Topic: |>> cryptnroll.com <<| Bitcoin JACKPOT game - page 2. (Read 659 times)

This is our first cryptocurrency game, we are very open for listening to our users, I have explained extensively on why the wallet should not stay empty, we need to identify from who we received the transaction

Our experience was on other projects, not cryptocurrency.

I'm not familiar with such service but do you think that such service will give exactly the same words/sentences for different sites/projects?
I also doubt if this site uses such service, they claim to be a 15 years experienced group of people in this field so I have high doubt that experienced people will use such service as they should be able to create it themselves easily.

That statement coming from Op is clearly trying to catch someone's attention, and I don't think this can be considered legit. Much better if we seek our luck to those famous sites which comes after our welfare and not for their own benefit. Hopefully there's a clear definition of their service, so everybody won't think it as a mess because we need to fully acquire the truth behind speculations.

I welcome you to join our channel! 

I think most of your questions would be answered here (keep them coming):

Q: Empty wallet questions
A: I didn't think that this would cause so much misunderstandings, we will definitely include the answer in our FAQ. The fact is that when we talk about the Bitcoin blockchain, we cannot know the" from address "according to this theory - https: / /en.bitcoin.it/wiki/From_address.
We believe that one of the methods with the greatest certainty is to determine the winner's wallet address from the "out" transaction block for the "change" transaction
For example, we can consider one of the transactions of our participants - https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/854acdd3a778fc3ac4ca7b541dbbbdaaa6d995e6d7ea10ab7c4496dc2a564f93
where one of the recipients is our wallet - 1NDkLCpf15cicTXChHZfo2YS12otkdC5NZ
In this case, we can conclude that the second address from the out block is the participant's wallet.
You may question also: "but why are you not taking the wallet address from the in block"? - there are 2 main reasons for this:
1. Some cli wallets, after the transaction, create a new wallet for change, and access to the old one may be lost
2. In some transactions there are several wallets from the block (for example, here https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/257ce19d4da2c8b8c7f3118344e380d8abb4cf801988539d1ae80febd436f37d), and since we have no “connection” with the participant, we cannot determine to which one the winnings should be sent.
This solution is necessary in order to lower the entry threshold for participants and maintain anonymity, since we have no registrations and no connection with the participant, except for his transaction.

Q: I do know that you mentioned in your "FAQ" page about using random.org until you've developed your own tool but how can we be sure that you'll be using them for choosing the winners?
A: Regarding random.org
Thank you for your question, we have just launched this project with minimal investment and are testing the interest to this service.
We are indeed using the random.org platform through the official open api to select the winner. We still didn’t implement a tool for transparency, we wanted to get your feedback faster.
In short, we use the generateSignedIntegers method (more details in the documentation https://api.random.org/json-rpc/2/signed), and you can verify the authenticity through the verifySignature method. More detailed instructions will be published later, after testing the hypothesis about the feasibility of this method.
Also, we will be grateful if the community will advise us for the best way to choose a winner.

Q: The Privacy policy and Terms and condition plagiarized
A: They are not plagiarized, I used a website to generate them, they are pretty basic Terms of use and Privacy policy.

Q: The website looks like a cheap website?
A: I don’t understand your disrespect, a lot of time and money was invested into this website and we just launched, if you give criticism at least make it constructive.

Q: You should have provided multiple payment methods like LTC, DOGE, XRP etc in order to address these issues.
A: That's right, we fully understand this. But the point is that, as described in my post:" ... my first BTC game project "- we do not have answers to many questions, so we want to develop it step by step by listening to the opinion of the community in accordance with the "Lean software development" methodology (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lean_software_development)
We want to build a base foundation on which new functionality will be added in the future

they are new thats why they only have 3 members so far  but in the game your going to risk 549.69 usd ( 0.01 btc ) to win  38.48 usd ( 0.000757 btc )  .

 your chances are high but you once said that the site may not be a provably fair but even if it was provably fair there is still a chance that you could loose after having that calculated chance  but im not stopping you ,  just a friendly warning goodluck  .

Hi everyone,

I will answer all your questions today, I am new to the forum, I didn't notice the thread was moved.
I am not here to deceive anyone, on the contrary, more games are planned, we want to build a solid community with your help.

I sincerely apologize for the delay, I am preparing all the answers.

Does not mean to defend them (Crypt&Roll) I just have a silly question regarding this matter, what do you think if both of the sites are using "privacy policy generator" to write their policy?

Since I know that kind of service are exist on internet moreover their policy looks quite simple

I don't think that it'll get resolve in the first place if OP's main agenda is to deceive other people from getting robbed. Moreover, I really do not see an honest service being offered here for the masses, its like randomly promoting a fishy website who doesn't care about other people's welfare nor their image in the community.

That can make people greedy and not think about the risk because they will have the money to win someday. But if they remember that to win the jackpot, it will need more funds than they can not expect, and they do not know how much money they should spend before they can hit the jackpot. So if you want to try your luck, you better know how much money you will use and not forget to stop.

It looks like the OP has been caught with plagiarism, first red flag.

And then didn't bother to go back and answer all the queries, not to embarrassed them but to make it clear to us gamblers, second red flag.

So I will say that we shouldn't stay away from this site for now, until everything has been resolved.

Didn't notice this earlier. Also, op himself is inactive and is clearly not interested in resolving our queries. This just proves that this site is shady in many aspects and should be avoided since there are better legit alternatives out there.

Scams are promoted now and then in literally every section of this forum(Not just the gambling board).

15 years of plagiarizing should have taught them that they should change some things from what they are copying. I don't think that the year is a real thing, they just want to assure the players that they do not have anything to worry because they have experience. Man, I never frequent this board because I jump right in Gambling Discussion, but there are some scams that are being promoted here.

15 years of experience in Plagiarizing ... 

Imagine they have that long experience but They need to Copycat their TOC?

and not even Bother editing a single Word from it.

Not to brag but I'd rather stay away from sites like this, there are legitimate sites like this and has more reputation why not risk your money. Best if they just changed that rule but I still doubt if this game will be popular, good for OP with the publicity though.

The biggest problem is not about the fee but about the fairness of the game. Jackpot/lottery game using random.org? Oh come on, it is 2021 already and no one will be risking money for such lottery. Even if the site choose to use something like a live stream for the drawing, it will be something debatable about the fairness. The site itself looks like a cheap website,  it does not look like a gambling site which is created by an experienced people as what they claim:



Really 15 years experience but having a site like this?

Here's my honest feedback.

PLAGIARIZED TERMS AND CONDITION

ORIGINAL

---

PS. LOL I think the whole terms and condition is just a copycat of other website's T&C.

Jackpot sites like yours don't usually attract gamblers unless they provide something unique and creative which I haven't noticed in your site sadly.

The biggest problem with your site in my opinion is the TX times and fees associated with BTC currently along with the commission that you take from every win(Failed to mention in the ANN and site). What exactly is your commission percentage op?

You should have provided multiple payment methods like LTC, DOGE, XRP etc in order to address these issues.

This one actually boggles my mind too because ever since on my gambling experience for several years on this market, this is the only time i do see such rule for you not to empty your wallet.

Talking sensively that theres no really connection if the wallet you have used on sending out your bets does or doesnt have balance left when you do make out bets because not all
would really be using up their main wallet or simply they do only have that amount left on the said wallet which means you dont have any options.

Wallet addresses or any platforms doesnt really connect wallets for it to have some connected functions.How does the platform do detect out that it doesnt have balance left on the wallet used?
In what purpose on having such rule? I dont really get it.