearms online---in the deep web. But the scammers can't be called as a criminal, the right term for them is "useless" people, "lazy" people, because that is the only way they know on how to earn money by scamming people, especially the newbie in the crypto world.

The scammers are criminals there is no way around that, they are deceiving people with false promises and then keeping the money and not giving the product or service they offered at the beginning, that is a way of stealing, nothing more and nothing else.

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Quote from: Kevin77 on June 06, 2017, 12:58:47 PM

Quote from: daringdiscovered on June 02, 2017, 02:06:30 AM

Quote from: eann014 on June 01, 2017, 09:37:29 PM

There are a lot of criminals out there and scamming online in social Medias before we can have bitcoin. There are a lot of criminals out there in this world that they will not choose who will go to be their victims. Even if the person is not rich they will still scam people. So I don't think that you give criminals an option to think that they can use bitcoin. Or should I say how did you say that? Do you know someone that is criminal because of bitcoin?

I think what OP's trying to say is those people who are using bitcoin in an illegal way, like buying illegal drugs, and firearms online---in the deep web. But the scammers can't be called as a criminal, the right term for them is "useless" people, "lazy" people, because that is the only way they know on how to earn money by scamming people, especially the newbie in the crypto world.

Well I don’t agree with the point that the scammers can’t be termed as a criminal. It seems to me like you have a soft corner for the scammers otherwise why someone will pass such remarks. Let me define the word crime for you. Any kind of exploitation to others emotionally, physically or in monitory terms is a crime.

Now according to this definition if a person is lazy or active but if he has harmed and exploited someone he shall be considered as a criminal and should be charged for the crime. If scammers are not criminals then I would say the real life robbers should also not be termed as criminals.

I agree.
They have made their choices and of course they knew what they are doing specially the criminals who are using the internet.
If they are not aware of it then how they did end up having knowledge with the internet.
This scams are planned. They have to do list and step by step programs on how it will be done with almost perfection.

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Quote from: daringdiscovered on June 02, 2017, 02:06:30 AM

Quote from: eann014 on June 01, 2017, 09:37:29 PM

There are a lot of criminals out there and scamming online in social Medias before we can have bitcoin. There are a lot of criminals out there in this world that they will not choose who will go to be their victims. Even if the person is not rich they will still scam people. So I don't think that you give criminals an option to think that they can use bitcoin. Or should I say how did you say that? Do you know someone that is criminal because of bitcoin?

I think what OP's trying to say is those people who are using bitcoin in an illegal way, like buying illegal drugs, and firearms online---in the deep web. But the scammers can't be called as a criminal, the right term for them is "useless" people, "lazy" people, because that is the only way they know on how to earn money by scamming people, especially the newbie in the crypto world.

Well I don’t agree with the point that the scammers can’t be termed as a criminal. It seems to me like you have a soft corner for the scammers otherwise why someone will pass such remarks. Let me define the word crime for you. Any kind of exploitation to others emotionally, physically or in monitory terms is a crime.

Now according to this definition if a person is lazy or active but if he has harmed and exploited someone he shall be considered as a criminal and should be charged for the crime. If scammers are not criminals then I would say the real life robbers should also not be termed as criminals.

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Quote from: Xester on May 24, 2017, 12:11:25 AM

https://www.deepdotweb.com/2016/01/23/bitcoin-playing-an-increased-role-in-crime-europol-says/

Would you believe that the existence of bitcoin has increased the number of criminality in some countries in the world. This is the issue that was being thrown by the EuroPol and the UK Metropolitan Police. According to them bitcoin has played a huge role on the increasing criminality in their area. They added that a huge number of cybercriminals were using bitcoins in their activities.

This just shows that as bitcoin develops both advantages and disadvantages will tag along.

Criminality has always been our way of life even before the time of civilization up till now. As at now even if crimes are being committed with cash and even any currency should come out tomorrow, it will still be exploited for crimes purposes by those who are criminal inclined. It is now the duty of government to play their role in other to forestall such moves so blaming crimes on bitcoin is actually a failure on their own part without any form of dilution.

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There are a lot of of efforts to combine the two terms with eachother. Criminality and bitcoin.

Like with many other things that banks does not have any money.

But outside of deliberate smear campaign, the criminals can use bitcoin for malicious purposes, but not as nearly as much as they use cash.

There can be reluctance to use bitcoin by criminals, because they might think they do not know something about it. They do not say so about the cash.

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Bitcoin is a handy tool for money laundering
Bitcoin works in a way that is conducive to crime
This cannot be denied

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A lot have associated bitcoin as an effective tool to be used by the people who have bad motives or intention to commit some crime and get away with it easily which is in fact leaving behind the main idea in the context. When we say criminals, any way and anything present in front of them can be used to execute a crime and as the world enter the age of technology then they would surely use it that’s why it is the duty of the government to create a countermeasure with it and banning bitcoin is not the best choice.

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Basing on how the Bitcoin works, it definitely can be advantageous to people who are doing criminal deeds. You can literally go and buy bitcoin to buy drugs or something illegal, and that opens the way with that. That's a bad thing, and that's what faces bitcoin now, and that makes people think that bitcoin is a bad thing.

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Quote from: Caelanpelley on May 24, 2017, 04:42:25 AM

Quote from: Xester on May 24, 2017, 12:11:25 AM

https://www.deepdotweb.com/2016/01/23/bitcoin-playing-an-increased-role-in-crime-europol-says/

Would you believe that the existence of bitcoin has increased the number of criminality in some countries in the world. This is the issue that was being thrown by the EuroPol and the UK Metropolitan Police. According to them bitcoin has played a huge role on the increasing criminality in their area. They added that a huge number of cybercriminals were using bitcoins in their activities.

This just shows that as bitcoin develops both advantages and disadvantages will tag along.

All things have a good side and a bad side always exist in parallel with each other, bitcoin too.Once bitcoin value is increasing and economic potential is growing, then the criminal network is also increasingly sophisticated and complex. It's like a natural law

indeed not leave if any things that are developing and developed world surely there'll be no bad acts like a bitcoin is now being increased in value that will affect the economic growth of the pontesi so that the criminal networks are also increasingly sophisticated and complete some way

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Quote from: Sniper44 on May 24, 2017, 12:17:59 AM

i doubt it.
criminal activities were happening even before bitcoin. for example the ransomware that everyone is talking about these days have been around a very long time before bitcoin was created!

and besides since bitcoin doesn't offer real anonymity it can not really help the criminals as much as things like hard cash helps them.

Criminality is not connected to bitcoin. It exist even bitcoin is not found. And criminals cannot used bitcoin to their plan because only few people accept bitcoin as a payment.

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