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Quote from: Twinkledoe on September 08, 2020, 09:02:16 PM

Our world has changed already. The digital technology is fast changing and if parents can't cope up with this fast pace in technology, these kids will explore things that their parents are not aware of. And to combat this potential problem, I guess one way to address this is to foster them about the importance of money and how to spend it wisely. As parents can't watch their kids all day long, they need to find a way how to give them life long lessons that they can keep.

In these 10 years, technology has grown fast. Many new technologies are invented to help people. And that technology for the new games also grow and evolve to the new interface. I am aware that kids now become smart, and they will easily use the mobile phone from their parents to play any games or browse anything.

If there are no responsibilities from their parents, I am afraid that kids will explore the internet from the mobile phone to visit any website. Usually, the kids will click the link that shows on the mobile phone, and they don't know what the links are.

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I started with gambling when I was a kid, first it was football, of course with friends, we played football every day, we had passion for that. Now when kids are more into e-sports probably they will bet on their favorite teams, and they will discover the world of betting. It's not something you can control, kids will find the way if they want to, like most of us, so why not to focus on education, to not speak about gambling in negative way, let's try to
learn our kids how to gamble and how to control their urges for gambling, and all other vices, and there are other more dangerous vices than gambling is, from my point of view.

Technology is upgrading very fast and new innovation will really come out and on today's era where young minds can really be exposed into these things at a very young age and we have seen those number differences
on past years comparing to now where e-sports is really becoming big and known.To know that prize pools do even go beyond multi-million of dollars which means it does really have that kind of level of recognition.
Crypto gambling sites had already list out or include e-sports for a while now and there's no stopping of it if they do saw that demand is there.There are even solely dedicated e-sports fiat gambling sites.
No surprise if that would be clinging up to this market also.

Pretty well, there are multi millions that being yield into this gambling market, it's no longer stoppable indeed, as there are many participants and with young minds those youth who are exposed to this gambling will continue to participate.
If there are more exposed to this the adults with them needs to monitor them in order to avoid any bad effects to this people.

Our world has changed already. The digital technology is fast changing and if parents can't cope up with this fast pace in technology, these kids will explore things that their parents are not aware of. And to combat this potential problem, I guess one way to address this is to foster them about the importance of money and how to spend it wisely. As parents can't watch their kids all day long, they need to find a way how to give them life long lessons that they can keep.

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Quote from: iv4n on September 07, 2020, 10:43:53 AM

I started with gambling when I was a kid, first it was football, of course with friends, we played football every day, we had passion for that. Now when kids are more into e-sports probably they will bet on their favorite teams, and they will discover the world of betting. It's not something you can control, kids will find the way if they want to, like most of us, so why not to focus on education, to not speak about gambling in negative way, let's try to
learn our kids how to gamble and how to control their urges for gambling, and all other vices, and there are other more dangerous vices than gambling is, from my point of view.

Technology is upgrading very fast and new innovation will really come out and on today's era where young minds can really be exposed into these things at a very young age and we have seen those number differences
on past years comparing to now where e-sports is really becoming big and known.To know that prize pools do even go beyond multi-million of dollars which means it does really have that kind of level of recognition.
Crypto gambling sites had already list out or include e-sports for a while now and there's no stopping of it if they do saw that demand is there.There are even solely dedicated e-sports fiat gambling sites.
No surprise if that would be clinging up to this market also.

Pretty well, there are multi millions that being yield into this gambling market, it's no longer stoppable indeed, as there are many participants and with young minds those youth who are exposed to this gambling will continue to participate.
If there are more exposed to this the adults with them needs to monitor them in order to avoid any bad effects to this people.

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There is no way a crypto-gambling site can monitor and implement an age limit requirement unless KYC is mandatory which is not the case for now or only possible at most fiat online sports betting sites. It's not their problem anymore if kids able to access the site.

Currently, lots of youngsters are addicted to playing Esports but I truly believed not purely on the point that they will register in a gambling site then place a bet.

They do gambling via P2P. Either:

a) Teams vs Teams
b) Betting on a specific event for Moneyline (the usual)

I've been there and as it was a hype here in my area.

Even it's possible and chances that kids will bet on a Gambling site soon, I found it not alarming. After all, if they behave wrongly, I trust their parents or friends will notice it and that's the time they will give advice and help.

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Nobody here allows kids to gamble. It's the kids' decision to do that and none can stop them taking into account their stubborn nature. Control is in the hands of parents and so, they can decide where to stop their kids from entering. If parents are caring and they do have a watch on their kids, it is not possible for such kids to give any time to gambling. Yes, eSports does have underaged kids playing games like CS:GO, DOTA2 and the craze that's immensely rising these days is for PUBG. Speaking very frankly, I never played PUBG and I think I'll not play that game till my last breath. It is better to stop kids from playing these games so to give their valuable time in nurturing themselves through education and learning.

Indeed. No parents would allow their children to gamble because no parent would let their child to have a bad future or make them addicted in gambling, that is why it is a parents fault if they are irresponsible for letting their child gamble or any bad habit. But I don't think games like CS:Go, DOTA2, LOL, and other violent games would result a bad habit to an underaged child, as long their parents would limit them from using or playing these computer games. So they could not forget their studies and social life.

I agree, no parent would allow their children to gamble.

But that would be a different conversation when we are talking about the parents not knowing their children they're gambling. There are a lot of children that are addicted to these games, and their parents wouldn't know most of them and they are even letting their children buy these loot boxes thatmaight make them want gambling more.

It's true that loot boxes are currently viewed as a gateway to addiction and compulsive gambling. Many countries have banned them or are considering banning them. If there's a second wave of gambling among kids, even outside of games. Regulations might not be as relaxed this time. I'd argue that certain gambling sites catering to gamers are even more accessible nowdays than what microtransactions in games used to be like for. Back in the day you had to buy prepaid balance cards for games. Nowdays you can just deposit on gambling sites via debit card in seconds, and it's the same with crypto sites, they just integrate a payment processor that accepts cards.

This will be a major problem of most parents because the truth is, they can't supervise their kids 24/7.
There are a lot of kids gamers so going to gambling sites will be easy access for them.
So maybe what parents can do, is instill the discipline to their kids and inculcate the value of money.
Also, have open discussion when it comes to gambling. It is better to tackle it rather than avoid this kind of discussion.

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Quote from: Janation on September 07, 2020, 10:39:02 PM

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Quote from: 2double0 on September 04, 2020, 03:59:13 PM

Nobody here allows kids to gamble. It's the kids' decision to do that and none can stop them taking into account their stubborn nature. Control is in the hands of parents and so, they can decide where to stop their kids from entering. If parents are caring and they do have a watch on their kids, it is not possible for such kids to give any time to gambling. Yes, eSports does have underaged kids playing games like CS:GO, DOTA2 and the craze that's immensely rising these days is for PUBG. Speaking very frankly, I never played PUBG and I think I'll not play that game till my last breath. It is better to stop kids from playing these games so to give their valuable time in nurturing themselves through education and learning.

Indeed. No parents would allow their children to gamble because no parent would let their child to have a bad future or make them addicted in gambling, that is why it is a parents fault if they are irresponsible for letting their child gamble or any bad habit. But I don't think games like CS:Go, DOTA2, LOL, and other violent games would result a bad habit to an underaged child, as long their parents would limit them from using or playing these computer games. So they could not forget their studies and social life.

I agree, no parent would allow their children to gamble.

But that would be a different conversation when we are talking about the parents not knowing their children they're gambling. There are a lot of children that are addicted to these games, and their parents wouldn't know most of them and they are even letting their children buy these loot boxes thatmaight make them want gambling more.

It's true that loot boxes are currently viewed as a gateway to addiction and compulsive gambling. Many countries have banned them or are considering banning them. If there's a second wave of gambling among kids, even outside of games. Regulations might not be as relaxed this time. I'd argue that certain gambling sites catering to gamers are even more accessible nowdays than what microtransactions in games used to be like for. Back in the day you had to buy prepaid balance cards for games. Nowdays you can just deposit on gambling sites via debit card in seconds, and it's the same with crypto sites, they just integrate a payment processor that accepts cards.

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Quote from: alani123 on September 03, 2020, 01:22:08 PM

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e-sports always worry me. I've never been into them, but I assume there is probably a high risk of match fixing, no? It seems that it would be highly unregulated.

Yes, this is also a big concern. Many of the games that go into gambling for eSports are oftentimes from new and upcoming teams that have little to no reputation. It's hard to know if these groups will uphold their sportsmanship. This has been observed in Counter Strike: Global Offensive matches and it also gained the attention of regulators. Some say even that with popularization of open eSports league ladders this would become more widespread.

Quote from: Darker45 on September 03, 2020, 09:47:46 PM

Well, we are gambling on these players' performances and match results but they, the players of these eSports games themselves, are not gambling. I am not familiar with majority of the players of these eSports and whether or not there are minors among them, but does it matter?

Some players of DOTA II, PUBG, Fortnite, Mobile Legends, Call of Duty, and other eSports joining major leagues and other tournaments may be underage but they are certainly playing with the full consent of their parents or guardians.

And, again, they are not gambling. They're joining tournaments and it so happened that these tournaments are provided with gambling odds by sportsbooks on which gamblers could place their bet.

You can always lock players in a something like "glass ball" for the duration of "Olympics" and thus solve the problem. It seems absurd but maybe the only solution?

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Quote from: 2double0 on September 04, 2020, 03:59:13 PM

Nobody here allows kids to gamble. It's the kids' decision to do that and none can stop them taking into account their stubborn nature. Control is in the hands of parents and so, they can decide where to stop their kids from entering. If parents are caring and they do have a watch on their kids, it is not possible for such kids to give any time to gambling. Yes, eSports does have underaged kids playing games like CS:GO, DOTA2 and the craze that's immensely rising these days is for PUBG. Speaking very frankly, I never played PUBG and I think I'll not play that game till my last breath. It is better to stop kids from playing these games so to give their valuable time in nurturing themselves through education and learning.

Indeed. No parents would allow their children to gamble because no parent would let their child to have a bad future or make them addicted in gambling, that is why it is a parents fault if they are irresponsible for letting their child gamble or any bad habit. But I don't think games like CS:Go, DOTA2, LOL, and other violent games would result a bad habit to an underaged child, as long their parents would limit them from using or playing these computer games. So they could not forget their studies and social life.

I agree, no parent would allow their children to gamble.

But that would be a different conversation when we are talking about the parents not knowing their children they're gambling. There are a lot of children that are addicted to these games, and their parents wouldn't know most of them and they are even letting their children buy these loot boxes thatmaight make them want gambling more.

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Quote from: iv4n on September 07, 2020, 10:43:53 AM

I started with gambling when I was a kid, first it was football, of course with friends, we played football every day, we had passion for that. Now when kids are more into e-sports probably they will bet on their favorite teams, and they will discover the world of betting. It's not something you can control, kids will find the way if they want to, like most of us, so why not to focus on education, to not speak about gambling in negative way, let's try to
learn our kids how to gamble and how to control their urges for gambling, and all other vices, and there are other more dangerous vices than gambling is, from my point of view.

Technology is upgrading very fast and new innovation will really come out and on todays era where young minds can really be exposed into these things at a very young age and we have seen those number differences
on past years comparing to now where e-sports is really becoming big and known.To know that prize pools do even go beyond multi-million of dollars which means it does really have that kind of level of recognition.
Crypto gambling sites had already list out or include e-sports for a while now and theres no stopping of it if they do saw that demand is there.There are even solely dedicated e-sports fiat gambling sites.
No surprise if that would be clinging up to this market also.

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Quote from: rand1919 on September 04, 2020, 05:18:24 AM

In the end, cryptocurrency in esports is way better then skin gambling and scummy websites and kids throwing money on something like skins.

I agree with this. During the early days of Dota 2 when there's still dota2lounge. We gamble with items/skins and it's already giving that excitement to me and my friends when we bet. And just like any other kids during those times, we don't care how much we'll spend on it as long as we're happy.

If we want to exchange it for cash, we need to trade or sell them through P2P with any person that is interested in the items that we've won. Unlike this time, it's easier for any person even a kid to register and bet with any e-sports games and deposit even without KYC.

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I started with gambling when I was a kid, first it was football, of course with friends, we played football every day, we had passion for that. Now when kids are more into e-sports probably they will bet on their favorite teams, and they will discover the world of betting. It's not something you can control, kids will find the way if they want to, like most of us, so why not to focus on education, to not speak about gambling in negative way, let's try to
learn our kids how to gamble and how to control their urges for gambling, and all other vices, and there are other more dangerous vices than gambling is, from my point of view.

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Quote from: acroman08 on September 04, 2020, 06:23:56 AM

to be honest there are no stopping kids from going online and gambling unless the parents either ask their internet provider to block any adult website, gambling sites etc

As far as I know the ISP cannot just block a website just because the client say so, if that's the case then public wifis could have banned 18+ websites or any gambling platform. There are already restrictions given by the rules of the platform, I think that's enough for now. Parents should be accountable on their minors, parent's supervision is required until 18 years old isn't it?

Quote from: acroman08 on September 04, 2020, 06:23:56 AM

.. or the gambling site requires KYC upon registering from their website. but speaking from experience as a person who exposed to gambling at a very early age it never occurred to me to gamble money because of the game I play.

As for crypto casino putting KYC procedure would just ruin the very essence of integrating the cryptocurrency as it offers pseudonymity.

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I think this is not just about the crypto gambling site, I mean even if they don't allow minors to gamble in their site if the person really wants it, he will do anything to enter or to gamble even if he's a minor. We can't blame the gambling site for having e-sports because they don't specifically offer that for minors so they don't have to adjust or what, it's always the guardian who should be responsible when their child gets into gambling at a young age.

This is one of the challenges today’s technological advancement made in the society. Children, the younger generations as a whole, are very keen with technology. In this circumstance, in particular, the gambling sites neither parents don’t have assurance that minors would refrain from gambling in their age, prohibited to gamble by the jurisdiction.

Indeed. Younger people are the ones who can easily adapt technology that's why they are more prone to online gambling because they can easily explore various things on the internet. Without really the proper guidance of their parents, they can discover online casinos without their parents knowing it. Gambling sites have their responsibilities like prohibiting minors from their sites, but parents should be the ones to always monitor their children because gambling sites can't really stop minors if they really want to gamble.

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The main point here is, they need to update their rules and regulations for those minor age. Those kids don't have patience when they use their Dad's card. they might get carried away and use all of that and the result when their parents found out about it, the site behind it will be closed and sued by the authorities and they can't help but follow because of what they have done to the kids.

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Quote from: Kong Hey Pakboy on September 05, 2020, 11:25:21 AM

No parents would allow their children to gamble because no parent would let their child to have a bad future or make them addicted in gambling, that is why it is a parents fault if they are irresponsible for letting their child gamble or any bad habit.

there are parents that are irresponsbile but there are kids that dont have an interest on gambling or computer games , these parent are lucky and they dont judge but others . there are also parents that are responsible but thier kids are uncontrollable and will still make a way to gamble . these parent are also falsely being judge by others .

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But I don't think games like CS:Go, DOTA2, LOL, and other violent games would result a bad habit to an underaged child, as long their parents would limit them from using or playing these computer games. So they could not forget their studies and social life.

if its a violent game , it can affect the childs attitude . this is the reason why theres a number or age recomendation on every game title . we can allow our kids as long as the games are kid friendly too

Actually, it hasn't been proven that violent video games lead to violence. This has actually been a notion pushed by conservatives and Christian lobbyists for some reason. This is the reason that age ratings on video games can be restrictive. Lobbyists being successful doesn't also mean that what they claim is true.

In terms of gambling though, it's not always as apparent to parents what the kids are doing. Most websites that allow underage persons in also take care of their payment methods being more covert. For example, when gambling was allowed with CSGO skins, parents would have had no idea their kids were gambling. It's just not visible in their receipts. All they would see was Valve software. Then the skins would be transfered to some shady unregulated websites with no reputation. In this case, if regulation is required to be more effective, it'd need more than a simple rating but enactment of more preventative measures. That's why I'm saying that if regulators start seeing this as a problem then all sites might start having problems.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on September 05, 2020, 04:58:31 PM

these kids still need proper guidance from their parents. if they have solid foundation when it comes to handling money, then they have no problem even when they are not around with their kids. sometimes it is the attitude that you instilled with their minds that will keep them away from being a gambling addict. the very foundation of their youth. but even if you, as a parent, did provide them the foundation, you still need to watch out for them, because once they are alone in the internet, you don't know what they are capable of.

Yes, kids need their parents to guide them from making a mistake, so they don't go in the wrong direction.
Become parents need more responsibility to take their kids from kids into adults to think which is good and not good.
Many parents have let their kids play with their mobile phones, and they don't check what their kids are doing.
So when the eSports games are integrated with the cryptocurrency, I think that can make the kids easily ask their parent's money to buy equipment in their accounts.
But that can also trigger the kids from playing gambling without their parents know.

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Quote from: Kong Hey Pakboy on September 05, 2020, 11:25:21 AM

No parents would allow their children to gamble because no parent would let their child to have a bad future or make them addicted in gambling, that is why it is a parents fault if they are irresponsible for letting their child gamble or any bad habit.

there are parents that are irresponsbile but there are kids that dont have an interest on gambling or computer games , these parent are lucky and they dont judge but others . there are also parents that are responsible but thier kids are uncontrollable and will still make a way to gamble . these parent are also falsely being judge by others .

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But I don't think games like CS:Go, DOTA2, LOL, and other violent games would result a bad habit to an underaged child, as long their parents would limit them from using or playing these computer games. So they could not forget their studies and social life.

if its a violent game , it can affect the childs attitude . this is the reason why theres a number or age recomendation on every game title . we can allow our kids as long as the games are kid friendly too

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Indeed. No parents would allow their children to gamble because no parent would let their child to have a bad future or make them addicted in gambling, that is why it is a parents fault if they are irresponsible for letting their child gamble or any bad habit. But I don't think games like CS:Go, DOTA2, LOL, and other violent games would result a bad habit to an underaged child, as long their parents would limit them from using or playing these computer games. So they could not forget their studies and social life.

Anything that is too much can affect them or push them into addiction. These games were too popular in my country that some were able to earn from it through streaming and doing live. I don't if it already become a problem to other parents that they children that some children thinks that what they're doing can help them to earn as there are young children doing live also but proper time management is need to balance the things and parents can guide them.

these kids still need proper guidance from their parents. if they have solid foundation when it comes to handling money, then they have no problem even when they are not around with their kids. sometimes it is the attitude that you instilled with their minds that will keep them away from being a gambling addict. the very foundation of their youth. but even if you, as a parent, did provide them the foundation, you still need to watch out for them, because once they are alone in the internet, you don't know what they are capable of.

Anything can really be changed up thats why parenting and guidance would really be still needed.Not from time to time but at least you are checking them once in a while.

Parenting does really have a big role when it comes to these kind of issues because it all starts from home.If you do mold them up which they are aware on how gambling addiction can really mess out

then they would really be much be careful on dealing with it incase they do decide to gamble but they do have such control because they have been taught on what are its cons.

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Quote from: Beparanf on September 05, 2020, 03:31:29 PM

Quote from: Kong Hey Pakboy on September 05, 2020, 11:25:21 AM

Indeed. No parents would allow their children to gamble because no parent would let their child to have a bad future or make them addicted in gambling, that is why it is a parents fault if they are irresponsible for letting their child gamble or any bad habit. But I don't think games like CS:Go, DOTA2, LOL, and other violent games would result a bad habit to an underaged child, as long their parents would limit them from using or playing these computer games. So they could not forget their studies and social life.

Anything that is too much can affect them or push them into addiction. These games were too popular in my country that some were able to earn from it through streaming and doing live. I don't if it already become a problem to other parents that they children that some children thinks that what they're doing can help them to earn as there are young children doing live also but proper time management is need to balance the things and parents can guide them.

these kids still need proper guidance from their parents. if they have solid foundation when it comes to handling money, then they have no problem even when they are not around with their kids. sometimes it is the attitude that you instilled with their minds that will keep them away from being a gambling addict. the very foundation of their youth. but even if you, as a parent, did provide them the foundation, you still need to watch out for them, because once they are alone in the internet, you don't know what they are capable of.

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Quote from: Kong Hey Pakboy on September 05, 2020, 11:25:21 AM

Indeed. No parents would allow their children to gamble because no parent would let their child to have a bad future or make them addicted in gambling, that is why it is a parents fault if they are irresponsible for letting their child gamble or any bad habit. But I don't think games like CS:Go, DOTA2, LOL, and other violent games would result a bad habit to an underaged child, as long their parents would limit them from using or playing these computer games. So they could not forget their studies and social life.

Anything that is too much can affect them or push them into addiction. These games were too popular in my country that some were able to earn from it through streaming and doing live. I don't if it already become a problem to other parents that they children that some children thinks that what they're doing can help them to earn as there are young children doing live also but proper time management is need to balance the things and parents can guide them.

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