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Topic: [CryptoNight] CPU mining guide & coins that will get you a return - page 6. (Read 16062 times)

sr. member
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starting mining with cpu i will follow this thread
sr. member
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Thanks for the feedback!
I mine CN coins since October with one of my rigs (4x Vega 56) and have around 7.6 KH.
If I put this number on whattomine right now (current diff) I get: 148.8 ETN Daily (so with the pool luck-factor (35%) ~ 200.9 ETN)
If I put this number on cryptunit right now I get: 297.6 ETN Daily

whattomine is quite accurate from what I get... cryptunit is way to high.

e.g. IPBC is very accurate from the values cryptunit shows and what I get.

Cheers

What is the actual amount of ETN you have been getting with your rig ? Are they 10-15% close to whattomine says it is?
newbie
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What kind of differences are you seeing? When I mined ETN I was getting about 10-15% less compared with the estimates but this may be due to a fluctuating hash rate or/and difficulty.
This always happens. It is impossible to predict 100% what will be the result of the operation of your equipment. It is impossible even to foresee how long it will be possible to use this algorithm for mining using GPU. So I think we should discuss the topic of protecting coins from asics more. Without that, everything else doesn't make sense.

Yes, I agree that's why I'm asking Bhaal1 what differences is he seeing. Maybe he configured something in a wrong manner like a wrong fixed/starting difficulty.

I think there are enough threads in this sub-forum about AISCs and the disadvantages they bring, let's keep this thread on topic - CN CPU minable coins.

Thanks for the feedback!
I mine CN coins since October with one of my rigs (4x Vega 56) and have around 7.6 KH.
If I put this number on whattomine right now (current diff) I get: 148.8 ETN Daily (so with the pool luck-factor (35%) ~ 200.9 ETN)
If I put this number on cryptunit right now I get: 297.6 ETN Daily

whattomine is quite accurate from what I get... cryptunit is way to high.

e.g. IPBC is very accurate from the values cryptunit shows and what I get.

Cheers
sr. member
Activity: 616
Merit: 279

What kind of differences are you seeing? When I mined ETN I was getting about 10-15% less compared with the estimates but this may be due to a fluctuating hash rate or/and difficulty.
This always happens. It is impossible to predict 100% what will be the result of the operation of your equipment. It is impossible even to foresee how long it will be possible to use this algorithm for mining using GPU. So I think we should discuss the topic of protecting coins from asics more. Without that, everything else doesn't make sense.

Yes, I agree that's why I'm asking Bhaal1 what differences is he seeing. Maybe he configured something in a wrong manner like a wrong fixed/starting difficulty.

I think there are enough threads in this sub-forum about AISCs and the disadvantages they bring, let's keep this thread on topic - CN CPU minable coins.
sr. member
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I think cryptunit calculates ETN wrong.
Its way off compared to whattomine and what I tested the last days whattomine (adding 35% for the pool-luck factor) is far more realistic.
I tested on nanopool and spacepools.

Any thoughts?

Cheers

What kind of differences are you seeing? When I mined ETN I was getting about 10-15% less compared with the estimates but this may be due to a fluctuating hash rate or/and difficulty.
This always happens. It is impossible to predict 100% what will be the result of the operation of your equipment. It is impossible even to foresee how long it will be possible to use this algorithm for mining using GPU. So I think we should discuss the topic of protecting coins from asics more. Without that, everything else doesn't make sense.
sr. member
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I think cryptunit calculates ETN wrong.
Its way off compared to whattomine and what I tested the last days whattomine (adding 35% for the pool-luck factor) is far more realistic.
I tested on nanopool and spacepools.

Any thoughts?

Cheers

What kind of differences are you seeing? When I mined ETN I was getting about 10-15% less compared with the estimates but this may be due to a fluctuating hash rate or/and difficulty.
newbie
Activity: 80
Merit: 0
I think cryptunit calculates ETN wrong.
Its way off compared to whattomine and what I tested the last days whattomine (adding 35% for the pool-luck factor) is far more realistic.
I tested on nanopool and spacepools.

Any thoughts?

Cheers
sr. member
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Merit: 279
At the moment I've mined ITNS and DCY, then for a potentially good upcoming coin I'm mining PinkStar,
as per your 1st post at an average of 150Hs you should get around 900 PNKS per 24Hrs

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-new-pinkstarcoin-pnks-cryptonight-cryptonote-2723196

Ok, I have added it to the main post. Smiley The current estimate says you can get 1200 tokens/day with that hash rate, even better Cheesy

This one looks interesting, I see it has some activity on BCT.

Let's hope it's going to be a winner in the long run.

As for mining Software I use XMR-Stack although I have used Xmrig but defo get better Hs with XMR-Stack, Xmrig is availble for 32bit aswell whereas XMR-Stack i'snt which maybe a advantage to some, but I guess it all depends on the PC you have and your own preference.

There is some nice GUI software but its only in Beta so is a little buggy and you may need to uninstall and reinstall to get it working ok, thats called Sumo Easy Miner, the default is setup for sumo mining but you can add in your own pools to mine other coins, if you where too mine more than one coin at a time you can select how many cores you want to use per coin which is quite cool, hope a update for it comes along soon

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-sumo-easy-miner-01b13-the-most-intuitive-gui-miner-ever-created-2163270

What kind of hash rate difference did you see when comparing XMRig with XMR-Stak ?
newbie
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As for mining Software I use XMR-Stack although I have used Xmrig but defo get better Hs with XMR-Stack, Xmrig is availble for 32bit aswell whereas XMR-Stack i'snt which maybe a advantage to some, but I guess it all depends on the PC you have and your own preference.

There is some nice GUI software but its only in Beta so is a little buggy and you may need to uninstall and reinstall to get it working ok, thats called Sumo Easy Miner, the default is setup for sumo mining but you can add in your own pools to mine other coins, if you where too mine more than one coin at a time you can select how many cores you want to use per coin which is quite cool, hope a update for it comes along soon

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-sumo-easy-miner-01b13-the-most-intuitive-gui-miner-ever-created-2163270
newbie
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I'm really confused about ByteCoin (BCN). Half of the people here seem to despise it and tell me to stay far away from it. But it looks like it's doing alright. I only know a little bit about the story behind bytecoin too.



I was also put off  with Bytecoin after reading up here but I suppose it doesnt hurt to hedge your bets so I may start digging,

I know this thread is about Cryptonight coins but could I ask has anyone any opinion about the Yescrypt coins, sorry to slightly go off topic but they are only for CPU mining
newbie
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At the moment I've mined ITNS and DCY, then for a potentially good upcoming coin I'm mining PinkStar,
as per your 1st post at an average of 150Hs you should get around 900 PNKS per 24Hrs

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-new-pinkstarcoin-pnks-cryptonight-cryptonote-2723196
sr. member
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I hope that most of the new coins will be ignored by the ASICS crowd as they'd be able to fuck it all up in seconds. On the bright side, most of the cryptonote devs I've seen who've posted are fairly anti ASICS.

Indeed, they are anti-ASIC, that's why I chose this algorithm for CPU mining in the first place Smiley 
At the time I created this thread, CryptoNight coins were not minable with ASICs (or at least it wasn't known yet that it's possible) and now that someone has found a way to do it, the majority will hard fork to maintain the ASIC resistance.  Cool

To keep everything back on topic, what coins are you mining with your CPU? Smiley
hero member
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I doubt they will start mining the coins I have listed here with ASICs and it seems the coin developers have started to hard fork in order to introduce ASIC resistance.

Like I said in other threads, I doubt the small trade volume coins with survive the ASICs.

I hope that most of the new coins will be ignored by the ASICS crowd as they'd be able to fuck it all up in seconds. On the bright side, most of the cryptonote devs I've seen who've posted are fairly anti ASICS.
sr. member
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Yes I understand that, but what I was saying is to avoid having all minners on the same pool. By the way this pool get down and here is what happened:
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Luckypool is back online now however this has raised an important issue we currently have. We have gone 45 minutes without a block as the majority of the hashing power was in luckypool so that when it went down, the network didn't have enough power to find a block until one of the other underpowered pools finds a block and the difficulty can adjust. The more we spread the power among the pools, the better it is for our network Smiley

Here's the full list of pools:
- http://cryptoknight.cc/haven/
- https://mineallcrypto.com/pool?symbol=XHV
- https://haven.miner.rocks/
- https://xhv.luckypool.io/
- https://monerise.com/?pool=haven
- http://youpool.io/XHV/

Thank you!

Ok, I see what you mean now. It's a good point. Thanks for sharing!

I recommend the use of pay pools. They are more powerful and there are no scammers. But now you need to start looking for other algorithms. If you do get X3 Antminer on the cryptonight mining algorithm using GPU will be forgotten. The first deliveries are scheduled for mid-may. You don't have much time left. May be better to look for other options?

I doubt they will start mining the coins I have listed here with ASICs and it seems the coin developers have started to hard fork in order to introduce ASIC resistance.

Like I said in other threads, I doubt the small trade volume coins with survive the ASICs.
sr. member
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I recommend the use of pay pools. They are more powerful and there are no scammers. But now you need to start looking for other algorithms. If you do get X3 Antminer on the cryptonight mining algorithm using GPU will be forgotten. The first deliveries are scheduled for mid-may. You don't have much time left. May be better to look for other options?
jr. member
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KRB will be dead because of  marketing absence.   Great idea, great project, honest Devs, but needs good marketing
newbie
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I've used xhv.luckypool.io at first because it was where all minners were, but now that there are more minners on http://cryptoknight.cc I've switched to it and it has 0% fee. For now it seems I'm getting more XHV per day on this one. But at the end it should be equivalent. It's more to have at least 2 large pool than a big one.

I usually don't recommend joining 0% fee pools because they either have bad uptime or they steal your good shares.

When it comes to the effort used to mine a block by the pool, I have been lucky in the past on smaller pools and mined blocks with 20-40% effort and got the rewards fast but once you get a few 200% effort blocks (which will happen sooner than you think) all that advantage will be lost.

Yes I understand that, but what I was saying is to avoid having all minners on the same pool. By the way this pool get down and here is what happened:
Quote
Luckypool is back online now however this has raised an important issue we currently have. We have gone 45 minutes without a block as the majority of the hashing power was in luckypool so that when it went down, the network didn't have enough power to find a block until one of the other underpowered pools finds a block and the difficulty can adjust. The more we spread the power among the pools, the better it is for our network Smiley

Here's the full list of pools:
- http://cryptoknight.cc/haven/
- https://mineallcrypto.com/pool?symbol=XHV
- https://haven.miner.rocks/
- https://xhv.luckypool.io/
- https://monerise.com/?pool=haven
- http://youpool.io/XHV/

Thank you!
sr. member
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I've used xhv.luckypool.io at first because it was where all minners were, but now that there are more minners on http://cryptoknight.cc I've switched to it and it has 0% fee. For now it seems I'm getting more XHV per day on this one. But at the end it should be equivalent. It's more to have at least 2 large pool than a big one.

I usually don't recommend joining 0% fee pools because they either have bad uptime or they steal your good shares.

When it comes to the effort used to mine a block by the pool, I have been lucky in the past on smaller pools and mined blocks with 20-40% effort and got the rewards fast but once you get a few 200% effort blocks (which will happen sooner than you think) all that advantage will be lost.
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Great.

But you should mention another pool like http://cryptoknight.cc/haven/ with 0% fee. xhv.luckypool.io is a good one too but the majority of minners are on it which is not a good thing for crypto.

I've selected that pool because it's more popular and it has more miners on it. I have tried multiple pools in the past but it seems that you get more consistent results when you join large pools. Not to mention the importance of the pool having a high uptime.

From what I've seen until now, mining on a pool that has a lot of members is not a bad thing at all, especially when resolving a block takes more than 100% effort to be resolved.
Another good point is that blocks are found very fast - about 4 min on luckpool.io rather than 4h on cryptoknight.cc
Of course, the block reward will be split between more users but I think it's a good compromise.

What was your experience with pools?

I've used xhv.luckypool.io at first because it was where all minners were, but now that there are more minners on http://cryptoknight.cc I've switched to it and it has 0% fee. For now it seems I'm getting more XHV per day on this one. But at the end it should be equivalent. It's more to have at least 2 large pool than a big one.
sr. member
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Great.

But you should mention another pool like http://cryptoknight.cc/haven/ with 0% fee. xhv.luckypool.io is a good one too but the majority of minners are on it which is not a good thing for crypto.

I've selected that pool because it's more popular and it has more miners on it. I have tried multiple pools in the past but it seems that you get more consistent results when you join large pools. Not to mention the importance of the pool having a high uptime.

From what I've seen until now, mining on a pool that has a lot of members is not a bad thing at all, especially when resolving a block takes more than 100% effort.
Another good point is that blocks are found very fast - about 4 min on luckpool.io rather than 4h on cryptoknight.cc
Of course, the block reward will be split between more users but I think it's a good compromise because there will be more blocks.

What was your experience with pools?
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