Topic: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action - page 120. (Read 1006931 times)

....It took them over a year to "report" the "hack."

Yeah, right.

I thought BitJohn said here on this topic they never got a controller for PayCoin.

Did they scam ?
I would have to say yes.

It's a bit complicated to explain it all evidence wise but the provable obvious parts are enough.

Such as them admitting they were "hacked" and their behavior from the claimed hack date
vs the duration they stayed open silent about it.

It to me is the equivalent of a major bank coming out an saying..
Oh hey shit world, sorry we forgot to lock the vault and the front door and we were cleared out.

BitJohn for example among others there had stated their security practices were pretty much bullet proof.
Cold storage etc etc..

Now what we were told was that a malicious update was added to a coin hosted on Github.
And the "Wallet Guy" who mysteriously vanished responsible for the adding and maintenance of "Daemons" for Cryptsy apparently said he simply downloaded a pre-compiled binary of the virus wallet.
When his job was compiling them.. AND CHECKING THE CODE.
And apparently they HAD to have been lying about cold storage because.. the coins were stolen  

And Vern bought himself a million dollar mansion AFTER he later said he was hacked.
If you knew you were hacked and the bank vault was emptied why would you do that ?

The more you frame it all and put it into context their story just seems like silly bullshit.

YEAH "they" stole the money = SCAMMERS (Vern cold not have done this on his own)

I am willing to bet Mullick and JShock were well aware of the scam operation.
It would have been impossible for the higher up guys to do the tech support with out seeing 12 million in coins gone

THEN !
We found out that BigVern & JShock already had a loooooong bad history BEFORE Cryptsy.
What ?
A porn advertising company where they pretend to be customers of it etc.
And a Penny auction site called "Foopile" where there is a track record of customers claiming they were ripped off.

I am probably forgetting about some of it so feel free to fill in the blanks guys  

They scammed! It was verified on page 429, which up to then was still hope.

430 pages, can someone please tell me if they scammed?

Tomorrow's lesson will be on Mark Karpeles with the final exam centered around some dude named Satoshi Nakamoto. Now, time for a pop quiz: Who are Leroy Fodor, Michael Zinck and Chantha Owen Lueung? Bonus question: Who or what eats cigarette butts?

Humor aside, the name Baritus just appeared on my radar for the first time a few posts up, CC-.

Homero "Josh" Garza: CEO of GAWMiners & ZenMiner; Self-proclaimed "Hash King" and Paycoin Mad-genius, (not a Dev) / Hashlet Ponzi $20m scammer.

He sold / gave / coerced Cryptsy into running one of their hyper-staking Paycoin (XPY) "Prime Controllers" so Craptsy was complicit too.

Do a simple search on BCT for GAWMiners or Garza and the topics that come up will open your eyes!

 
 

Who is garza ive never heard of that till now.

Garza WAS an obvious scammer from day 1 because he was claiming to mine altcoins and unable to prove it using blockchains.

Just like Cryptsy was obviously insolvent because they couldn't allow people to withdraw their coins.

It's ok that you got ripped off, but refusing to admit your mistakes will not help you learn to avoid that situation in the future.

Welcome to the club, CableGuy. Your coins be gone matey

Sounds about right

"Though this be madness, yet there is method in't."

Can anyone cliff note? Did cryptsy scam?

As I've alluded to above, I'm beginning to think that Richard Kwan and Lucas Tulloch (aka ethought) is the same guy.

http://web.archive.org/web/20041127130645/http://www.ethought.com.au/

http://www.business.com.au/ethought-australia/

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS549US549&q=%22PO+BOX+205%2C+Unley+BC%22&oq=%22PO+BOX+205%2C+Unley+BC%22&gs_l=serp.3..35i39k1.2839.5478.0.5792.2.2.0.0.0.0.184.344.0j2.2.0....0...1c.1.64.serp..0.1.184.QmHIsK81NLk


chrysophylax and ethought are both from Adelaide.

This is gonna come as a shock to you, but I'm leaning heavily toward believing you, and have no qualms with you being in Marshall's camp (so to speak) in spite of my strong convictions.

Taxing my memory, I think I pushed you (for lack of a better term) before, but backed off because I felt you were/are a relatively good guy.

Your last two posts (quoting the second one below for prosperity in case you go rogue  ) came across as sincere even when you take away the good words directed toward me, of which thanks, BTW.

With that outta the way, there's another name I've connected to ethought, namely Lucas Tulloch along with his kin, perhaps, Carlos Tulloch (Carlo Tulloch on his passport) who may still be in Cambodia.

Later, Vlad, and thanks for setting the record straight [once again].

Since I'm being honest I might as well get it all out.

I've seen the stuff you dug up on Marshall Long and it shut me up cause it looks really bad but on a personal level I'm
Gonna take the personal risk of endorsing the guy anyway.  This might end up hurting me later but I like and respect very few people in crypto and Marshall is one of them so I feel guilty not standing up for him.

I don't give a shit about all the allegations - even though they look really bad, I worked [briefly] with Marshall and he blew me away.  I'd pay big money [if I had it] to have that guy on my team.  I'd back him any day if it ever mattered. 

That's the truth.  That's how I feel about that. 

Since cryptsy robbed me of all my coins (left me with about 8 btc out of hundreds) I do little research on any coins.  I had no idea DGC had any drama after Baritus left and I assumed their investors were legit.  This is all news to me.

And my comment where I said "this is an important piece of the puzzle" I wasn't endorsing coinexchange.io, I was referring to their online wallet cause IXC badly needed one and I thought I could get them to fund it.  Other than that I was simply letting the community know about the exchange at a time when IXC couldn't get listed anywhere.

Gleb, I think you and Spoetnik are legit and are doing a thankless job - and I respect you guys for that.

Let me tell you that I ain't done jack shit scammy stuff in crypto - my rep and IXC were too valuable to sell out for any money.  Garza offered me $32k to make a single and legal statement about the paycoin bamebrand (after I took over that project) and I refused simply on principle cause I felt it was a community brand and not any lead dev's right, and let me tell you, it was just days after I lost everything, I didn't even have a car, any money or a place to live. 

Few people in crypto would show that kind of convictions so it really pisses me off when I see shitheads like Hippie Tech vomitting lies.  And that "leaked Garza" email came from another source that hacked me but I let it go.  You guys dig all you want - I've always taken the hit for the small guy and passed up big money to keep a good rep. 

And no, garza was not an obvious scammer from day one.  I thought he was just irresponsible and a power tripper.  He had legit backers and was involved with legit exchanges and sponsoring big legit events. 

You and Spoetnik don't bother me at all cause I know you're looking for the truth, the other guys can suck my big dick 43 times.  Gotta top your 42.  Haha.

Rock on, brothers!!!

Saw Mark Vernon taking pics with some chicks from a cosplay meetup lol

I'm not versed in the Vlad + Garza connection nor the Baritus fiasco. In the last 24 hours I've learnt about Joshua Moon and Kiwi Farm though, along with Richard Kwan and Francisco Dias, the latter whom hosts this forum, the former who runs coinexchange.io, both friends for years. I can't shake the notion that Dias may be part of the team supposedly rebuilding BitcoinTalk. Something smells fishy, more so than what's swimming in Owen's duckweed pond.

Wasn't vlad in talks with joshua garza (listed in email leaks) on paycoin namesake and coin buyouts etc? I remember suchmoon's topic raising this and many vlad replies about paycoin going way higher in price etc. Crytpsy was involved in garza's prime controller gift and bullshit and i remember vlad being vocal in paycoin which doesn't add much strength to his views in scam busting. Paycoin was clearly a scam from the onset.

Well i DO think Vlad misses out on a lot that happens around Crypto.
I don't think he recalls all the various topics + drama with BCX + DGC dev Baritus.
It went down a few times in ALT-Main and the biggest most recent aspect to the drama was..
That Baritus claimed an associate had hacked him and stole his DGC coins and dumped them.
BCX had outlined how the story did not add up and i agreed it WAS in fact fishy.
Then later it was said that Baritus had left the project and again BCX was suspicious this was true.
And one again i agreed with BCX.
As i said back then it's a pity because i never had a bad thing to say about Baritus.
That drama that unfolded seemed like he got caught red handed scammin'
I kept saying just come clean and we will forgive you and drop it and move on..
I simply wanted to see the guys name restored and the drama resolved.
But Baritus stuck to this guns.. to this day.

And Ahmed ? LOL
Yeah last i seen he is STILL alone on Cryptsy's IRC channel
And get this long after the Cryptsy Drama the IRC main OP went back on and changed the MOTD.
Even though this person told me he runs it and will NEVER EVER go back to the IRC channel and retired from Crypto.
Yup.. BitJohn
Meanwhile before and after Ahmed has been on that channel for about 3 years straight 24/7.
..with the channel OP BitJohn etc

So anyway i dunno just some random observations
Any time i have brought up bad news from the past Vlad seems to have a bad recollection of it.
Not sure why.. simply a lack of activity to notice it etc ? I think so.. he don't like drama LOL
@Vlad
Fair enough.. what you just said about Cryptsy being brought back is in fact a worthy distinction !
A big difference between reviving Cryptsy as is.. vs having a community take over of sorts on it.

I smell more drama though guys.. i am off to make more GRAVY