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Quote from: Debonaire217 on September 22, 2020, 04:43:51 AM

The only issue I can see with this is the possible effect of esports for minors to gamble. Most of the systems and gambling sites at this time have good regulation already to avoid this kind of scenario to happen. In addition, minors have their parents to remind and supervise them to avoid gambling.

Though, minors IMO even without gambling sites could already be expose to gambling through the game itself. Most of the games uses credits for skins and usually, good skins comes from the raffle. Thus, exposing them to implicit gambling already.

Yes, that is the possible issue but on the other hand I don't see why would e sports be a bigger threat to minors than the other types of gambling. Yes, it's hard to control them and today everything is available on much easier way to minors and children than it was to previous generations. That is why prevention is very important and how these children are raised. When something bad happened is very often too late to react.

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Quote from: Debonaire217 on September 22, 2020, 04:43:51 AM

The only issue I can see with this is the possible effect of esports for minors to gamble. Most of the systems and gambling sites at this time have good regulation already to avoid this kind of scenario to happen. In addition, minors have their parents to remind and supervise them to avoid gambling.

Though, minors IMO even without gambling sites could already be expose to gambling through the game itself. Most of the games uses credits for skins and usually, good skins comes from the raffle. Thus, exposing them to implicit gambling already.

But still, the gambling site has a problem to detect their visitor, whether they are kids or they are adult people.
Kids can visit on the gambling site without their parents know what they do, and the kids can play gambling secretly.
That is a job for the parents to watch out their kids before it's too late.
So besides parents need to take care of their kids, they also need to check on the kid's mobile phone to see what game they played.
If the kids want to buy something from the game, we should remind them that they don't have to buy anything.

This will only work as long as the kids are small, once they get smarter they could try to hide their activity from you by gambling on other devices or by deleting the history on their browsers, this is why it is not enough to supervise them and forbid them to gamble you need to explain to them why this is a bad idea and let them internalize those facts, if you can do that then the chances they gamble while young will drop dramatically and you will not have to worry about that subject ever again.

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Quote from: Debonaire217 on September 22, 2020, 04:43:51 AM

The only issue I can see with this is the possible effect of esports for minors to gamble. Most of the systems and gambling sites at this time have good regulation already to avoid this kind of scenario to happen. In addition, minors have their parents to remind and supervise them to avoid gambling.

Though, minors IMO even without gambling sites could already be expose to gambling through the game itself. Most of the games uses credits for skins and usually, good skins comes from the raffle. Thus, exposing them to implicit gambling already.

But still, the gambling site has a problem to detect their visitor, whether they are kids or they are adult people.
Kids can visit on the gambling site without their parents know what they do, and the kids can play gambling secretly.
That is a job for the parents to watch out their kids before it's too late.
So besides parents need to take care of their kids, they also need to check on the kid's mobile phone to see what game they played.
If the kids want to buy something from the game, we should remind them that they don't have to buy anything.

It is true that it is very difficult for gambling sites to know the real age of the users without KYC procedures. Even some gambling sites
have brought esports in, which I am afraid of children who used to play esports so they can access gambling sites. Moreover, millennials
are now smarter than their parents in terms of technology, so if not supervised and restricted by parents when accessing the internet and
playing games, it allows children to access and play gambling secretly. The role of parents is very vital, usually, as a parent, I accompany
my child when they access the internet, to ensure that my child doesn't access gambling sites.

Even if gambling sites use KYC to verify their members, the kids will find other ways to get verified.
They can ask adult people around them to verify the members, and if that person doesn't become aware of that, the kids will have their account verified.
That is what happens if the kids somehow access the gambling site without the parents knows.
Sometimes, the parents don't even know what is about the site, and they just follow what their kids want without searching for other things.
I don't know why kids can smarter than the last 10 years ago, but I realize that the internet helps someone learn something they don't know.

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Quote from: alani123 on September 03, 2020, 02:42:22 AM

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I see your point here, and regulators are quite skewed in judging since they can't really blame the parents now can they? Other than that really I don't think there's any solution to Kids accidentally going into gambling. Regulators should most likely just put a limit into it, or the sites themselves that is, so that even if they gamble, at the very least it won't turn into something worse. To prevent new accounts, you can just link the gambling account to the steam account itself (or the game itself on other platforms).

Quote from: Furious 7 on September 10, 2020, 09:30:43 AM

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There's a difference between gambling and gambling addiction here. It may be a thin line, yes, but teaching them about that thin line early on could prove to be quite helpful imo. Plus, let's be real here, we gamble ALL the time, not just in games, we do that in everyday decisions, examinations, etc., and making a kid learn about the consequences of something that he leaves on to LUCK should prove to be quite helpful in their upbringing. Teaching someone about gambling doesn't mean you teach him TO gamble, it's ABOUT.

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Quote from: smyslov on September 18, 2020, 05:20:48 AM

Quote from: goinmerry on September 13, 2020, 06:55:15 PM

Esports is taking the spotlight and many minors love the game. We just hope they will not go into a worst path when they gamble.

They will not if they have responsible parents who will look at their kids activities online, kids will just play and do whatever they fancy to do, they have no control yet and thinks like e sports betting are part of the game, this is where the parents should come in to supervise and guide the kids on how to react on this things, parents should be aware that everything online are not all good for kids.

With a lot of teenagers on the internet right now, that would be hard to do. Let's be honest, you could go in a lot of platforms and there is no way that there is no kid in there. Not all of the parents can supervise their children especially those with their own rooms and own PCs they could use. Some of them are even streaming and you could see their behavior is not that appropriate to begin with. And with a lot of people to influence them online, that would make it harder.

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Quote from: Debonaire217 on September 22, 2020, 04:43:51 AM

Though, minors IMO even without gambling sites could already be expose to gambling through the game itself. Most of the games uses credits for skins and usually, good skins comes from the raffle. Thus, exposing them to implicit gambling already.

The skins were so thrilling that many really wants it, but now there are many ways to avail free skin thru FB live and some events in the game still depends on which game. To limit children to gamble too much, parents should only give their enough allowance or monitor their money spendings. It will be hard to control and monitor but still looking on how they spend will teach them how hard it is to earn so they should spend it Wisely.

^ Probably you guys talking on the mobile games which are also had a tournament that also users can place their bet using diamonds that you can buy it only on crypto and or in fiat cash. These kind of games are the most commonly players are kids, they purchase skins on that game for their account and even place a bet to the tournament using probably their parents credit/debit cards. This is not good for them, they need to supervised by their parents and monitor their money where to spend, especially these days that most of them stayed at home and probably looking some interesting events is on internet.

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Quote from: Debonaire217 on September 22, 2020, 04:43:51 AM

The only issue I can see with this is the possible effect of esports for minors to gamble. Most of the systems and gambling sites at this time have good regulation already to avoid this kind of scenario to happen. In addition, minors have their parents to remind and supervise them to avoid gambling.

Though, minors IMO even without gambling sites could already be expose to gambling through the game itself. Most of the games uses credits for skins and usually, good skins comes from the raffle. Thus, exposing them to implicit gambling already.

But still, the gambling site has a problem to detect their visitor, whether they are kids or they are adult people.
Kids can visit on the gambling site without their parents know what they do, and the kids can play gambling secretly.
That is a job for the parents to watch out their kids before it's too late.
So besides parents need to take care of their kids, they also need to check on the kid's mobile phone to see what game they played.
If the kids want to buy something from the game, we should remind them that they don't have to buy anything.

It is true that it is very difficult for gambling sites to know the real age of the users without KYC procedures. Even some gambling sites
have brought esports in, which I am afraid of children who used to play esports so they can access gambling sites. Moreover, millennials
are now smarter than their parents in terms of technology, so if not supervised and restricted by parents when accessing the internet and
playing games, it allows children to access and play gambling secretly. The role of parents is very vital, usually, as a parent, I accompany
my child when they access the internet, to ensure that my child doesn't access gambling sites.

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Quote from: Debonaire217 on September 22, 2020, 04:43:51 AM

Though, minors IMO even without gambling sites could already be expose to gambling through the game itself. Most of the games uses credits for skins and usually, good skins comes from the raffle. Thus, exposing them to implicit gambling already.

The skins were so thrilling that many really wants it, but now there are many ways to avail free skin thru FB live and some events in the game still depends on which game. To limit children to gamble too much, parents should only give their enough allowance or monitor their money spendings. It will be hard to control and monitor but still looking on how they spend will teach them how hard it is to earn so they should spend it Wisely.

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Quote from: Debonaire217 on September 22, 2020, 04:43:51 AM

The only issue I can see with this is the possible effect of esports for minors to gamble. Most of the systems and gambling sites at this time have good regulation already to avoid this kind of scenario to happen. In addition, minors have their parents to remind and supervise them to avoid gambling.

Though, minors IMO even without gambling sites could already be expose to gambling through the game itself. Most of the games uses credits for skins and usually, good skins comes from the raffle. Thus, exposing them to implicit gambling already.

But still, the gambling site has a problem to detect their visitor, whether they are kids or they are adult people.
Kids can visit on the gambling site without their parents know what they do, and the kids can play gambling secretly.
That is a job for the parents to watch out their kids before it's too late.
So besides parents need to take care of their kids, they also need to check on the kid's mobile phone to see what game they played.
If the kids want to buy something from the game, we should remind them that they don't have to buy anything.

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Quote from: Twinkledoe on September 21, 2020, 06:43:49 PM

Parenting is really hard. A growing person wants to try all things so it is not a surprise if he will venture in gambling at some point of his life. But as he grows older, he will realize things on his own. A parent can only give so much and the rest will be on his own accord. All of us have our own realizations in life, and those will not be influenced by our parents. It is our experience that taught us about life.

While this is true and kids each year get access to technologies that did not existed before and the parents struggle to keep up with the times, as long as you teach them from the beginning the dangers of gambling at an early age they should be fine, the real problem as you say begins when they claim their independence and as a parent your influence over your kids gets reduced significantly, but by that time parents are no longer responsible for the actions of their children and can only hope they did a good enough job for them to not fall in any kind of addiction.

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The only issue I can see with this is the possible effect of esports for minors to gamble. Most of the systems and gambling sites at this time have good regulation already to avoid this kind of scenario to happen. In addition, minors have their parents to remind and supervise them to avoid gambling.

Though, minors IMO even without gambling sites could already be expose to gambling through the game itself. Most of the games uses credits for skins and usually, good skins comes from the raffle. Thus, exposing them to implicit gambling already.

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Quote from: Twinkledoe on September 21, 2020, 06:43:49 PM

Parenting is really hard. A growing person wants to try all things so it is not a surprise if he will venture in gambling at some point of his life. But as he grows older, he will realize things on his own. A parent can only give so much and the rest will be on his own accord. All of us have our own realizations in life, and those will not be influenced by our parents. It is our experience that taught us about life.

I agree with you, good parenting should be about understanding a subject and its risk involved,ratger than just prohibiting everything without a good reason. There are different levels of gambling and betting and under supervision it's much better to get a feeling for it. There is also a risk that if everything is mir allowed by your parents, that you will try everything at once when turning 18.

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Quote from: Twinkledoe on September 21, 2020, 06:43:49 PM

Parenting is really hard. A growing person wants to try all things so it is not a surprise if he will venture in gambling at some point of his life. But as he grows older, he will realize things on his own. A parent can only give so much and the rest will be on his own accord. All of us have our own realizations in life, and those will not be influenced by our parents. It is our experience that taught us about life.

It's hard as it is and if the kids are already well-versed with technology especially with technology, computers, smartphones and other gadgets. The chance that they might get into an online casino is high. With the growing esports industry, it's very possible that they may get into it.

Quote from: Mahanton on September 21, 2020, 06:20:51 PM

We do have our own decisions in life and it isnt just right that it would all took blame on parenting issues.

This is a big issue, when there's something wrong with the activity that the kids have discovered, it's all in the cargo of the parents. It can be wrong or not to blame the parenting but there's a big part to play for the guidance.

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Parenting is really hard. A growing person wants to try all things so it is not a surprise if he will venture in gambling at some point of his life. But as he grows older, he will realize things on his own. A parent can only give so much and the rest will be on his own accord. All of us have our own realizations in life, and those will not be influenced by our parents. It is our experience that taught us about life.

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Quote from: South Park on September 18, 2020, 01:16:04 PM

Quote from: maydna on September 14, 2020, 07:17:54 PM

Quote from: Wawa2013 on September 13, 2020, 08:56:16 AM

It is very difficult to identify users of gambling sites without KYC procedures, it is very difficult to prevent underage users from
accessing gambling sites. So actually the gambling site provides esports betting options or not, it still doesn't prevent underage
users from accessing the gambling site. The best way should be from parental supervision, by limiting their kids from accessing
the internet.

It is not easy to prevent the kids from accessing a gambling site because when they can use their mobile phones, and we are not beside them, they can free to visit websites. They can visit gambling or porn websites from the advertisement because they will see other websites' ads.

The kids need to be watched, and parental supervision will be needed and necessary, so we can suggest the website that they can visit. Sometimes, when they are playing games, they will see the ads about playing gambling. Or when they use social media, they can see any ads inside their account.

In my opinion I think parents are delegating the upbringing of their kids to the technology around them and that is a mistake, now is more and more common to see kids that are not even three years old make use of smart phones or tablets and in my opinion that is wrong, at that age they do not have developed enough to understand the dangers they are facing online and unrestricted access to the Internet to them is a bad idea and until that is the case we need to protect them from gambling and online predators.

Bottomline, the responsibility is really on their parents.
The discipline and mindset that they ingrain within their kids will be significant even if when they are not around.
As these kids can have access with those sites anytime, it is their upbringing that will guide them whether they are still on track or not.

I cant really took the blame all to the parents yet im a type on whos been always not been guided by my parents but as i aged i do become mature and do able to learn up things on my own with my own will but of course there are still some little bit words from my parents but since theyre busy from their own works then its unlikely for them to monitor on what im doing until i do reach a certain age where i do have grasp on something.

Its up to your own will and decision making as a person or individual when dealing with things.Its up to you if you see it that it would be beneficial or not or
completely can influence you and put you into the other path.

We do have our own decisions in life and it isnt just right that it would all took blame on parenting issues.

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Quote from: Wawa2013 on September 13, 2020, 08:56:16 AM

It is very difficult to identify users of gambling sites without KYC procedures, it is very difficult to prevent underage users from
accessing gambling sites. So actually the gambling site provides esports betting options or not, it still doesn't prevent underage
users from accessing the gambling site. The best way should be from parental supervision, by limiting their kids from accessing
the internet.

It is not easy to prevent the kids from accessing a gambling site because when they can use their mobile phones, and we are not beside them, they can free to visit websites. They can visit gambling or porn websites from the advertisement because they will see other websites' ads.

The kids need to be watched, and parental supervision will be needed and necessary, so we can suggest the website that they can visit. Sometimes, when they are playing games, they will see the ads about playing gambling. Or when they use social media, they can see any ads inside their account.

In my opinion I think parents are delegating the upbringing of their kids to the technology around them and that is a mistake, now is more and more common to see kids that are not even three years old make use of smart phones or tablets and in my opinion that is wrong, at that age they do not have developed enough to understand the dangers they are facing online and unrestricted access to the Internet to them is a bad idea and until that is the case we need to protect them from gambling and online predators.

Bottomline, the responsibility is really on their parents.
The discipline and mindset that they ingrain within their kids will be significant even if when they are not around.
As these kids can have access with those sites anytime, it is their upbringing that will guide them whether they are still on track or not.

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Quote from: maydna on September 14, 2020, 07:17:54 PM

Quote from: Wawa2013 on September 13, 2020, 08:56:16 AM

It is very difficult to identify users of gambling sites without KYC procedures, it is very difficult to prevent underage users from
accessing gambling sites. So actually the gambling site provides esports betting options or not, it still doesn't prevent underage
users from accessing the gambling site. The best way should be from parental supervision, by limiting their kids from accessing
the internet.

It is not easy to prevent the kids from accessing a gambling site because when they can use their mobile phones, and we are not beside them, they can free to visit websites. They can visit gambling or porn websites from the advertisement because they will see other websites' ads.

The kids need to be watched, and parental supervision will be needed and necessary, so we can suggest the website that they can visit. Sometimes, when they are playing games, they will see the ads about playing gambling. Or when they use social media, they can see any ads inside their account.

In my opinion I think parents are delegating the upbringing of their kids to the technology around them and that is a mistake, now is more and more common to see kids that are not even three years old make use of smart phones or tablets and in my opinion that is wrong, at that age they do not have developed enough to understand the dangers they are facing online and unrestricted access to the Internet to them is a bad idea and until that is the case we need to protect them from gambling and online predators.

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Quote from: smyslov on September 18, 2020, 05:20:48 AM

Quote from: goinmerry on September 13, 2020, 06:55:15 PM

Esports is taking the spotlight and many minors love the game. We just hope they will not go into a worst path when they gamble.

They will not if they have responsible parents who will look at their kids activities online, kids will just play and do whatever they fancy to do, they have no control yet and thinks like e sports betting are part of the game, this is where the parents should come in to supervise and guide the kids on how to react on this things, parents should be aware that everything online are not all good for kids.

Agree, the only solution to this is proper guidance. Betting platforms can't do about it so we should rely on this problem on the parents and besides, it's their responsibility to guide their children to the right path. It's not the gambling platform's fault if many kids are using their platform because how can they discover a betting platform if their mindset is just to play games, maybe they're influenced by the parents and it's not a good thing. They shouldn't blame eSports and the betting platforms, they should be responsible for their kids.

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Quote from: goinmerry on September 13, 2020, 06:55:15 PM

Esports is taking the spotlight and many minors love the game. We just hope they will not go into a worst path when they gamble.

They will not if they have responsible parents who will look at their kids activities online, kids will just play and do whatever they fancy to do, they have no control yet and thinks like e sports betting are part of the game, this is where the parents should come in to supervise and guide the kids on how to react on this things, parents should be aware that everything online are not all good for kids.

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That's true we cannot be with them all the time, we can restrict the gambling sites from our ISP but it's different when they are out of home and they carry their phone, what the parents can do is to educate their children about the risk of gambling at a very young age, if you have discipline your child, you don't even have to guard him.

You are right that it is very important to teach your child to avoid problems on their own. And one of these ways can be a negative experience - if a child loses his pocket money in an online casino, then most likely he will not go there anymore. And I see that the majority of young people have an extremely negative attitude towards casinos. Still, now in the information age, few people believe in "easy" money.

Actually it is not Casinos that younger generation got involved these days but local gambling.they tend to play in groups somewhere that no parent will see them.

and they even sometimes create their own gambling just to make money easily.

i admit that i entered casino house late when i was graduated in college but back in secondary?we have lots of gambling games
and yeah i also once lose all my allowance because of gambling but that did not stopped me from coming back,instead i start selling some
of my knowledge in School just to make money for gambling.

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