Topic: Crisis like 1930 it's impossible now we are use to with good life - page 2. (Read 330 times)

The economy won't adjust to your lifestyle.

Just cause we're living in more advanced times doesn't necessarily mean we're in the clear in stuff like these. The fact that we're even talking about the possibility and the apparent proximity of an economic collapse is testament enough that we're aware it would happen some time in the future, it's just a matter of how. Sure it could be averted by employing more humane approaches to this economic struggle, but we're living in a dog eat dog world and the ones at the upper echelon would much rather see the world burn than be part of the solution in exchange for their vast riches. That's just the reality of things.

OP, because you can afford a luxury lifestyle in this economic crisis, that is not the same with others. Many can't afford to live or have such a lifestyle in life.

OP before I questioned your luxury lifestyle as you put it. Have you for once gone far from home to another city to see how people are fairing in this global economic crisis where the price of foodstuff is on the increase? If you have, you won't come out openly to say all this. Just because you don't care to know, doesn't mean that the whole of Western countries would do the same. Try and live a normal life rather than bragging that everything is working fine for you. While others that things are not working for them should hate on themselves for that, for not being opportune to live and have a luxurious lifestyle like yours.

OP pray in your next life(if there'll be one) that you will still be as lucky as you are in this present life. If not, you will know that not all fingers are equals

It is precisely that attitude that got us on this mess to begin with, you are just spouting the ‘we are too big to fail’ argument, and nothing is too big to fail, just because you cannot imagine the economy going down and taking everyone with it does not mean that it cannot happen, in fact it has happened to all countries at some point, politicians in power thought themselves to be above basic economic principles and they discovered too late the only reason they could ignore them was because the country was too rich, but once that wealth is squandered then they will have to suffer like everyone else.

I think that it could be possible that OP does not have much experience with the middle class (or lower), judging from his way of writing. There do exist a small percentage of people who have never had to go through the experience of not being in the top class, and to them, they cannot imagine life any other way.

But I think we might perhaps be misunderstanding OP's meaning. Perhaps he means that with the passage of time, and the progress of technology, we now have access to things that were considered luxuries before and that each time we, humanity, progresses with technology, our lives become easier and we can now afford things that people in the past could not afford?

In such a case I would agree. No more dark-ages dentistry or using blood leeches as "medicine".  We won't have to revisit those days.

The only good life this generation is having is in technological advancement beneath that there's nothing enjoyable in this present dispensation we live in.

The environment is polluted more then ever, we can't be proud of breathing fresh air. Insecurity is at the highest spike to both the rich and poor.

Inflation and hunger are like twin siblings striking the two third of the world population, every policies falling apart with living standard growing worse daily.

I think the peace and serene environment with nature closer to us as it were centuries ago those are the best life of luxury, and not in a Lamborghini or mansion as people see today as criteria to good life.

I get to understand the point of what you're saying. We're living in the modern day so basically life is truly better than of 30's.

With vast opportunity and with the help of modern technology, anyone can do the impossible before like working for someone who's from offshore and just stay at home and work all day long sitting in front of his computer in his bed room.

But you know what's the problem these days aside from economic status of each individual? The stress has gotten bigger than before. And that's like a stress reliever when someone eat out and treat themselves to release the stress hormones.

Although it's not that as luxury as what you're saying, typical living is still enough for someone but can't afford a luxurious life. We tend to be more grateful these days as we've gone through a lot.

This is not the first time users have been directed to use their local boards based on their incoherent Use of English. Though Standard English does not necessarily needed in the forum if the message is clear but whereby the message is not well communicated to the audience and which might caused hearing impaired. Though why The Sceptical Chymist said is not too bad because if the Op post in his local board and master the forum then he can come to the general boards to make comments.

If you picked the breaks (the pieces) and join together, you will understand what the op is saying. And what the op is saying is possible. The matter what people live in a luxurious life economic deficiencies will always come. Politicians who were once living in a flamboyant lifestyle can become poor in the society.

That what you describe is a very extreme scenario, people back in the day already had weapons and there were not some much looting or killings.

The looting today, specially in some cities in the United States is mostly because employees are trained not to interrupt or engage themselves with the criminals, because the merchandise or business maybe under ensurance and it is not worth the risk a physical confrontation against criminals just for some merchadise, one's life is more important. Criminals are aware of those policies and they take advantage of it to carry those speedy lootings, knowing they won't get stopped immediately.

I am more optimisticin the future, though. If a economical recession was going to happen people won't push it into an apocalyptic scenario.

I don't think that economic crisis cannot effect the people and as you are saying that almost everyone lives a luxury life so it cannot be possible. In our country there are large number of people who cannot afford to eat three times a day and having a car or other luxurious material is impossible to possess by them.

Various classes of people are present some are wealthy enough that they will not be effected by any economic crisis but those who don't have much money will surely be effected by crisis. In our country inflation is high and the rate of each and everything is so higher that many people start begging just for eating so if just eating become so hard then how they will maintain other necessitates of life?

In country every type of individuals are present but we are unaware of poor people because we have everything what we wants and we are eating well in this situations but if we go out from our homes then we will realize the actual thing.

Haha, every day I find funnier things on this forum.

 

Shortmaster, I like your argument, as we are used to the good life, things can't go to shit, no?

How do you think people lived in the roaring twenties? The only difference is that there was less technology but in general in times like that people lived very well.

How did people live in 2006?

Your argument doesn't go very far but I find it amusing.

English is not my native tongue either but I do get what he means somehow. But The Sceptical Chymist has a point.

I have not been in the 1930s but have read many times what was going on during that time. Sadly if we are to go experience the crisis of that time, we may really see people killing each other on the streets for food. Today, we see a lot of looting already which is kind of normalized while the cops couldn't respond quickly. 

The prices of all the stuff today have almost doubled and this could get worse if the FED still doesn't see what breaks. Maybe they need to see a state/people revolting already before they return to QE.

This may be the first time I have seen someone directing another member of the forum not to post in the main English sections due to their bad English, something I had not expected to see, to be honest, keeping in mind of flexible people tend to be around here when comes to mispells and grammar errors.

I personally u derstand what OP is trying to say, he says that it would be impossible for the West to go through another big recession, just because we have gotten used to s different standard of life. To me it does not make sense, perhaps He is in such adventagious possion in his society/country that in his eyes the idea of crisis and bad times is impossible.

In contemplating this notion, I find it difficult to concur, as my contentment and gratitude cannot be attained when I find myself incapable of fulfilling the fundamental necessities of both my kin and myself. If we are still poor, we must always have the desire and urge to find a way out of poverty. If we maintain an attitude of gratitude and unwavering happiness even amidst poverty, it shall augment our contentment, fostering acceptance of our circumstances instead of relentlessly seeking an escape from it. Today's society is very pragmatic and we cannot deceive ourselves that without money there will be another way for us to be happy.

While the global community has learned lot of lessons from previous economic crisis including the great depression of 1930. As a result various institution including FED and many others, have been established to proactively implementing measures aimed at averting future economic meltdowns. Nevertheless, our current reliance on high standard of living, which requires substantial energy and petroleum products consumption to sustain it. Consequently the potential for fresh economic crisis can not be completely dismissed.

What are you talking about.....! you talk about the monetary crisis that was felt and experienced throughout the world from 1929 to 1939, it will not happen again, you think that we are already living in luxury, on the internet, electricity, tall buildings and so on, have you really seen and understood what is happening right now around the world, you know drought is already haunting the world right now.

You know what caused the monetary crisis and the decline in the world economy at that time, which caused the paralysis of all economic sectors throughout the world and had a negative impact on society throughout the world, Don't say it can't happen, you have to look at the current world conditions.

The crisis that occurred in the 1930s could happen in the future, if there are massive layoffs throughout the world carried out by companies due to debt, soaring prices of goods, running out of raw materials, banks are jammed, the agricultural sector is destroyed due to drought and water supply to hydropower plants is hampered due to drought, remember if debt occurs in society as a whole where the economic community is struggling like it is today, Debts are piling up for society, wait for something like what happened in the 30s to happen again.

The luxury, internet, technology and so on that you see today are not a bulwark against economic paralysis and a monetary crisis in the future.

OP, you might find a local board more suitable for you to write in, because your English is too incoherent for you to continue posting in the main English sections.  Rarely do I say that these days, but in your case I think it's advice you need to hear.

I don't know what you're trying to say, and I'm pretty sure you don't have a good grasp of how bad it was back in the 1930s during the Great Depression (nor do I for that matter, but I'm also guessing you're younger than I am).  This, for instance, is just a bloated load of nonsense:


Consider what your native tongue is and see if there's a section dedicated to that language--and then go there at least until you learn how to write in English such that you can make yourself understood.  K?

Am not saying you're wrong to be thankful for everyday because our current position might be the dream of other people we don't know.

But I imagine I were a poor or having no money, I don't think I can be thankful because I will not able to buy food, I can't study due to limitation, I don't have capital to start a business, and anything that I can't except I need to work very hard to get minimum amount of money.

Most of the time, poor people can't escape from poor since it's a structural poverty.

When it comes to the crisis in each country that is facing it, I think that the rich, or billionaires, are not affected much by such things compared to people who are still in the lower middle class. They live a luxurious life and have not experienced the hardships of life.

But no matter how hard or rich each person's life is, we should be happy and thankful for every day that God gives us, because there is nothing happier than a person who knows how to appreciate every waking day of their life, whether they are poor or have no money.

I live in the west so Luxury is normal thing for me.
Sure everything comes with the price but world is full lets sacrafice some places the west can send their inflation into other countries or many other ways to keep wealth.
People in the west dont really care what's tje life anywhere becouse some places are far from us.
But what we want is to have good life on west countries always for Our kids and for us

I like to have my pizza at my Door whenever i want 24/7

Current life is definitely far better, but most of people still can't afford to buy luxury car, regularly buying branded clothes or owning a house. But at least they can survive and have a healthy life.

Maybe it's really looks impossible we will have a crisis like 1930, but don't forget now we're need to compete against robot or AI that could take over some jobs. In the past, most of people suffered from economy crisis, now it seems we will suffer mental health crisis due to high pressure job.