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Quote from: len01 on April 15, 2023, 10:59:59 AM

successful or not it depends on the wishes of your friend. if you take your friend to a psychologist but he has no intention of getting better, I think it will be in vain.
because psychologists will only help your friend to be even more enthusiastic to be even better to avoid gambling. and I think a strong push that can make your friend change for the better is usually the closest person he loves, like his wife or girlfriend.

That's right, friend, success in self-change against addiction can only happen if there is intention and effort that is done by himself because no matter how hard the efforts are made by others, if an addict does not have the intention and willingness to change it, it will only be in vain. drain.
The encouragement of family and loved ones can also be a factor in the success of this change because a person can change his mindset and behavior when there is encouragement from people around him who love him.
But unfortunately, only a few people or families want to care about someone who has become a gambling addict.

just need to try. as long as OP really wants to help his friend he should give any effort for the sake of his friend's recovery. OP can also approach gambling addict families so that there is encouragement from the family who can provide positive energy to change and stay away from gambling.
but somehow the OP's efforts are really helping his friend or just choosing to be silent.

In dealing with cases like this, the approach to the family is very important, moreover the encouragement from the family to be able to provide encouragement and understanding to change is the most important thing to be able to change someone from their bad habits, including gambling addicts.
But if I understand cases of gambling addiction, it is indeed very difficult to cure and only certain people can completely recover from gambling addiction.
I myself am not sure that a friend of OP can recover completely, maybe he can stop gambling for a while but there is still a possibility that in the future he will return to gambling again.

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İt was not your fault, it is just friend's responsibility to stop or continue online gambling. If he is going crazy with b2b deposits and can't stop himself then as friend you are supposed to tell him stop being addict before he loses everything. Explain addiction in gambling and invite him to take rehabilitation since it looks like best option atm. Once you don't offer your help it is your fault after he loses everything but you have to warn him to stop while he can. Gambling emotionally and not being responsible gambler will have some consequences that can lead to destroyed life standarts that you never want friends face such pity situation.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on April 14, 2023, 12:22:57 PM

Well, I'm not sure if I have the answer to your question. Instead, take a persuasive approach. the rest, you can take it to the experts. next time, if you want to provide knowledge or as you tell in this thread. You also have to provide insight into the bad effects, especially if your friend has no self-control.

I will try to take him to a psychologist and give him more understanding in the hope that some time in the future he will be able to reduce his gambling addiction a little and be able to stop gambling in the future.
I don't know if this method works or not but I will try my best to get my friend's normal life back.
All this time guilt has plagued my mind and I have tried hard to give some of my cares and responsibilities as a friend.

Thank you friends for giving some delivery and I hope what I hope for can actually be achieved.

successful or not it depends on the wishes of your friend. if you take your friend to a psychologist but he has no intention of getting better, I think it will be in vain.
because psychologists will only help your friend to be even more enthusiastic to be even better to avoid gambling. and I think a strong push that can make your friend change for the better is usually the closest person he loves, like his wife or girlfriend.

I've taken him to a psychologist and haven't seen any results yet, but he's starting to have an approach with his family again so he doesn't hold his cell phone too often to play or gamble.
For now he has also made an agreement with his wife that all the finances that are responsible for holding and managing are his wife.
Maybe this could be a good start if he really wants to change and recover from gambling addiction as he has said.
This is where I started to be a little calmer and happier because of his intention to change after returning home from the psychologist, I don't know what the psychologist did but he already had a good start.

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Quote from: Helena Yu on April 16, 2023, 03:36:05 AM

I think I have a different opinion in his matter, I'd rather to stay away and cut all the relation with my friends if he's an addict.

If my friend doesn't hear and want to change after I gave an advice, it's mean they're don't have any intention to change and they will ruin my life in the future. Remember, your journey is depends on your close friend, do you want to become an addict or always convince them to stop gambling? it will takes a lot time and money, I don't want to wasting my time.

You can do that with your friends but not for them because they may try to approach you because they want to stay friends with you.

Everyone has their own decisions and there is no need to depend on close friends because we are responsible for our own lives. If our friends give us their best advice, we should listen to it as an option to decide. And even if we don't follow his advice, we can at least consider it or apply some of it.

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I think I have a different opinion in his matter, I'd rather to stay away and cut all the relation with my friends if he's an addict.

If my friend doesn't hear and want to change after I gave an advice, it's mean they're don't have any intention to change and they will ruin my life in the future. Remember, your journey is depends on your close friend, do you want to become an addict or always convince them to stop gambling? it will takes a lot time and money, I don't want to wasting my time.

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Quote from: tusandii on April 15, 2023, 11:10:45 PM

Quote from: len01 on April 15, 2023, 10:59:59 AM

successful or not it depends on the wishes of your friend. if you take your friend to a psychologist but he has no intention of getting better, I think it will be in vain.
because psychologists will only help your friend to be even more enthusiastic to be even better to avoid gambling. and I think a strong push that can make your friend change for the better is usually the closest person he loves, like his wife or girlfriend.

That's right, friend, success in self-change against addiction can only happen if there is intention and effort that is done by himself because no matter how hard the efforts are made by others, if an addict does not have the intention and willingness to change it, it will only be in vain. drain.
The encouragement of family and loved ones can also be a factor in the success of this change because a person can change his mindset and behavior when there is encouragement from people around him who love him.
But unfortunately, only a few people or families want to care about someone who has become a gambling addict.

just need to try. as long as OP really wants to help his friend he should give any effort for the sake of his friend's recovery. OP can also approach gambling addict families so that there is encouragement from the family who can provide positive energy to change and stay away from gambling.
but somehow the OP's efforts are really helping his friend or just choosing to be silent.

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Quote from: len01 on April 15, 2023, 10:59:59 AM

successful or not it depends on the wishes of your friend. if you take your friend to a psychologist but he has no intention of getting better, I think it will be in vain.
because psychologists will only help your friend to be even more enthusiastic to be even better to avoid gambling. and I think a strong push that can make your friend change for the better is usually the closest person he loves, like his wife or girlfriend.

That's right, friend, success in self-change against addiction can only happen if there is intention and effort that is done by himself because no matter how hard the efforts are made by others, if an addict does not have the intention and willingness to change it, it will only be in vain. drain.
The encouragement of family and loved ones can also be a factor in the success of this change because a person can change his mindset and behavior when there is encouragement from people around him who love him.
But unfortunately, only a few people or families want to care about someone who has become a gambling addict.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on April 15, 2023, 04:12:07 AM

Quote from: rahmad2nd on April 14, 2023, 12:22:57 PM

Well, I'm not sure if I have the answer to your question. Instead, take a persuasive approach. the rest, you can take it to the experts. next time, if you want to provide knowledge or as you tell in this thread. You also have to provide insight into the bad effects, especially if your friend has no self-control.

I will try to take him to a psychologist and give him more understanding in the hope that some time in the future he will be able to reduce his gambling addiction a little and be able to stop gambling in the future.
I don't know if this method works or not but I will try my best to get my friend's normal life back.
All this time guilt has plagued my mind and I have tried hard to give some of my cares and responsibilities as a friend.

Thank you friends for giving some delivery and I hope what I hope for can actually be achieved.

successful or not it depends on the wishes of your friend. if you take your friend to a psychologist but he has no intention of getting better, I think it will be in vain.
because psychologists will only help your friend to be even more enthusiastic to be even better to avoid gambling. and I think a strong push that can make your friend change for the better is usually the closest person he loves, like his wife or girlfriend.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on April 12, 2023, 03:34:57 AM

how should I react to it because he became a crazy gambler because of my invitation.

If you have given some reminders already, the best way to react on this is nothing. Yes, you can't do that much anymore with that guy if he's on that path of loosing himself with gambling.

You are the one who invited him to gamble but didn't you gave him some reminders that he still need to be careful or else worse case scenario might hit him?

If yes, don't need to stress yourself with that but if not then that's really gonna hit your mind that you're feeling that you should be the one to be blamed.

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First off, let me just say that, teaching people how to gamble is not going to be the best thing you could impart them, I suppose they had an intervention with them getting caught and incarcerated for a couple days but you kind of double downed on the problem by teaching them how to gamble without getting caught. Still, I think you've heard of this enough so I'll save the lectures for later.

At this point there's really little to no control we can make that will help sway your friend from stopping to gamble, he found a way to do so without problems and with so much convenience, he succumbed to the pressures, so unless he sees how he's gone so far, there's nothing much you can do. It's all personal discovery from this point onwwards.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on April 12, 2023, 03:34:57 AM

And what concerns me is that one of them actually becomes a gambling addict in a crypto casino. It was a pity that he had lost his senses and forgot about his responsibilities as the head of the family to the point where he was more concerned with money at stake.
From that incident I felt very guilty for inviting him to bet at a crypto casino until he became an addict.

I want to ask for advice and input from members here, what should I do to deal with this friend of mine and how should I react to it because he became a crazy gambler because of my invitation.

Sad to hear that you brought someone in the wrong direction but my take on this situation is that - you don't need to blame yourself as it was not your responsibility anymore. Perhaps, that person is old enough already to know what is right and what is wrong, and indeed he knows what exactly happens to him. Honestly, this person got tempted to win more after winning on the first try. He'll think that he could win more if he increases his bets and very unfortunate that after chasing such a chance, he ended up in addiction.

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Quote from: crwth on April 15, 2023, 06:45:04 AM

That's definitely going to be a problem with his personality, knowing that your friend is an addict and you have enabled him to do it without any consequences. I hope that, as his friend, you would be able to make sure that he is being responsible. If you have his account name or something, let the casino site know that he is a problematic gambler and needs restriction on time spent.

it seems the casino will never care about OP's friend even if he has to be an addict, because that would benefit the casino, after all it's strange to ask the casino to monitor or warn certain usernames to play responsibly because that's not how the casino system works

we know that casinos can get big money from gambling addicts compared to ordinary gamblers who are looking for fun with small bets and wasting time there, sadly OP is not entirely guilty of introducing casinos using crypto but before OP introduced it his friends were used to gambling so it became Gambling addicts are not completely OP's fault because it is the nature of each person that cannot be controlled by other people. i think the OP should just keep giving his friend advice slowly one day he will definitely hear it too.

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That's definitely going to be a problem with his personality, knowing that your friend is an addict and you have enabled him to do it without any consequences. I hope that, as his friend, you would be able to make sure that he is being responsible. If you have his account name or something, let the casino site know that he is a problematic gambler and needs restriction on time spent.

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Quote from: jostorres on April 15, 2023, 05:01:12 AM

OP knows that gambling is illegal in his country but he still insists to encourage his friend to gamble. Why will he be guilty when I think he intends it to happen? Maybe he have a hidden hate with those people and wants them to be in trouble indirectly. Hate to say this but it was also his friends' fault on why they didn't ask some questions or do their research about the status of gambling in their country.

Another mistake is like you said, about getting addicted but this one can be easily be avoided if we have a common sense and if we have a control of our selves. All he can do for now is like you said to help his friend in terms of financial if he is really guilty.

In short you're saying @OP is a bad person Tongue

I think if the country is ban gambling, I think it should be introduced everywhere and they should be know it, like a country which prohibit drug usage even it's used for medical purpose, so I will not really blame @OP here.

Well helping his friend in terms of financial is useless because if his friend is still an addict, I'm sure @OP will go rekt.

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I want to ask for advice and input from members here, what should I do to deal with this friend of mine and how should I react to it because he became a crazy gambler because of my invitation.

Telling him to quit is soft and won't move him from his addiction. Continuous reminders about telling him that he has to look around and that the effects of his addiction on his family are certainly worrying. It's no longer a healthy thing and that's why he needed to think of his activities since it's becoming harmful not just to him but also to his family. This shouldn't be a problem for him if he's moderating it but right now, he needs to moderate it. He can't be in whole stop, this just can't happen from someone who's addicted to gambling, it needs some process and moderation because a gradual process needs to happen.

Unless he feels something is wrong with him and he immediately asks @OP for help, @OP has to help him out of his gambling problem.
But we know that most gamblers will not realize they have a gambling addiction but refuse to tell the truth.
Maybe what @OP can do is tell his friend to reduce the amount of time and money he spends on gambling so he can slowly overcome his gambling addiction problem.
His friend must learn to control himself when gambling and limit the money for gambling.
Maybe it's hard for his friend but worth it because it will help him escape his gambling addiction.

An addicted gambler won't feel that there's something wrong and I feel the sense of urgency of what OP has stated because he feels guilty of what happened to his friend and he's got the influence before it happens.
The continuous conversation to his friend will keep him reminded that there's an actual wrong thing that's happening to him because he can't notice it. At least with that reminder, OP will feel that he's able to fill the guilt that he's feeling of what turned his friend right now.

Maybe @OP needs to help his friend get out of gambling and can get his friend to do something else that has nothing to do with gambling, numbers or chance.
It is important to reject thoughts of gambling and try to help a friend who is addicted to gambling.
But it is true what you say that a gambler will not feel addicted to gambling and feel that he can still anticipate it.
Only we, the people who see his activities, can judge him and immediately help him get out of gambling before it's too late.

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Quote from: ufaiz50 on April 13, 2023, 05:51:09 AM

I understand your feeling of guilt as you are the one who introduced them to the game and now you are seeing destroy themselves and his surrounding. Actually it is really a risk to invite someone in gambling as there's really a high chance that the user will get addicted to it and I think that was one of the thing you have missed, maybe you could encourage your friend to seek a therapy and you're going to pay for it to clear your guilt but if he refused then I think it is not your problem anymore.

OP knows that gambling is illegal in his country but he still insists to encourage his friend to gamble. Why will he be guilty when I think he intends it to happen? Maybe he have a hidden hate with those people and wants them to be in trouble indirectly. Hate to say this but it was also his friends' fault on why they didn't ask some questions or do their research about the status of gambling in their country.

Another mistake is like you said, about getting addicted but this one can be easily be avoided if we have a common sense and if we have a control of our selves. All he can do for now is like you said to help his friend in terms of financial if he is really guilty.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on April 14, 2023, 12:22:57 PM

Well, I'm not sure if I have the answer to your question. Instead, take a persuasive approach. the rest, you can take it to the experts. next time, if you want to provide knowledge or as you tell in this thread. You also have to provide insight into the bad effects, especially if your friend has no self-control.

I will try to take him to a psychologist and give him more understanding in the hope that some time in the future he will be able to reduce his gambling addiction a little and be able to stop gambling in the future.
I don't know if this method works or not but I will try my best to get my friend's normal life back.
All this time guilt has plagued my mind and I have tried hard to give some of my cares and responsibilities as a friend.

Thank you friends for giving some delivery and I hope what I hope for can actually be achieved.

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Quote from: Cling18 on April 13, 2023, 10:22:07 AM

Since they have experienced being jailed, they should have taken a lesson from it. It is important that we'll know the gambling regulations in each country so we will not experience trouble. Regarding his gambling addiction, it is not your responsibility anymore but as a friend, you must still put an effort to convince him to know his limitations. Even if he doesn't follow your advice, at least you have done your part to remind him of the risks.

That's probably the most that he can do at this point, considering his friend has already become an addict and definitely needs help to get out of that, whatever has happened to him is obviously not because of OP but he was only trying to be of help since they were facing difficulties to gamble and he thought he would suggest him something that might be useful for them.

Little he knew that one of them will soon start ruining their life only because they are now able to gamble without any limits or threats from the authorities, now it's their own responsibility to get out of it and if one helps them they should be thankful.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on April 12, 2023, 03:34:57 AM

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And what concerns me is that one of them actually becomes a gambling addict in a crypto casino. It was a pity that he had lost his senses and forgot about his responsibilities as the head of the family to the point where he was more concerned with money at stake.
From that incident I felt very guilty for inviting him to bet at a crypto casino until he became an addict.

I want to ask for advice and input from members here, what should I do to deal with this friend of mine and how should I react to it because he became a crazy gambler because of my invitation.

IMO, no one is to be blamed for what happened to one of your friends. why, because your friend should be responsible for himself. in fact, he should have control over his gambling, especially if he already has a family. as an adult man, he is very aware of what he is doing related to this one hobby. The problem of addiction can come from anywhere. it's just that, in this case, you are the bridge that provides knowledge and insight regarding crypto casinos.

In this case, I don't know how close you are to your friend, and how far you give an understanding of cause and effect. moreover, if your friend has no responsibility. From the start, you should first provide an understanding of gambling. I mean, the bad effects of excessive activity. you have to give him understanding and insight regarding betting. that gambling is not a way to make money instantly. but rather, looking for entertainment. if you win, consider it a bonus of the nice things.

Well, I'm not sure if I have the answer to your question. Instead, take a persuasive approach. the rest, you can take it to the experts. next time, if you want to provide knowledge or as you tell in this thread. You also have to provide insight into the bad effects, especially if your friend has no self-control.

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I will share a little of my experience when I invite some friends who like to bet at local bookies.

A few months ago about 4 of my friends came to my local town house to bet on a football game and after a while they were arrested by law enforcement in my country because I live in a country where gambling is strictly prohibited and there are laws in it. They were all jailed for several days and had to pay fines to be released from prosecution.

The question here is, How does the police department know that they place bets, I feel like they send a big amount of money from the casino to their bank accounts and that was what triggered the alarms. Or maybe they post it in their social networks. I don't know, but he should have a lower profile to avoid this.

The local bookmaker has become the target of the police department and the police are waiting for betting activities to take place inside the bookie's house so that when making an arrest the police have sufficient evidence and several witnesses or other suspects who also take a fair share in the gambling activity.
I don't know what was done to the dealer, but some of the suspects who were caught could be released by paying a fine in exchange for the legal release that was carried out.
This seems unreasonable, but in my country it has become common sense that a suspect with a prison sentence can go free after paying a fine.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on April 12, 2023, 03:34:57 AM

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Your story doesn't make sense? Where did they even do this gambling if it was banned throughout your country? Did they come from another region or country? What happened to the place that allowed them to place the bets or how did the police trace them? You are not responsible for their actions when it comes to online gambling. They would have stumbled across it one way or another, besides that - most countries that are strict on gambling are also pretty strict on cryptocurrency because of the reason you describe. If someone is a gambler to that level, they need to hit rock bottom and accept it before they will be able to rid themselves of the habit. It's possible to go "cold turkey" on it, but requires real willpower and the ability to let go of previous losses.

Bookmakers use their houses as places to carry out betting activities and operate illegally so even though the country prohibits gambling there are still many local bookmakers offering bets to some gamblers.
If you ask how to trace it, we don't need to think about it anymore because the police definitely have a lot of informants and spies running around to find every illegal action.
Maybe you can ask this because you don't live in my country and also never felt what I experienced about this problem.

It's a bit of guilt on your part that you have put your friend in a situation. First in prison and then now he is in his worse addiction. But its true what he said about hitting rock bottom will always make a person rethink what he is doing in his life.

Its the time a person will really have to reassess and find himself again when he has nothing to bet on games anymore. It can only be good if he is winning all the time but if he is not good at it then its time to stop.

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