CryptoNote technical discussion and Chess Challenge - page 7.

boolberry

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Current position
Based on the votes in this thread Team Monero has chosen to play Nc3+. Now it is time for Team Boolberry to respond. I will plan to count votes again tomorrow at approximately 0:00 UTC.

white to move

Team Boolberry (white pieces) vs. Team Monero (black pieces)
Game 2 PGN:

Code:

1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 g6 3.c4 Bg7 4.Nc3 O-O 5.e4 d6 6.Be2 e5 7.d5 a5 8.Bg5 h6 9.Be3 Na6 10.h3 Nh5 11.Qd2 Nf4 12.O-O-O Nxg2 13.Bxh6 Bxh6 14.Qxh6 Qf6 15.Kb1 Nf4 16.Nd2 Nc5 17.h4 a4 18.h5 Qg7 19.Qg5 a3 20.b3 f6 21.Qg3 g5 22.Rdg1 Qh7 23.Bg4 Bxg4 24.Qxg4 c6 25.Qf5 Qxf5 26.exf5 Kh7 27.Nde4 Nxe4 28.Nxe4 cxd5 29.cxd5 Kh6 30.Rd1 Ra5 31.Nxd6 Rxd5 32.Rxd5 Nxd5 33.f3 Nc3+

XMRpromotions

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Nc3+: 4 votes (XMRChina, mathgal23, newb4now, XMRpromotions)

newb4now

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Nc3+: 3 votes (XMRChina, mathgal23, newb4now)

If you can't wait another day to see the candidates tournament, I recommend watching game 2 or 6 of women's world championship;

mathgal23

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Nc3+: 2 votes (XMRChina, mathgal23)

We should have good chances to win this game!

XMRChina

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Nc3+: 1 vote (XMRChina)

boolberry

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Current position
Based on the votes in this thread Team Boolberry has chosen to play f3. Now it is time for Team Monero to respond. I will plan to count votes again tomorrow at approximately 0:00 UTC.

black to move

Team Boolberry (white pieces) vs. Team Monero (black pieces)
Game 2 PGN:

Code:

1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 g6 3.c4 Bg7 4.Nc3 O-O 5.e4 d6 6.Be2 e5 7.d5 a5 8.Bg5 h6 9.Be3 Na6 10.h3 Nh5 11.Qd2 Nf4 12.O-O-O Nxg2 13.Bxh6 Bxh6 14.Qxh6 Qf6 15.Kb1 Nf4 16.Nd2 Nc5 17.h4 a4 18.h5 Qg7 19.Qg5 a3 20.b3 f6 21.Qg3 g5 22.Rdg1 Qh7 23.Bg4 Bxg4 24.Qxg4 c6 25.Qf5 Qxf5 26.exf5 Kh7 27.Nde4 Nxe4 28.Nxe4 cxd5 29.cxd5 Kh6 30.Rd1 Ra5 31.Nxd6 Rxd5 32.Rxd5 Nxd5 33.f3

GoldTiger69

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Quote from: tifozi on March 09, 2016, 06:54:37 PM

Quote from: GoldTiger69 on March 09, 2016, 06:40:15 PM

Quote from: tifozi on March 09, 2016, 06:33:59 PM

I hope someone does change. f3 is simply giving control away in the very next move.

It's gaining control of our Rook, I already explained how.

Ka1 is not a good position for King when it should be moving to the right. See @letsplayagame's last comment for a hint. It does not gain control of Rook from your explanation, but far more damaging is sequestering the King in a file and now black Rook will come into play and pin things further.

What you don't see is that Ka1 is unavoidable, just think about it, please.

And, would you care to explain me how our Rook wont be freed? You said "It does not gain control of Rook from your explanation", can you explain why?

tifozi

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Quote from: GoldTiger69 on March 09, 2016, 06:40:15 PM

Quote from: tifozi on March 09, 2016, 06:33:59 PM

I hope someone does change. f3 is simply giving control away in the very next move.

It's gaining control of our Rook, I already explained how.

Ka1 is not a good position for King when it should be moving to the right. See @letsplayagame's last comment for a hint. It does not gain control of Rook from your explanation, but far more damaging is sequestering the King in a file and now black Rook will come into play and pin things further.

GoldTiger69

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Quote from: tifozi on March 09, 2016, 06:33:59 PM

I hope someone does change. f3 is simply giving control away in the very next move.

It's gaining control of our Rook, I already explained how.

tifozi

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I hope someone does change. f3 is simply giving control away in the very next move.

boolberry

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Quote from: languagehasmeaning on March 09, 2016, 05:05:22 AM

Quote from: tifozi on March 08, 2016, 11:57:51 PM

f3: 2 votes (GoldTiger69, LucyLovesCrypto)
Nxb7: 1 vote (Morecoin)
Nb5: 2 votes (boolberry,tifozi)

f3: 2 votes (GoldTiger69, LucyLovesCrypto)
Nxb7: 2 votes (Morecoin, languagehasmeaning)
Nb5: 2 votes (boolberry,tifozi)

Unless the vote changes, f3 will win 39 minutes from now after application of the tiebreaker rule (it reached 2 votes first)

Quote from: ArticMine on October 03, 2015, 02:53:01 PM

We need a tie breaking mechanism. For example one can look at the result before the vote that led to the tie and use that instead.

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Quote from: tifozi on March 08, 2016, 11:57:51 PM

f3: 2 votes (GoldTiger69, LucyLovesCrypto)
Nxb7: 1 vote (Morecoin)
Nb5: 2 votes (boolberry,tifozi)

f3: 2 votes (GoldTiger69, LucyLovesCrypto)
Nxb7: 2 votes (Morecoin, languagehasmeaning)
Nb5: 2 votes (boolberry,tifozi)

tifozi

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f3: 2 votes (GoldTiger69, LucyLovesCrypto)
Nxb7: 1 vote (Morecoin)
Nb5: 2 votes (boolberry,tifozi)

I think we should move King instead to protect the pawns on the right (f,g,h)

LucyLovesCrypto

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Quote from: GoldTiger69 on March 08, 2016, 09:55:59 PM

Quote from: boolberry on March 08, 2016, 09:01:10 PM

Quote from: Morecoin Freeman on March 08, 2016, 08:38:13 PM

What about Nxb7? Will that work? We grab the pawn but we are not improving our position. Undecided

f3: 1 vote (GoldTiger69)
Nxb7: 1 vote (Morecoin)

I like the idea of f3 (to free our rook) but am scared of 32.f3 Nc3+ 33. Ka1 Ne2

I love extra pawns but our rook and King are still stuck after 32.Nxb7 Rc8

How about 32.Nb5 with the goal of capturing a3 instead of b7? At least our king would not feel as trapped in the corner afterwards.

Quote from: letsplayagame on March 08, 2016, 07:40:34 AM

The key to this endgame is piece activity. Good luck to both teams.

This seems more like general advice than advice for this move, but it is still something to think about.

f3: 1 vote (GoldTiger69)
Nxb7: 1 vote (Morecoin)
Nb5: 1 vote (boolberry)

Tbh, I don't see a problem with 32.f3 Nc3+ 33. Ka1 Ne2 then 34.Ne4. We are gonna have our Rook free.

f3: 2 votes (GoldTiger69, LucyLovesCrypto)
Nxb7: 1 vote (Morecoin)
Nb5: 1 vote (boolberry)

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Quote from: boolberry on March 08, 2016, 09:01:10 PM

Quote from: Morecoin Freeman on March 08, 2016, 08:38:13 PM

What about Nxb7? Will that work? We grab the pawn but we are not improving our position. Undecided

f3: 1 vote (GoldTiger69)
Nxb7: 1 vote (Morecoin)

I like the idea of f3 (to free our rook) but am scared of 32.f3 Nc3+ 33. Ka1 Ne2

I love extra pawns but our rook and King are still stuck after 32.Nxb7 Rc8

How about 32.Nb5 with the goal of capturing a3 instead of b7? At least our king would not feel as trapped in the corner afterwards.

Quote from: letsplayagame on March 08, 2016, 07:40:34 AM

The key to this endgame is piece activity. Good luck to both teams.

This seems more like general advice than advice for this move, but it is still something to think about.

f3: 1 vote (GoldTiger69)
Nxb7: 1 vote (Morecoin)
Nb5: 1 vote (boolberry)

Tbh, I don't see a problem with 32.f3 Nc3+ 33. Ka1 Ne2 then 34.Ne4. We are gonna have our Rook free.

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Quote from: Morecoin Freeman on March 08, 2016, 08:38:13 PM

What about Nxb7? Will that work? We grab the pawn but we are not improving our position. Undecided

f3: 1 vote (GoldTiger69)
Nxb7: 1 vote (Morecoin)

I like the idea of f3 (to free our rook) but am scared of 32.f3 Nc3+ 33. Ka1 Ne2

I love extra pawns but our rook and King are still stuck after 32.Nxb7 Rc8

How about 32.Nb5 with the goal of capturing a3 instead of b7? At least our king would not feel as trapped in the corner afterwards.

Quote from: letsplayagame on March 08, 2016, 07:40:34 AM

The key to this endgame is piece activity. Good luck to both teams.

This seems more like general advice than advice for this move, but it is still something to think about.

f3: 1 vote (GoldTiger69)
Nxb7: 1 vote (Morecoin)
Nb5: 1 vote (boolberry)

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Quote from: Morecoin Freeman on March 08, 2016, 08:38:13 PM

What about Nxb7? Will that work? We grab the pawn but we are not improving our position. Undecided

f3: 1 vote (GoldTiger69)
Nxb7: 1 vote (Morecoin)

Nxb7 is a very good move, but it can be done latter

I mean, the b pawn is going nowhere Wink

and the problem by doing it now is 33... Nc3+ 34.Ka1 Ne4 harassing our f pawn and we ain't gonna be able to defend it because our Rook is already protecting the h pawn and file 1, so we will loose the f pawn if we don't move it now Sad

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What about Nxb7? Will that work? We grab the pawn but we are not improving our position. Undecided

f3: 1 vote (GoldTiger69)
Nxb7: 1 vote (Morecoin)

GoldTiger69

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f3: 1 vote (GoldTiger69)

tifozi

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Quote from: letsplayagame on March 08, 2016, 07:40:34 AM

Nxd5: 2 votes (newb4now, letsplayagame)

This may be my last post for several weeks. The key to this endgame is piece activity. Good luck to both teams.

My schedule does not allow time for any distractions right now, but you can expect my return by early next month. Depending on several factors I may decide to reveal my identity when I return. Whether that happens or not I do have some ideas to help Monero and plan to contribute more in the future.

Good luck in the tournament

We are rooting for you. Cool

I will be stoked if my prediction is right Grin

Quote from: tifozi on December 07, 2015, 09:30:23 AM

I just saw the thread Lets play a game of Chess. It's fascinating to see @letsplayagame (who I suspect is GM Aronian) interested in crypto (BTC and allegedly aware of privacy focused technologies).

Let's pitch an idea of BTC vs CryptoNote chess match to him

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