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For stock investing I haven't learned or bought stocks, so for now cryptocurrency investing for me is still superior to stock investing, since bitcoin and altcoin prices have gone up like crazy, many stock investors have started to switch to investing in the cryptocurrency.

Pretty much agreed with this. Stocks are for boomers. Crypto has the real gains. The world is not what it used to be anymore. The time has changed. Stocks gain how much at best? %7? These are rookie numbers. Dogecoin went up by like what? 10000%? Now that's what I am talking about. That's how you make money. Now defi is also a thing, the whole stocks market will probably operate on ETH anyway. Why resist the tech? Those stubborn boomers have to die because they are going nuts on crypto lately. We won't have a crypto based economy any time soon unless the retarded boomers disappear.

Wow, you've got some pretty skewed views about investing. Thinking that crypto can only go up is pure folly. Expecting crypto to always return like the few exceptions that break the mold is even worse. These returns aren't typical, and crypto isn't really investing because the valuations are based on nothing but group think. Because the values are arbitrary, you're just gambling. Also, stocks average 10% annual compound returns, but there are always stocks that fly far higher. Berkshire has returned more than 390,000% since 1976. There are periods in 2020 where certain tech stocks have blown bitcoin out of the water over the same period, especially with bitcoin's current pullback. Saying that stocks are for boomers is just admitting how much you don't know about the financial system or how it actually works, and it's attitudes like this that cause actual investors not to take the crypto world seriously. They're not wrong to have the perception that crypto is mostly a bunch of unsophisticates who got lucky.

You sound a lot like a no-coiner mate.

Crypto is the best thing that has ever happened to the investment world. Nobody has any time to do all those researches, examining ratios, debts and such crap. Just buy bitcoin and it only goes up. Why can't it go up only? BTC has been going only up since its inception.

Don't believe me? Just see the BTC/USD chart.

Berkshire lol. Bitcoin returned 9999999999% since 2008.

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Even if crypto future is uncertain, I am still going yo make money out of it while it is still kicking and alive. Stocks need a lot of capital to make a considerable gain before you can consider making a passive income out of it, and you said it already, that the returns in crypto is faster than stocks.

That's why I said that both have their own merits, it's not like bitcoin is the holy grail that everyone wants it to be, bitcoin has its flaws and any rational bitcoiner should see those. I like your tenacity to go down the uncertain path but sometimes reality isn't what we expected it to be.

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Quote from: livingfree on April 30, 2021, 05:11:35 PM

I don't have any other investment when I've entered crypto and to me, crypto is always been better than stocks. In my experience, that gave me good profit even though I'm not really a trader but with holding it, gave me cash which I've made by just doing nothing.

The same thing with me, I dont have also investment since I joined this crypto community and I am so thankful because i was able to earn money from this cryptocurrency, it started from the profit that I gained from the signature campaign which I used for my investment, I never think that this cryptocurrency will really help me i terms of financial, even though I am still beginner, I can say that I will have good future in cryptocurrency, just keep holding and investing in crypto.

Yes there is not even 1% doubt in my mind. I will always go for crypto. As we have seen cryptos growth has absolutely no limit whereas in stocks they dont have that much potential as compared to that of crypto. My first preference will always be crypto

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Quote from: Midy on May 13, 2021, 12:21:48 AM

For stock investing I haven't learned or bought stocks, so for now cryptocurrency investing for me is still superior to stock investing, since bitcoin and altcoin prices have gone up like crazy, many stock investors have started to switch to investing in the cryptocurrency.

Pretty much agreed with this. Stocks are for boomers. Crypto has the real gains. The world is not what it used to be anymore. The time has changed. Stocks gain how much at best? %7? These are rookie numbers. Dogecoin went up by like what? 10000%? Now that's what I am talking about. That's how you make money. Now defi is also a thing, the whole stocks market will probably operate on ETH anyway. Why resist the tech? Those stubborn boomers have to die because they are going nuts on crypto lately. We won't have a crypto based economy any time soon unless the retarded boomers disappear.

Wow, you've got some pretty skewed views about investing. Thinking that crypto can only go up is pure folly. Expecting crypto to always return like the few exceptions that break the mold is even worse. These returns aren't typical, and crypto isn't really investing because the valuations are based on nothing but group think. Because the values are arbitrary, you're just gambling. Also, stocks average 10% annual compound returns, but there are always stocks that fly far higher. Berkshire has returned more than 390,000% since 1976. There are periods in 2020 where certain tech stocks have blown bitcoin out of the water over the same period, especially with bitcoin's current pullback. Saying that stocks are for boomers is just admitting how much you don't know about the financial system or how it actually works, and it's attitudes like this that cause actual investors not to take the crypto world seriously. They're not wrong to have the perception that crypto is mostly a bunch of unsophisticates who got lucky.

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Quote from: fulcare on May 25, 2021, 03:39:53 PM

What you say is absolutely on point. Forex trading is as much as gamble as you can get in the market. You could argue just the way as you can argue for or against crypto: there is no underlying asset. Sure you can take the economy but how often do we hear from someone who got burnt trading forex? Just a wrong analysis? Or maybe more luck involved that anticipated? It is as you said and while the USD or CHF is no invention or any improvement to existing systems, BTC is.

Yup, thats so obvious. Forex is a zero sum game which means every profit that we got come from loss another traders. This is really a gamble for me although the forex trader said it isn't a gamble because there's CoT. Meanwhile, Crypto isn't similar like forex, there's a burn coin and the value can be up throughout the supply and the demand.

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When investor don't like high-risk investment like crypto, they may be better suited to continue liking stocks. This is an option that basically never force anyone to enter and exit as this crypto has grown thank to the trust of its community. I think people keep comparing crypto and stocks and crypto with other investment asset. But for obvious reason, high-risk investment like bitcoin will also give you a good return.

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Quote from: Abiky on April 30, 2021, 02:15:34 PM

People have often compared crypto to stocks since owning a coin, represents your "share" of the decentralized blockchain network. Exchanges act as brokers in a similar fashion to traditional stocks. While stocks are fiercely regulated, crypto is the "wild west". Cryptocurrencies are extremely volatile, while stocks are much more stable. Despite crypto/Blockchain tech's popularity, stocks are still preferred by mainstream investors and traders alike.
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Nope, that is not the case. Owning a bitcoin is more similar to owning some gold or any other commodity. Bitcoin itself does not produce cash flow and does not give you any controlling right on the network or the mining facilities. You do have a stake, but there is not a lot you can do with it other than selling it if you are not happy.

A complete investor is someone who can recognise and use different models that give profits, and that includes knowing about the crypto market, the stock market, real state and many other assets and specially about companies.

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Quote from: mindrust on May 24, 2021, 10:55:57 AM

While these old shitbags chasing for 5% annual returns, crypto people are driving lambos and flying jets. Remember, you only live once. Why waste your time on boring investments? It doesn't make a bit of sense. As you said there are many legit projects that return %5 daily profits. As long as you don't invest in proven scams, you should be safe financially.

These old shitbags generalize all of cryptos as gamble and not as new invention for investation. The common reason why they call crypto as gamble because there is no underlying aset. But when they invest in forex, they never called it as gamble too. Sometimes I doubt why they think like that, they are just jealous with the achievement of this new tech.

What you say is absolutely on point. Forex trading is as much as gamble as you can get in the market. You could argue just the way as you can argue for or against crypto: there is no underlying asset. Sure you can take the economy but how often do we hear from someone who got burnt trading forex? Just a wrong analysis? Or maybe more luck involved that anticipated? It is as you said and while the USD or CHF is no invention or any improvement to existing systems, BTC is.

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Quote from: mindrust on May 24, 2021, 10:55:57 AM

While these old shitbags chasing for 5% annual returns, crypto people are driving lambos and flying jets. Remember, you only live once. Why waste your time on boring investments? It doesn't make a bit of sense. As you said there are many legit projects that return %5 daily profits. As long as you don't invest in proven scams, you should be safe financially.

These old shitbags generalize all of cryptos as gamble and not as new invention for investation. The common reason why they call crypto as gamble because there is no underlying aset. But when they invest in forex, they never called it as gamble too. Sometimes I doubt why they think like that, they are just jealous with the achievement of this new tech.

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Quote from: Abiky on May 25, 2021, 10:55:34 AM

Quote from: mindrust on May 23, 2021, 02:45:34 PM

Pretty much agreed with this. Stocks are for boomers. Crypto has the real gains. The world is not what it used to be anymore. The time has changed. Stocks gain how much at best? %7? These are rookie numbers. Dogecoin went up by like what? 10000%? Now that's what I am talking about. That's how you make money. Now defi is also a thing, the whole stocks market will probably operate on ETH anyway. Why resist the tech? Those stubborn boomers have to die because they are going nuts on crypto lately. We won't have a crypto based economy any time soon unless the retarded boomers disappear.

Couldn't agree more with you, mate. I'd would say crypto is better than stocks because you get higher returns in the long run. Of course, we cannot deny the fact that the risk of loss is higher with crypto than with stocks. That's because of the wild fluctuations in each crypto asset's price on the market. You could either become rich or poor in an instant, depending on what you do with your crypto investment.

Despite crypto's widespread success, stocks are still the #1 choice for serious investors and traders alike. That's probably because stocks are widely regulated, whereas crypto is not. It's no wonder why stocks are much more stable than crypto. For each person's preferences or needs, will be the type of asset to choose either as a short-term or long-term investment. It seems to me that both crypto and stocks will be here to stay for a very long time. Just my thoughts Grin

I understand that younger people prefer Cryptos to Stocks, but why not invest in both? Buying both stocks and cryptos only makes our portfolio stronger in bad times. Just look at bitcoins right now, the price dropped 40% over the last few weeks, while stocks aren't affected at all. In my opinion there are only benefits when mixing multiple asset classes together into one portfolio. And also with stocks we can buy only the blue chips with a high dividend yield, so we get money back each year which we could then take to put into crypto currencies.

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Quote from: mindrust on May 23, 2021, 02:45:34 PM

Pretty much agreed with this. Stocks are for boomers. Crypto has the real gains. The world is not what it used to be anymore. The time has changed. Stocks gain how much at best? %7? These are rookie numbers. Dogecoin went up by like what? 10000%? Now that's what I am talking about. That's how you make money. Now defi is also a thing, the whole stocks market will probably operate on ETH anyway. Why resist the tech? Those stubborn boomers have to die because they are going nuts on crypto lately. We won't have a crypto based economy any time soon unless the retarded boomers disappear.

Couldn't agree more with you, mate. I'd would say crypto is better than stocks because you get higher returns in the long run. Of course, we cannot deny the fact that the risk of loss is higher with crypto than with stocks. That's because of the wild fluctuations in each crypto asset's price on the market. You could either become rich or poor in an instant, depending on what you do with your crypto investment.

Despite crypto's widespread success, stocks are still the #1 choice for serious investors and traders alike. That's probably because stocks are widely regulated, whereas crypto is not. It's no wonder why stocks are much more stable than crypto. For each person's preferences or needs, will be the type of asset to choose either as a short-term or long-term investment. It seems to me that both crypto and stocks will be here to stay for a very long time. Just my thoughts Grin

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I agree dude that was a bit out of line. However these fucks are trying to kill bitcoin. Stonkz are dead weight. Why would anybody invest in stonkz I don't get it especially when you are young. I'd rather invest in doge than investing in stonkz.

Reliable&Stable = Not fun.

Crypto will exterminate the legacy banking and the stonkz market anyway. Bitcoin is inevitable.

I couldn't agree more. When I were still in college, the lecturer was very strong in saying that legitimate is an investment with the highest risk and those with small capital will not get rich by investing in stocks. Regarding this, I thought back and laughed a little, that at this time I felt that stocks were not comparable to crypto when it came to risk. Stocks also can't make you rich in my opinion is the right thing because per day, you can only get 2-5% profit per day. If you look at crypto, per day you can get 10% profit if you choose the right coin. It's much more interesting to master. It is like, when you can tame a lion, even if you don't worry about skinning a tiger anymore.

While these old shitbags chasing for 5% annual returns, crypto people are driving lambos and flying jets. Remember, you only live once. Why waste your time on boring investments? It doesn't make a bit of sense. As you said there are many legit projects that return %5 daily profits. As long as you don't invest in proven scams, you should be safe financially.

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Quote from: oHnK on May 24, 2021, 10:31:47 AM

Quote from: mindrust on May 24, 2021, 07:53:34 AM

I agree dude that was a bit out of line. However these fucks are trying to kill bitcoin. Stonkz are dead weight. Why would anybody invest in stonkz I don't get it especially when you are young. I'd rather invest in doge than investing in stonkz.

Reliable&Stable = Not fun.

Crypto will exterminate the legacy banking and the stonkz market anyway. Bitcoin is inevitable.

I couldn't agree more. When I were still in college, the lecturer was very strong in saying that legitimate is an investment with the highest risk and those with small capital will not get rich by investing in stocks. Regarding this, I thought back and laughed a little, that at this time I felt that stocks were not comparable to crypto when it came to risk. Stocks also can't make you rich in my opinion is the right thing because per day, you can only get 2-5% profit per day. If you look at crypto, per day you can get 10% profit if you choose the right coin. It's much more interesting to master. It is like, when you can tame a lion, even if you don't worry about skinning a tiger anymore.

Depending on the percentage of risk is the percentage of profiting. As in the quote, through stocks one can make promised profit of 2-3% regularly if he's an expert analyst about the stock market. The same isn't possible with the cryptomarket. One day there might be 10% profit, but the next day it can be a massive loss if the invested asset isn't the right one. However cryptocurrency investment easily attracts the stock investors.

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Quote from: mindrust on May 24, 2021, 07:53:34 AM

I agree dude that was a bit out of line. However these fucks are trying to kill bitcoin. Stonkz are dead weight. Why would anybody invest in stonkz I don't get it especially when you are young. I'd rather invest in doge than investing in stonkz.

Reliable&Stable = Not fun.

Crypto will exterminate the legacy banking and the stonkz market anyway. Bitcoin is inevitable.

I couldn't agree more. When I were still in college, the lecturer was very strong in saying that legitimate is an investment with the highest risk and those with small capital will not get rich by investing in stocks. Regarding this, I thought back and laughed a little, that at this time I felt that stocks were not comparable to crypto when it came to risk. Stocks also can't make you rich in my opinion is the right thing because per day, you can only get 2-5% profit per day. If you look at crypto, per day you can get 10% profit if you choose the right coin. It's much more interesting to master. It is like, when you can tame a lion, even if you don't worry about skinning a tiger anymore.

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Quote from: mindrust on May 23, 2021, 02:45:34 PM

Quote from: Midy on May 13, 2021, 12:21:48 AM

For stock investing I haven't learned or bought stocks, so for now cryptocurrency investing for me is still superior to stock investing, since bitcoin and altcoin prices have gone up like crazy, many stock investors have started to switch to investing in the cryptocurrency.

Pretty much agreed with this. Stocks are for boomers. Crypto has the real gains. The world is not what it used to be anymore. The time has changed. Stocks gain how much at best? %7? These are rookie numbers. Dogecoin went up by like what? 10000%? Now that's what I am talking about. That's how you make money. Now defi is also a thing, the whole stocks market will probably operate on ETH anyway. Why resist the tech? Those stubborn boomers have to die because they are going nuts on crypto lately. We won't have a crypto based economy any time soon unless the retarded boomers disappear.

That's so rude Tongue

I am sure those boomers you talking about include mine and your grandfathers or even for someone's parents... I am very pro-crypto but I don't understand the hate on stocks, majority of us have heard about Bitcoin very early but we didn't invest that time and we all are here basically when crypto became so popular. It's a good thing to appreciate the current tech, but another thing to pour hate on the previous versions... Stocks are still more stable and reliable than majority of today's crypto coins excluding the already established coins and tokens.

I agree dude that was a bit out of line. However these fucks are trying to kill bitcoin. Stonkz are dead weight. Why would anybody invest in stonkz I don't get it especially when you are young. I'd rather invest in doge than investing in stonkz.

Reliable&Stable = Not fun.

Crypto will exterminate the legacy banking and the stonkz market anyway. Bitcoin is inevitable.

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Quote from: mindrust on May 23, 2021, 02:45:34 PM

Quote from: Midy on May 13, 2021, 12:21:48 AM

For stock investing I haven't learned or bought stocks, so for now cryptocurrency investing for me is still superior to stock investing, since bitcoin and altcoin prices have gone up like crazy, many stock investors have started to switch to investing in the cryptocurrency.

Pretty much agreed with this. Stocks are for boomers. Crypto has the real gains. The world is not what it used to be anymore. The time has changed. Stocks gain how much at best? %7? These are rookie numbers. Dogecoin went up by like what? 10000%? Now that's what I am talking about. That's how you make money. Now defi is also a thing, the whole stocks market will probably operate on ETH anyway. Why resist the tech? Those stubborn boomers have to die because they are going nuts on crypto lately. We won't have a crypto based economy any time soon unless the retarded boomers disappear.

That's so rude Tongue

I am sure those boomers you talking about include mine and your grandfathers or even for someone's parents... I am very pro-crypto but I don't understand the hate on stocks, majority of us have heard about Bitcoin very early but we didn't invest that time and we all are here basically when crypto became so popular. It's a good thing to appreciate the current tech, but another thing to pour hate on the previous versions... Stocks are still more stable and reliable than majority of today's crypto coins excluding the already established coins and tokens.

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Quote from: Midy on May 13, 2021, 12:21:48 AM

For stock investing I haven't learned or bought stocks, so for now cryptocurrency investing for me is still superior to stock investing, since bitcoin and altcoin prices have gone up like crazy, many stock investors have started to switch to investing in the cryptocurrency.

I seconded your idea. We share similar interests in stock market. I don't know how they operate but I am very sure they are very similar to crypto in the sense of fundamental and technical analysis.
I don't know if in the future I might want to invest in stock but the gains here is already trappimg institutional investors from stock market into crypto, this is why bitcoin is sometimes correlated with bitcoin market. Corona March crash came into my mind Cry

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Quote from: Midy on May 13, 2021, 12:21:48 AM

For stock investing I haven't learned or bought stocks, so for now cryptocurrency investing for me is still superior to stock investing, since bitcoin and altcoin prices have gone up like crazy, many stock investors have started to switch to investing in the cryptocurrency.

Pretty much agreed with this. Stocks are for boomers. Crypto has the real gains. The world is not what it used to be anymore. The time has changed. Stocks gain how much at best? %7? These are rookie numbers. Dogecoin went up by like what? 10000%? Now that's what I am talking about. That's how you make money. Now defi is also a thing, the whole stocks market will probably operate on ETH anyway. Why resist the tech? Those stubborn boomers have to die because they are going nuts on crypto lately. We won't have a crypto based economy any time soon unless the retarded boomers disappear.

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Quote from: nightrider on May 23, 2021, 04:10:46 AM

Stocks are considered as the oldest financial market. in the world. While cryptocurrencies are an emerging market, they have the potential to be wildly lucrative. These two markets have many similar characteristics and are both financial investment channels worth considering. Stock exchanges have a much longer trading history than cryptocurrency exchanges and therefore the level of market development is also higher. So I would choose stocks over cryptocurrencies.

But, after the recent dump the bitcoin market had, I have seen people leaving the crypto and it was quite heart breaking. At telegram we have a group of friends and like-minded people who discuss what we should do next and the day when Bitcoin reached $32k, almost 8-10 people left the group and I messaged them to see what happened, I got to know that all of them decided to never trade/invest in crypto ever again.

I tried to explain them that it is normal and happens every now and then and the market will recover but what one of them said made perfect sense, he said, if a coin/asset loses 50% value within days, chances are it is being manipulated by a big whale or a group of whales and a small trader cannot survive in such a manipulated market.

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Quote from: nightrider on May 23, 2021, 04:10:46 AM

Stocks are considered as the oldest financial market. in the world. While cryptocurrencies are an emerging market, they have the potential to be wildly lucrative. These two markets have many similar characteristics and are both financial investment channels worth considering. Stock exchanges have a much longer trading history than cryptocurrency exchanges and therefore the level of market development is also higher. So I would choose stocks over cryptocurrencies.

So you mean you are not investing in crypto and just doing trading in stocks? then what are you doing here? Bounty Hunting for living and does not care about the crypto market?
you are nothing to be care for crypto if that is your stand and best to go away and leave this community , we don't need people that does not support crypto trading and investing over stock exchange.

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