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October 11, 2021, 08:17:30 AM
Bitcoin is solid and the volatility been experienced is as a result of human factors!  The greed and fear is big component of trading and as such,  it can not  be regulated nor control!  There are whale who control the market as well as Cryptocurrency is a decentralized market which is the main attraction for those that want such a market. 
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October 10, 2021, 05:00:09 PM
The point is to create the impression and all the conditions so that as many people as possible would want to part with their bitcoins due to fear, and then, having bought them, drive the price up, creating another excitement and fear of a different kind that people will not have time to jump into the last carriage, fear of lost profits.



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Cryptocurrency being a subject of speculation and its trend is determined by the level of demand and supply are the reason why volatile, so I won't blame anyone for manipulating the market. This is the reason why every trend showcase by the market provides a new experience to professional traders.
Which why naive and newbies are advised to seek knowledge first because crypto is not for lazy people.

It is definitely the supply and demand why the pumps and dumps are happening in the market. It cannot be blamed to anyone because supply and demand are affected by the quantity of coins, the capacity and decisions of all participants in the market where such decisions can be influenced by trends, influencers or any other available information. Thus, market manipulation in this case is subject to our submission to the aforementioned.
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As in trading most of the cases are due to the news, when some great trader make a tweet about the coins it is pump, and another way is that when a great investors invest in that coin it is pumped. So, we can predict the coins prices only but we can't say anything 100% that it would definitely reach to its price that we had predicted.
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Logic is always in the money. The crypto market is very young and extremely volatile, it is obvious that here, having large funds, you can find a whole field for manipulation.
Look how the exchanges play dirty, knock out stops in one direction or another, liquidate a huge number of positions. What for? Money.
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It is very difficult for us to stop whales,
It is not possible to stop the whales and either will like it or not the whales are needed in the market.


Therefore
we often see coins that do not have a clear function suddenly pump, or some new projects that suddenly rise very high once they are listed
on exchanges.
It not very coin that experience suddenly pump after exchange listing happen through market manipulation or done by the whales.

Whales do like to play with small investors, in order to make a profit.
We can't say they play with small investors by cashing out their profits but most small investors are too lazy because about 96% of them are inexperienced.

This is why it is important to learn a lot when deciding to invest in cryptocurrencies, because a lot of manipulation occurs in the crypto world.
And that's why cryptocurrency prices are so volatile, no wonder even professional traders never stop learning, although he proved successful
in generating large profits. Because the changing trend in crypto is quite fast and we have to be able to deal with it. I agree that most small
investors are lazy to learn and inexperienced, they only expect signals from other people. Therefore, many small investors ended up
experiencing losses.
Cryptocurrency being a subject of speculation and its trend is determined by the level of demand and supply are the reason why volatile, so I won't blame anyone for manipulating the market. This is the reason why every trend showcase by the market provides a new experience to professional traders.
Which why naive and newbies are advised to seek knowledge first because crypto is not for lazy people.
sr. member
Activity: 1666
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It is very difficult for us to stop whales,
It is not possible to stop the whales and either will like it or not the whales are needed in the market.


Therefore
we often see coins that do not have a clear function suddenly pump, or some new projects that suddenly rise very high once they are listed
on exchanges.
It not very coin that experience suddenly pump after exchange listing happen through market manipulation or done by the whales.

Whales do like to play with small investors, in order to make a profit.
We can't say they play with small investors by cashing out their profits but most small investors are too lazy because about 96% of them are inexperienced.

This is why it is important to learn a lot when deciding to invest in cryptocurrencies, because a lot of manipulation occurs in the crypto world.
And that's why cryptocurrency prices are so volatile, no wonder even professional traders never stop learning, although he proved successful
in generating large profits. Because the changing trend in crypto is quite fast and we have to be able to deal with it. I agree that most small
investors are lazy to learn and inexperienced, they only expect signals from other people. Therefore, many small investors ended up
experiencing losses.
hero member
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First, people thinking BTC will reach $100K as the OP said is a dream that wont come true and I have said before though it can happen in the next halving.

Yes, it a power thing for the wealthy people to make profit for themselves but if the wealthy did not join the crypto investment, common people will also manipulate the market so it not proper for us to blame the whales or institutional investors for manipulating the market and what we ought to do is make use of their decision to profit ourselves because the problem of manipulation happen through the market been a subject of speculation.
Waaaaay before whales came in to play, waaaay before all these Elon Musk and all that, didn't we have manipulation? We still had a lot of it, we have seen crypto rich people to manipulate the markets like crazy. Hell just before the BCH thing price moved from 700 to 3k+ and after that it became 20k, and right during BCH vs BSV fight the price reached to 3.5k, so they were capable of making it go up, and make it go down at the same time, they had that power, these are crypto whales and they were controlling the market. What happened? We ended up buying more and more and we allowed them to manipulate us.

Now, there are fiat whales who are getting interested and they are manipulating, let them manipulate, the market is great and we are making a great profit whenever it goes up, whatever happens between bulls are what sellers should care about, I only accumulate so I don't mind.
Whales manipulation is something we can do nothing about it but use it as a weapon for our own gain.

If you understand my point very well, you will see that I have once said the problem was the market been a content of speculation and right before the existence of Elon etc in the crypto market we have already had some whales that market price manipulate although whales may not be rank as whales now.
It is very difficult for us to stop whales,
It is not possible to stop the whales and either will like it or not the whales are needed in the market.


Therefore
we often see coins that do not have a clear function suddenly pump, or some new projects that suddenly rise very high once they are listed
on exchanges.
It not very coin that experience suddenly pump after exchange listing happen through market manipulation or done by the whales.

Whales do like to play with small investors, in order to make a profit.
We can't say they play with small investors by cashing out their profits but most small investors are too lazy because about 96% of them are inexperienced.
hero member
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This is only a cycle on crypto so need to stress. You can utilize tradingview to quantify the volume of siphon versus the landfill since the bull run start, You will see there that the sum practically close which support my theory. My point is that you can't have a clue about the expectations of individuals who are selling or purchasing anytime, consequently you can't clarify dumps or siphons.
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Price manipulation occurs in both small and major currencies, with some instances involving a single market participant.
In all cases of “dump and pump” events involving Bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies, spot volumes rise above the average seen on exchanges. The price of cryptocurrency drops or rises rapidly as a result of the occurrences.
After investing in cryptocurrencies, investors may see huge trades on exchanges with "thin books," or exchanges with little liquidity, where a large amount of cryptocurrency is completed.
This is a sign that market manipulation is taking place in order for investors to profit quickly. By selling large amounts of assets on the spot market, manipulators take advantage of the thin order book.
sr. member
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First, people thinking BTC will reach $100K as the OP said is a dream that wont come true and I have said before though it can happen in the next halving.

Yes, it a power thing for the wealthy people to make profit for themselves but if the wealthy did not join the crypto investment, common people will also manipulate the market so it not proper for us to blame the whales or institutional investors for manipulating the market and what we ought to do is make use of their decision to profit ourselves because the problem of manipulation happen through the market been a subject of speculation.
Waaaaay before whales came in to play, waaaay before all these Elon Musk and all that, didn't we have manipulation? We still had a lot of it, we have seen crypto rich people to manipulate the markets like crazy. Hell just before the BCH thing price moved from 700 to 3k+ and after that it became 20k, and right during BCH vs BSV fight the price reached to 3.5k, so they were capable of making it go up, and make it go down at the same time, they had that power, these are crypto whales and they were controlling the market. What happened? We ended up buying more and more and we allowed them to manipulate us.

Now, there are fiat whales who are getting interested and they are manipulating, let them manipulate, the market is great and we are making a great profit whenever it goes up, whatever happens between bulls are what sellers should care about, I only accumulate so I don't mind.
Whales manipulation is something we can do nothing about it but use it as a weapon for our own gain.

If you understand my point very well, you will see that I have once said the problem was the market been a content of speculation and right before the existence of Elon etc in the crypto market we have already had some whales that market price manipulate although whales may not be rank as whales now.

It is very difficult for us to stop whales, because whales have a lot of money, so it is very easy for whales to manipulate the market. Therefore
we often see coins that do not have a clear function suddenly pump, or some new projects that suddenly rise very high once they are listed
on exchanges. Whales do like to play with small investors, in order to make a profit. Therefore, we should not panic easily when the price drops
suddenly, maybe if there is no FUD it's whales who do it. Likewise with coins that suddenly rise even though there is no good news, the whales
did it too. We must be careful when investing, always do research and analysis before deciding to enter the market.
legendary
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...Any expert can explain the reason behind those huge pump and dumped of BTC?

Institutional investors receive such a profit on the cryptocurrency market that it is impossible to get on the stock exchange, due to the fact that it is regulated. Here they can dump and pump any coin with impunity, which allows them to buy at a low price and sell at a high price.
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First, people thinking BTC will reach $100K as the OP said is a dream that wont come true and I have said before though it can happen in the next halving.

Yes, it a power thing for the wealthy people to make profit for themselves but if the wealthy did not join the crypto investment, common people will also manipulate the market so it not proper for us to blame the whales or institutional investors for manipulating the market and what we ought to do is make use of their decision to profit ourselves because the problem of manipulation happen through the market been a subject of speculation.
Waaaaay before whales came in to play, waaaay before all these Elon Musk and all that, didn't we have manipulation? We still had a lot of it, we have seen crypto rich people to manipulate the markets like crazy. Hell just before the BCH thing price moved from 700 to 3k+ and after that it became 20k, and right during BCH vs BSV fight the price reached to 3.5k, so they were capable of making it go up, and make it go down at the same time, they had that power, these are crypto whales and they were controlling the market. What happened? We ended up buying more and more and we allowed them to manipulate us.

Now, there are fiat whales who are getting interested and they are manipulating, let them manipulate, the market is great and we are making a great profit whenever it goes up, whatever happens between bulls are what sellers should care about, I only accumulate so I don't mind.
Whales manipulation is something we can do nothing about it but use it as a weapon for our own gain.

If you understand my point very well, you will see that I have once said the problem was the market been a content of speculation and right before the existence of Elon etc in the crypto market we have already had some whales that market price manipulate although whales may not be rank as whales now.
legendary
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First, people thinking BTC will reach $100K as the OP said is a dream that wont come true and I have said before though it can happen in the next halving.

Yes, it a power thing for the wealthy people to make profit for themselves but if the wealthy did not join the crypto investment, common people will also manipulate the market so it not proper for us to blame the whales or institutional investors for manipulating the market and what we ought to do is make use of their decision to profit ourselves because the problem of manipulation happen through the market been a subject of speculation.
Waaaaay before whales came in to play, waaaay before all these Elon Musk and all that, didn't we have manipulation? We still had a lot of it, we have seen crypto rich people to manipulate the markets like crazy. Hell just before the BCH thing price moved from 700 to 3k+ and after that it became 20k, and right during BCH vs BSV fight the price reached to 3.5k, so they were capable of making it go up, and make it go down at the same time, they had that power, these are crypto whales and they were controlling the market. What happened? We ended up buying more and more and we allowed them to manipulate us.

Now, there are fiat whales who are getting interested and they are manipulating, let them manipulate, the market is great and we are making a great profit whenever it goes up, whatever happens between bulls are what sellers should care about, I only accumulate so I don't mind.
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The main reason bitcoin gets a pump and dump is that wealthy people love to get into things and take control of it, so they do not like it when they get into something and we all have power to change the price, if we want it to go up but they do not want it? They will end up dropping the price no matter how much it costs them, which is why I think they manipulate the market not just because they can, but because they really want to, it is a power thing for them.
First, people thinking BTC will reach $100K as the OP said is a dream that wont come true and I have said before though it can happen in the next halving.

Yes, it a power thing for the wealthy people to make profit for themselves but if the wealthy did not join the crypto investment, common people will also manipulate the market so it not proper for us to blame the whales or institutional investors for manipulating the market and what we ought to do is make use of their decision to profit ourselves because the problem of manipulation happen through the market been a subject of speculation.

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The main reason bitcoin gets a pump and dump is that wealthy people love to get into things and take control of it, so they do not like it when they get into something and we all have power to change the price, if we want it to go up but they do not want it? They will end up dropping the price no matter how much it costs them, which is why I think they manipulate the market not just because they can, but because they really want to, it is a power thing for them.

Think about it you are a billionaire, you have a lot of money and then some very poor people end up together and destroy your money? That is just not going to be accepted by them. Look at what WSB subreddit did to companies like Citadel, they just destroyed it yet Citadel just keeps going, even while mathematically known that they will lose, they still end up doing it over and over again.
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The reason for the pump and dump in the market by market manipulators is that there's no way to enforce a regulation since it's a decentralized market after all meaning that everyone can do what they are doing if they have the money without any consequences. A little price to pay for decentralized market.
right, everyone can do it, as long as they have big capital and a loyal community. Moreover, if he is a person who has a strong influence, so that many followers will follow his words, from here he can facilitate his actions to encourage the realization of these goals. Their main goal I believe is to earn big profits, and they don't seem to care about the development of cryptocurrencies
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The reason for the pump and dump in the market by market manipulators is that there's no way to enforce a regulation since it's a decentralized market after all meaning that everyone can do what they are doing if they have the money without any consequences. A little price to pay for decentralized market.
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Market manipulation is repeated with emotion, psychology and the crowd repeat what they do many times. 90% of people in the crowd don't change and they are target of influencers and manipulators.
This reminds me of an old man named Pareto who accidentally discovered a miraculous phenomenon: 80% of social wealth is owned by 20% of people, while the remaining 80% only owns 20% of wealth. This is the famous "Pareto Law", also known as the " the 80-20 rule".
In the crypto world, only a few people are the ultimate winners. Cool
And the sad reality is that the 20% available to the 80% of people is being slowly taken away by the 20% who own 80% of the wealth.

Let's understand things a bit to see what's happening.

Whales have a massive amount of money and they want to juice out some more from the smaller fishes. The only way to do this is by creating a tension in the ocean that water is soon going to be dried and people will move out of the ocean may survive and a lot of small fish will move out. This is what actually happens in the crypto market as well. Once small traders (fish) feel the market is crashing, they will sell their coins at loss and exit the market making the whale traders even richer and stronger than before.

The small traders who hold strong become bigger and the game continues until either the whale is broken into pieces just like what happened with the GameStop saga or the small traders bleed out to death.
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Greeting BT Users,

As I am involved in the crypto world for the past 3-5 years and closely watching BTC when its price was around $400 - $700. When the BTC first pumped in 2017/2018 than it creates chaos in the whole world and more and more users are attracted because of the profit they see, but when the price suddenly down and BTC dumped to $5000 from $20k then a lot of new as well as experience users lost their money and also trust from Cryptocurrency.

Recently BTC again pumped and the price reached $60k and was predicted to touch the target of $100k but again the BTC price dumped around $35k - $38k. From all this pump and dumped I did not yet UNDERSTAND that why and how this happens and the difference is huge. BTC is considered the king of the crypto world and it causes the price Pump and Dumped of all the coins. Also Crypto market is untrustable as any person having a status/huge bank balance can easily manipulate the market as Elon Musk did.

Any expert can explain the reason behind those huge pump and dumped of BTC?
Just look at the chart, same pattern applies on the previous history of pump and dump of btc price. It's really surprising to see, and I believed we're about to see more opportunities coming. That's sounds unpredictable, but we need to be determined in order to become successful within the long periods of time.
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