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cwil

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Quote from: cwil on October 12, 2023, 06:18:14 PM

Would you mind explaining the results of the following bets?

869601854
869602054
869602352
869602473

The result of bet id 869601854 is as follows:

Code:

{
"id": 869601854,
"game": "Roulette (EU)",
"slot_name": null,
"slug": "roulette-eu",
"slot_slug": null,
"slot": 0,
"currency": "BTC",
"options": {
"20": "10.000",
"66": "10.000",
"67": "10.000",
"89": "10.000",
"101": "10.000",
"124": "10.000",
"125": "10.000",
"135": "10.000",
"136": "10.000"
},
"data": [
26,
[]
],
"payout": "0.00",
"amount": "0.003362466992",
"profit": "-0.003362466992",
"hide_bets": 0,
"username": "Acer64",
"xp": "900.00000000",
"datetime": "12 Oct 2023 22:18:22",
"avatar": "8",
"avatar_bg": "f34135",
"avatar_builder": 1,
"server_seed": "2ca25f3eeb0cce84690cbad69c61a991101135d8d795e3821cfda55251bb8e1d",
"client_seed": "d64b8399a89512",
"reveal": 1,
"nonce": 2,
"server_seed_hash": "e4fb55e2493e8cca556690c91bd22d1050a83dd6c50c328fb111d5ceeb9efd5f"
}

The first value of the data array is 26, and this is the value recorded as having been the result of this Roulette game.

At https://cryptoplay.io/help/fairness, the following code is available to check your provably fair implementation:

Code:

$seed = hash_hmac('sha512', 'my server seed', 'my client seed'.':'.'my nonce');
$seed = hexdec(substr($seed,0,10));
$roulette_number = $seed % 37;

return $roulette_number;

I wrote the following Node.js adpation of the PHP code:

Code:

const crypto = require('crypto');
const hex = crypto.createHmac('sha512', 'd64b8399a89512:2').update('2ca25f3eeb0cce84690cbad69c61a991101135d8d795e3821cfda55251bb8e1d').digest('hex').substring(0, 10);
const res = parseInt(hex, 16) % 37;
console.log(res);

This code indicates the result of the game should have been 21, which would have been a winning result for this particular game.

The results of the next bet in this series, bet id 869601961, follows:

Code:

{
"id": 869601961,
"game": "Roulette (EU)",
"slot_name": null,
"slug": "roulette-eu",
"slot_slug": null,
"slot": 0,
"currency": "BTC",
"options": {
"20": "10.000",
"66": "10.000",
"67": "10.000",
"89": "10.000",
"101": "10.000",
"124": "10.000",
"125": "10.000",
"135": "10.000",
"136": "10.000"
},
"data": [
8,
[]
],
"payout": "0.00",
"amount": "0.003362466992",
"profit": "-0.003362466992",
"hide_bets": 0,
"username": "Acer64",
"xp": "900.00000000",
"datetime": "12 Oct 2023 22:18:28",
"avatar": "8",
"avatar_bg": "f34135",
"avatar_builder": 1,
"server_seed": "2ca25f3eeb0cce84690cbad69c61a991101135d8d795e3821cfda55251bb8e1d",
"client_seed": "d64b8399a89512",
"reveal": 1,
"nonce": 3,
"server_seed_hash": "e4fb55e2493e8cca556690c91bd22d1050a83dd6c50c328fb111d5ceeb9efd5f"
}

We see here that the reported result of this bet is 8 and can confirm that result with the code written above.

Lastly, it's noted that this behavior disappears once below a certain bet threshold. For instance, the bets in this post are all around $90 and a winning bet was never seen in a sequence of 10 bets that should have had about a 25% chance of having some return. Of course 4/10 bets actually did return, the casino just misreported the actual outcome. This behavior was not seen at bets closer to $10.

I assert that this casino is fraudulently marking winning bets as losses in a very obvious and easily confirmable way. For that reason, I am leaving a flag.

komisariatku

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Quote from: Little Mouse on October 13, 2023, 10:59:17 PM

Quote from: Reatim on October 13, 2023, 10:25:55 PM

Quote from: shasan on October 13, 2023, 01:59:49 PM

They might have no funds to continue the campaign.

Whatever their reason is? it is the company's decision to make and we can only speculate to what is the true reason behind ,

This is not really good to speculate such things which may have a negative impact on their reputation. Such speculation is totally unnecessary. They have their team to handle what to do or what not to do. They expect feedback on the product/casino here so they can build a better product.

Honestly, at first I thought they would campaign here for a long time, but maybe they have another strategy and need to make improvements. I hope they will return to this forum. I think they have found the right manager for their campaign. LM is very active and trustworthy, this is my personal statement, not because I am campaigning with him.

I also saw sherbet stop their campaign several times and they come back to the forums. After all, this is a business, there needs to be an effective strategy so as not to waste money. If they need to pause the campaign to evaluate and improve, that's not a problem

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Quote from: AndriesW. on October 14, 2023, 12:23:45 AM

Everyone is free to express his own opinion, but this does not mean that it is true.
Do I think it is necessary to answer why I stopped the Signature Campaign?
It is not stopped permanently, we will resume it at another time.
Unfortunately, the feedback and statistics so far have not been according to our expectations.
We are thinking about new promotions for Bitcointalk members that I hope to finalize and launch next week.
So the main reason why we stopped is that the ROI did not come close to our target.

it is good that OP is constantly answering those inquiries and indeed that there is no need to explain from your part , your company and your rules and decisions.
also good to hear that you are still planning to run that ads though takes time to evaluate.

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Quote from: Little Mouse on October 13, 2023, 10:59:17 PM

Quote from: Reatim on October 13, 2023, 10:25:55 PM

Quote from: shasan on October 13, 2023, 01:59:49 PM

They might have no funds to continue the campaign.

Whatever their reason is? it is the company's decision to make and we can only speculate to what is the true reason behind ,

This is not really good to speculate such things which may have a negative impact on their reputation. Such speculation is totally unnecessary. They have their team to handle what to do or what not to do. They expect feedback on the product/casino here so they can build a better product.

Yes, I think that as users we should not need to do unnecessary speculation, because only the company knows the reasons, so we must really respect every decision, or maybe they might want to create another campaign because the previous campaign did not reach their target. so they had to make slight changes to their campaign to achieve what they were targeting. so just wait for confirmation from them it will be better.

Don't ever compare it to other big casinos on this forum of course they have more money than casinos that are still very new to being promoted on this forum, the point is to keep encouraging them with feedback in this thread discussing and discussing their casinos will be better seen rather than discussing their campaign. Wink

AndriesW.

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Everyone is free to express his own opinion, but this does not mean that it is true.
Do I think it is necessary to answer why I stopped the Signature Campaign?
It is not stopped permanently, we will resume it at another time.
Unfortunately, the feedback and statistics so far have not been according to our expectations.
We are thinking about new promotions for Bitcointalk members that I hope to finalize and launch next week.
So the main reason why we stopped is that the ROI did not come close to our target.

Little Mouse

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Quote from: Reatim on October 13, 2023, 10:25:55 PM

Quote from: shasan on October 13, 2023, 01:59:49 PM

They might have no funds to continue the campaign.

Whatever their reason is? it is the company's decision to make and we can only speculate to what is the true reason behind ,

This is not really good to speculate such things which may have a negative impact on their reputation. Such speculation is totally unnecessary. They have their team to handle what to do or what not to do. They expect feedback on the product/casino here so they can build a better product.

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Quote from: shasan on October 13, 2023, 01:59:49 PM

Stopping the signature campaign might have various reasons. They might have no funds to continue the campaign. Their users may win as a result they might have a shortage of funds. They might have not received too many engagements as they desired. If they stopped for the result then they made a big mistake. As a marketer, I know how results come on a project. Results come slowly and it is like compound interest.

but if their reason for stopping is having lack of funds thinking that they have started with good numbers of participants and also with decent amount of payments I think there is 2 sentiment on that.

First - conducting advertising such Signature campaign shows the attitude of casino to gain support and players and this also shows their capacity to make people believe of their funds.

Second - They are having assessment if the Campaign si truly helping their brand and product towards the top , and may consider trying other option for their advertising.

Whatever their reason is? it is the company's decision to make and we can only speculate to what is the true reason behind ,

Yaunfitda

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Quote from: khaled0111 on October 13, 2023, 06:17:29 PM

Quote from: panjul07 on October 13, 2023, 09:08:25 AM

Long term campaign is also not a guarantee that it will bring good effect to the casinos, why? Simply because the main product/services/offers provided by the casino is the main important thing to attract gamblers to come-deposit-play-stay.
Signature campaign is just an advertisement tool to make people aware about the existence of the product, but real customers will decide to use it or not after looking deeper at the product.
It means that advertisement can be useless if the product is not attractive enough to gain the interest from customers.

You are right when saying that what matters the most is the quality of the service itself. If the customer is not satisfied with the product he purchased or the service he used he will stop purchasing/using it.
However, when talking about marketing and advertisement, you can not expect much results from running a signature campaign on this forum for a single or few weeks. This will not help you in attracting new customers or building your name.
The campaign manager should have explained this to them. A sig campaign on this forum is not the same as renting a banner on a well known website.

Yeah, a single week of campaign will not get any results of a casino. And if this is their way of measuring it with just a week, then I would say that it's completely wrong. I mean at least have a month and see how it goes for you. They are trying to built their reputation here, same goes with so other crypto based casinos. They are competing here, so they need more exposure using sig campaign. But we really don't know what is the reason, could be they are just pausing it and go back at it again after reading our comments here. I think LM could have explained it to them already, but the decision is still with the casino itself whether to continue here or not and look for other means to promote.

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Quote from: panjul07 on October 13, 2023, 09:08:25 AM

Long term campaign is also not a guarantee that it will bring good effect to the casinos, why? Simply because the main product/services/offers provided by the casino is the main important thing to attract gamblers to come-deposit-play-stay.
Signature campaign is just an advertisement tool to make people aware about the existence of the product, but real customers will decide to use it or not after looking deeper at the product.
It means that advertisement can be useless if the product is not attractive enough to gain the interest from customers.

You are right when saying that what matters the most is the quality of the service itself. If the customer is not satisfied with the product he purchased or the service he used he will stop purchasing/using it.
However, when talking about marketing and advertisement, you can not expect much results from running a signature campaign on this forum for a single or few weeks. This will not help you in attracting new customers or building your name.
The campaign manager should have explained this to them. A sig campaign on this forum is not the same as renting a banner on a well known website.

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Quote from: shasan on October 13, 2023, 01:59:49 PM

Quote from: TheUltraElite on October 13, 2023, 02:44:35 AM

Firstly I wish all the best for the new casino. Hope the project sees new highs and no lows and zero complaints.

I took part in the signature campaign which ran for only a week and have some stuff to rant about.

Casinos has existed in the bitcoin ecosystem since it was started as a basic means of spending those coins at the lack of other places to spend. Casinos like Primedice/Stake, Fortunejack, back in those days Rollin, Just-Dice and Yolodice (to name a few) all run campaigns at length because they understood the potential of onboarding new and potential members on their site through this forum. In fact campaigns started with Primedice and its sister site Stake is running its campaign at full force throughout the forum now.

Other types of marketing work but this forum is full of users who are earning coins and they need places to spend them and thus the success of the campaigns.

I understand that CryptoPlay's administration and marketing may have different expectations and unique methods of marketing that we are yet to see and bounty manager @Little Mouse would have already explained these things in detail, just my 2sats.

Have a great day everyone

Stopping the signature campaign might have various reasons. They might have no funds to continue the campaign. Their users may win as a result they might have a shortage of funds. They might have not received too many engagements as they desired. If they stopped for the result then they made a big mistake. As a marketer, I know how results come on a project. Results come slowly and it is like compound interest.

Totally agreeing into this sentiment on which it is really that indeed true that results wont or cant really be seen on just a few weeks or 1 week of signature campaign kind of promotion on which they have decided on stopping it just because they havent seen any significant numbers when it comes to sign up or engagement on which it would really be that not shocking specially on a new platform.
Somehow i do agree with those points above that even long time running campaign or marketing doesnt really guaranteed out positive results or outcomes. We do understand that marketing fund is limited and this is why if we do see that they have stopped the campaign then possible reasons could really be just only two reasons which lack of funds or simply stopped because its pointless
for it to be continued to do so.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on October 11, 2023, 06:18:04 PM

Display and visibility do play a major role, no matter if it is related to playing gambling games or display of the gambling site signatures across multiple platforms.

Usually, gamblers will prefer to gamble on desktop devices or laptops and may not want to gamble on mobile devices due to their small screen. It sometimes becomes difficult to focus while gambling on a mobile phone and that is the main reason why we see gambling sites not much interested in the development of their gambling site apps.

You are sure of having a better user experience with the gambling site themes and features while using a laptop or desktop campared to using a mobile phone certain features may look unappealing but with a laptop the difference in quality is normally clear. The convenience with gambling using a laptop is something that any gambling that started his gambling journey with the use of laptop won't gamble with much interest if he has to use a mobile phone later on and that's why many gamblers would prefer the use of laptop to phone despite that with phone you can gamble at any spot you find yourself since it's mobile and handy in size to a laptop.

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Quote from: TheUltraElite on October 13, 2023, 02:44:35 AM

Firstly I wish all the best for the new casino. Hope the project sees new highs and no lows and zero complaints.

I took part in the signature campaign which ran for only a week and have some stuff to rant about.

Casinos has existed in the bitcoin ecosystem since it was started as a basic means of spending those coins at the lack of other places to spend. Casinos like Primedice/Stake, Fortunejack, back in those days Rollin, Just-Dice and Yolodice (to name a few) all run campaigns at length because they understood the potential of onboarding new and potential members on their site through this forum. In fact campaigns started with Primedice and its sister site Stake is running its campaign at full force throughout the forum now.

Other types of marketing work but this forum is full of users who are earning coins and they need places to spend them and thus the success of the campaigns.

I understand that CryptoPlay's administration and marketing may have different expectations and unique methods of marketing that we are yet to see and bounty manager @Little Mouse would have already explained these things in detail, just my 2sats.

Have a great day everyone

Stopping the signature campaign might have various reasons. They might have no funds to continue the campaign. Their users may win as a result they might have a shortage of funds. They might have not received too many engagements as they desired. If they stopped for the result then they made a big mistake. As a marketer, I know how results come on a project. Results come slowly and it is like compound interest.

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Quote from: OcTradism on October 13, 2023, 03:28:56 AM

Signature campaigns can not bring effect if only running in one or a few weeks. It needs to be a long run campaign to have effect but it is challenging for a new casino like any new business. They can have a budget for marketing but they only can run sustainable marketing if budget for it not only comes from the team pocket but also from profit of their business. When their business gets profit, they can use part of profit for marketing and I am sure it is how big casinos do.

They get effects from their long run campaigns and they reuse business profit for their campaign prolongs.

Long term campaign is also not a guarantee that it will bring good effect to the casinos, why? Simply because the main product/services/offers provided by the casino is the main important thing to attract gamblers to come-deposit-play-stay.
Signature campaign is just an advertisement tool to make people aware about the existence of the product, but real customers will decide to use it or not after looking deeper at the product.
It means that advertisement can be useless if the product is not attractive enough to gain the interest from customers.

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Quote from: TheUltraElite on October 13, 2023, 02:44:35 AM

Firstly I wish all the best for the new casino. Hope the project sees new highs and no lows and zero complaints.

I took part in the signature campaign which ran for only a week and have some stuff to rant about.

Casinos has existed in the bitcoin ecosystem since it was started as a basic means of spending those coins at the lack of other places to spend. Casinos like Primedice/Stake, Fortunejack, back in those days Rollin, Just-Dice and Yolodice (to name a few) all run campaigns at length because they understood the potential of onboarding new and potential members on their site through this forum. In fact campaigns started with Primedice and its sister site Stake is running its campaign at full force throughout the forum now.

Other types of marketing work but this forum is full of users who are earning coins and they need places to spend them and thus the success of the campaigns.

I understand that CryptoPlay's administration and marketing may have different expectations and unique methods of marketing that we are yet to see and bounty manager @Little Mouse would have already explained these things in detail, just my 2sats.

Have a great day everyone

You are correct, you can add Bustadice, Bitdice or even Nitro and Betcoin.ag if I'm not mistaken, but the latter has signature campaigns, and has rebranded itself. And just like signature campaigns in the bitcoin mixer field, it's very touch niche, and yet they still have campaigns here and just like the remaining crypto based casinos. I wasn't able to get into the gamble though, but I was surprised to see it just ran for 1 week. Nevertheless, I do hope that Crypoplay.io being a new player in this community will consider to have their signature campaign continue as they have tournaments and many marketing that can really help them if they are going to be exposed here thru sig campaigns.

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Quote from: TheUltraElite on October 13, 2023, 02:44:35 AM

Firstly I wish all the best for the new casino. Hope the project sees new highs and no lows and zero complaints.

I took part in the signature campaign which ran for only a week and have some stuff to rant about.

Casinos has existed in the bitcoin ecosystem since it was started as a basic means of spending those coins at the lack of other places to spend. Casinos like Primedice/Stake, Fortunejack, back in those days Rollin, Just-Dice and Yolodice (to name a few) all run campaigns at length because they understood the potential of onboarding new and potential members on their site through this forum. In fact campaigns started with Primedice and its sister site Stake is running its campaign at full force throughout the forum now.

Other types of marketing work but this forum is full of users who are earning coins and they need places to spend them and thus the success of the campaigns.

Signature campaigns can not bring effect if only running in one or a few weeks. It needs to be a long run campaign to have effect but it is challenging for a new casino like any new business. They can have a budget for marketing but they only can run sustainable marketing if budget for it not only comes from the team pocket but also from profit of their business. When their business gets profit, they can use part of profit for marketing and I am sure it is how big casinos do.

They get effects from their long run campaigns and they reuse business profit for their campaign prolongs.

TheUltraElite

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So anyway, I applied as a merit source :)

Firstly I wish all the best for the new casino. Hope the project sees new highs and no lows and zero complaints.

I took part in the signature campaign which ran for only a week and have some stuff to rant about.

Casinos has existed in the bitcoin ecosystem since it was started as a basic means of spending those coins at the lack of other places to spend. Casinos like Primedice/Stake, Fortunejack, back in those days Rollin, Just-Dice and Yolodice (to name a few) all run campaigns at length because they understood the potential of onboarding new and potential members on their site through this forum. In fact campaigns started with Primedice and its sister site Stake is running its campaign at full force throughout the forum now.

Other types of marketing work but this forum is full of users who are earning coins and they need places to spend them and thus the success of the campaigns.

I understand that CryptoPlay's administration and marketing may have different expectations and unique methods of marketing that we are yet to see and bounty manager @Little Mouse would have already explained these things in detail, just my 2sats.

Have a great day everyone

cwil

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Would you mind explaining the results of the following bets?

869601854
869602054
869602352
869602473

AndriesW.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on October 11, 2023, 06:18:04 PM

Quote from: Wiwo on October 11, 2023, 06:07:25 PM

Quote from: SquirrelJulietGarden on October 11, 2023, 12:47:04 PM

Quote from: xLays on October 11, 2023, 11:55:22 AM

I also checked it on my mobile phone and see that we got the same result.

It is good to know it is your issue but in my opinion, visually it is not a big problem. At least I see small differences in visual displays on mobile and PC.

It is not like a big part of signature can not display on mobile like some signature designs show so this design is good to use. It still fully shows but perhaps you want to have perfection with no strike in signature display on mobile.

These have been discussed ussed in several topics before, I can't point to any of those now, but as long as visuality is concerned the screen of the device and its configurations play a significant role in what makes up for the best of the display some screed are HD while other are led screen all this is only present on the PC, although we may also have such screen resolution with mobile devices but then I like playing of PC since it offers more trying games experience along the line.

Between, we have to always be in touch with both versions to get the best results and at some point be able to meet up with the demands, in the case where we are not getting the best in one of the versions be or PC or mobile device.

Display and visibility do play a major role, no matter if it is related to playing gambling games or display of the gambling site signatures across multiple platforms.

Usually, gamblers will prefer to gamble on desktop devices or laptops and may not want to gamble on mobile devices due to their small screen. It sometimes becomes difficult to focus while gambling on a mobile phone and that is the main reason why we see gambling sites not much interested in the development of their gambling site apps.

Usually, if you want to bet or gamble on mobile, you can only do it through the mobile browser as in most cases you will not find a dedicated app for this purpose.

We also have a version for mobile, it is not really an application but you can add Cryptoplay to the screen. Google Chrome is used and the search bar disappears. When you enter cryptoplay.io from your mobile, a notification appears asking if you want to add Cryptoplay to the screen.

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Quote from: Wiwo on October 11, 2023, 06:07:25 PM

Quote from: SquirrelJulietGarden on October 11, 2023, 12:47:04 PM

Quote from: xLays on October 11, 2023, 11:55:22 AM

I also checked it on my mobile phone and see that we got the same result.

It is good to know it is your issue but in my opinion, visually it is not a big problem. At least I see small differences in visual displays on mobile and PC.

It is not like a big part of signature can not display on mobile like some signature designs show so this design is good to use. It still fully shows but perhaps you want to have perfection with no strike in signature display on mobile.

These have been discussed ussed in several topics before, I can't point to any of those now, but as long as visuality is concerned the screen of the device and its configurations play a significant role in what makes up for the best of the display some screed are HD while other are led screen all this is only present on the PC, although we may also have such screen resolution with mobile devices but then I like playing of PC since it offers more trying games experience along the line.

Between, we have to always be in touch with both versions to get the best results and at some point be able to meet up with the demands, in the case where we are not getting the best in one of the versions be or PC or mobile device.

Display and visibility do play a major role, no matter if it is related to playing gambling games or display of the gambling site signatures across multiple platforms.

Usually, gamblers will prefer to gamble on desktop devices or laptops and may not want to gamble on mobile devices due to their small screen. It sometimes becomes difficult to focus while gambling on a mobile phone and that is the main reason why we see gambling sites not much interested in the development of their gambling site apps.

Usually, if you want to bet or gamble on mobile, you can only do it through the mobile browser as in most cases you will not find a dedicated app for this purpose.

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Quote from: SquirrelJulietGarden on October 11, 2023, 12:47:04 PM

Quote from: xLays on October 11, 2023, 11:55:22 AM

I also checked it on my mobile phone and see that we got the same result.

It is good to know it is your issue but in my opinion, visually it is not a big problem. At least I see small differences in visual displays on mobile and PC.

It is not like a big part of signature can not display on mobile like some signature designs show so this design is good to use. It still fully shows but perhaps you want to have perfection with no strike in signature display on mobile.

These have been discussed in several topics before, I can't point to any of those now, but as long as visuality is concerned the screen of the device and its configurations play a significant role in what makes up for the best of the display some screed are HD while other are led screen all this is only present on the PC, although we may also have such screen resolution with mobile devices but then I like playing of PC since it offers more trying games experience along the line.

Between, we have to always be in touch with both versions to get the best results and at some point be able to meet up with the demands, in the case where we are not getting the best in one of the versions be or PC or mobile device.

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