Topic: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action - page 117. (Read 1006940 times)

You have any pics of Shockney's wife naked?  

Seriously, you have any insight as to who DCGirl is? Feel free to PM me a clue that you think I can follow if by happenstance you do but feel it prudent to keep such close to the vest.

Hey guys, sorry I ran out for a minute.

o0o0 - I learned a very valuable and harsh lesson with Cryptsy. I would run for the fucking hills if I thought a new place of work was shady. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. I know it's cliche but it is awfully fitting.

As far as receiver sharing information - They are very open. You can call them and speak with them and they will probably tell you the same to be honest. I get what youre saying, but they are decent, open guys. Weird to have some transparency about finally.

As far as Bitjohn, I called him bitjohn, He did not have his ID in system unless HR had it.  to be 100% honest, Im not 100% sure of his real name. It could be John Hammes, or it could have been a false name. I really don't know.

If you guys have more questions, I'd be happy to answer for my stuff, I can't really speak on behalf of other past employees.

I will say Bitjohn left , didnt tell me why he left and put me in charge of PR, so Im a little bitter about that.

The day I threatened to resign online, I got a call like an hour later saying they had to let me go hahah, or more appropriately.....HAHAHAHA 

Hey, horus, can you confirm that BitJohn is John Hammes?

I will say im getting tired of this doing my job statement bs. Cryptsy had problems for ages and many many many people questioned it in the troll box whilst horus, dcgirl, jshock everyone else there wouldn't even for a second think on their own.

I will say this horus that these "tech" problems occured for a very very very long time and you hung on when an average person would would have distanced.

My question is more of a personal one and relates to how you would treat customers in future of another job that raised things that could be fishy... would it continue to be just my job? I always hated the cryptsy crew click.

DCgirl knows a lot more than she said and ran off after the heat on the forum was on her and she replied a little. I keep hearing there were others working in cryptsy involved that were never mentioned but nobody not even you horus have mentioned it. Its always just i'll check with our techs.

What updates did your techs give? Surely they couldn't feed you its a problem we are working on it for 4 weeks and believe it when this is a major apparent exchange business?

Dude, you keep this up and I'll have less bitcoiners to have the red-ass for. What next! BitJohn? Don't you have munchies to eat or something better to do?  

Meanwhile, here's the dude who owns coinexchange.io:



http://www.articlesfactory.com/author/Lucas+Tulloch.html

http://web.archive.org/web/20071208155040/http://ideas.tc/

ethought IS Lucas Tulloch.

I buckin' for 314 blowjobs if I can successfully connect coinexhange.io with coinexchange.eu. At the moment I kinda have a Minecraft connection between the two.

I got a random PM in advance from Horus about what he posted today guys.
I wished him well and suggested he talk to you all.

I made sure to stress that the community just wants to hear from him.
Even though HippieTech may ride me about it i will say again Horus was always a pretty damn cool guy at Cryptsy in my experience.. the fact he is a fellow Canadian is coincidence LOL

I told Horus i'd lay off him if he posted.
Then i tried to give Gleb some warning that Horus might post etc.

Horus provided us with more info and that is a good thing.
So i will not be jumping down his throat about it.

I agree with Gleb though about a receiver sharing info vs collecting it.. good point.

This turn of events also made me think.. know what people ?
I'd like to see Jim Shockney show up and tell us his version of events.
If he does i will back off him too.
JSHock by all means speak up and tell us what you know about the situation.
It's not like you need to go into lots of detail about it.
Think about it.. it could do you more good than harm i bet.
..unless of course you ARE far more guilty and complicit than we realize  

Granting that I'm versed in these things, is it common practice for a receiver to share valuable information like such that probably would be use in court? I would think that his job would be to extract info oppose to providing it. Then again, such has become public knowledge by him, so I guess I'm mistaken, but enlighten me nonetheless, for I'm clueless.

And your welcome, bud.

I wasn't aware of it until the receiver rep, Patrick Rengstl, told me about it during convos with him. At the time I worked there I had absolutely no idea about it at all.

But yes, according to receiver, he took the "loan" out well before the hack.

I appreciate the civility. Thank you.

Hey folks. I know it has been a long time, but I wanted to finally give an update.


Last time I was on the forum, I had very little idea about what actually went on, so I had no answers for people that were 100% accurate.

The day we saw customer coins go to Bittrex, I knew 100% Paul sent them and was trying to liquidate. It is then I called the receiver. Before I wanted to believe it was a big hack, and that the company I worked for was stupid, but innocent.

After speaking thoroughly with the receiver, I know that wasn't the case. Apparently by the time the "hack" happened, Paul had already drained about 3 million USD out of Cryptsy wallets. I think he was using it as his personal money thinking "Hey, Cryptsy makes good money, let me use this and pay it back as money comes in"  You and I know this is extremely wrong, but it is what I believe happened.

Then came the infamous hack, which in all honesty, I do believe happened. I think once it did, Paul knew he was fucked. He began running on fractional reserves. I am disappointed he hid it, and continued to do business. It would have been better for him to come out and say he fucked up, and figured out a repayment plan. But , instead, he hid it, continued to let the site get shittier and shittier, have customers upset which destroyed all chance of paying people back as he wasn't making money to pay it back.

I was fully cooperative with the receiver ever since I first spoke to him. So much so that I wasn't subpoena'd where everyone else was. I gave them a copy of my lease, access to Canadian bank accounts, and even told them about the account in Canada I didn't have access to, but knew that it existed.

I was able to get Mullick their contact information, as he had datacenter access and knew about most of the wallets and how they worked. When I called receiver first time, they didn't even know what a private key was.

Mullick has been able to recover a good amount of coins, but it is nowhere near what Paul drained. But still, Mullick did work his ass off, as he should have, to recover as much as possible. Paul remotely wiped servers and fled to China, which made things very difficult for the receiver.

I was quiet on forum for so long, because I didn't have real answers at the time and didn't want to spread false information. I could sit and argue with people all day, while none of us knew what happened. Thunderjet was better than myself at blockchain analysis, so I had nothing at the time to contribute, I was in over my head and not able to ACTUALLY prove who did what. So I focused on helping receiver where I could as that was the only thing at the time in my mind that would help get anyone anything back at all. As fucked up as it sounds, I appreciate the work done in the forum here, even if we all butted heads, some very solid evidence came out of it.

I did show the information from the thread to the receiver, and told him the blockchain analysis Gleb and Thunderjet did was legit and they needed to pay attention to it. I gave the receiver absolutely anything I could.

For me, on a personal level, what hurt me the most, was my bosses leaving and not telling me or anyone else that I know of, what was truly up. They left a couple months before shit went really bad and claimed it was other work opportunities, while at the same time putting me on PR duty literally double fucking me.

Because I can't code , nor do I know computer networking, only numbers I could see were ones in admin, and they were all falsified. I saw things coming in and going out, although very very slowly, so I thought maybe it was a tech issue. Obviously I went full retard in believing it.

Also, to clear things up, I was never "Head of Security" or anything like that. I worked in compliance investigations, strictly KYC, AML and Anti terrorist financing, along with some PEP work. As far as me " amassing ID and selling it on darkweb" That is a completely false statement Gleb made and I defy to show one shred of proof showing anything from cryptsy for sale on darkweb. Granted, it is something someone malicious would do, but I did not. I understand why he would think it. The thing that confused people with me and security was the fact that I helped on userend security through support. I helped people get unhacked on their end, setting up 2fa and all that shit. I had nothing to do with site security as I have no idea about actually doing that stuff.

Anyway, I could ramble on forever, but there is no need to. There IS a class action. The receiver was able to recover Paul's new house, an SUV, some computers and office stuff from a storage locker I believe, a diamond ring worth over 100k and some other small things. I know it doesn't cover everything lost, but as far as some people at least getting a bit back, it's not too bad. People need to join the class action.

There is a website for the receivership : www.cryptsyreceivership.com. It lists up to date court documents, contact info for receiver and everything else. In one of the newest documents here : http://cryptsyreceivership.com/v1/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Oct-26-2106-Class-Action-and-Receivership-Settlement-Agreement.pdf   , starting at about page 38, there are application forms for people to get into the class action. It has instructions and everything. I suggest giving all of the documents a good read, some solid info in there.


Did I fuck up by believing my employer? Absolutely. Do I feel like a dick for sending out cease and desists? yes, but it was my job. I was told, these guys are slandering us, send a c&d. Was I told the severity of things? No. It was a shitty scenario all around. Did cryptsy stiff me with bills and paycuts for the last while at the end? Yes. Does that matter? no. I did work there so I didn't deserve to get anything out. Nobody who worked there did, before every last customer was paid in full.

You can read all the reports and maybe get a better idea of what happened in the backend. I do not know 100% if it is only US citizens allowed in suit, but it is worth a shot for anyone to throw whatever they can in. Although 1-2 million is a small amount, it is a victory in what could have been a complete lockout and some people are at least able to get something back. In the reports, it says lawyers can take no more than 33% of the final amount, so there is some money people will get back, but they NEED to join the suit in order to get their share. Even without screenshots, I believe people can "oath" on their amounts and still get in on it. Is it ideal? hell no. Is it better than absolutely nothing? for sure.

Here is the receivers site information : http://cryptsyreceivership.com/court-documents/        On the site you can see the people to contact for the receivership.

Silver Law is running the class action. David Silver can be emailed at [email protected]. I strongly urge everyone to get in touch with them and try to get in on the class action.

Anyway, That is the info I know. I said I would post once I knew 100% what was up. It took a long time, but those reports and talking with the receiver and learning what they knew really helped me understand it, hopefully it does the same for you and others.

Sorry shit went down the way it did, but I know that an apology changes nothing.

Take care.

Yeah, it was more of an analogy.

In lawsuits, only the lawyers really win.

@Roombot

AHhhh you think theymos DID do it

Note:
I created a poll in ALT/Main to ask this very question ROFL  

But i want to point out we were told here by 1 user an unverified claim.
And that is Vern's property is being sold off..

We did hear that there was a receivership going on with Cryptsy many pages back.
Which i believe WAS in fact confirmed.. at least i recall the info posted here appearing to be credible.

So.. there is a difference between a company in receivership and one under investigation and...
A Class Action Lawsuit.
They may not all be linked together or even be real.
I asked that guy to post his source info and he has not come back since.
Mr I am from AUS but in a US class action lawsuit and is privy to info no one else got
..even the guys confirmed in the actual lawsuit. (who heard nothing)

So it's looking like a bullshit story to me about the Mansion, SUV and Ring.

PS:
Rumor has it swat teams are amassing at theymos's door RIGHT NOW !

The Taxman is always given priority over everybody and then other sections of government and then its the creditors as they are like bond holders.   Theres a pecking order, its not arbitrary, its been this way for hundreds of years and unfortunately unless some big union can leverage something its the smallest amounts that lose the most as I understand it.

There should be a diagram showing it all, most commonly recognised is bonds over shares and so on.  Creditors are something close to bond holders Im fairly sure, so if cryptsy owed rent then thats paid well before others Im fairly certain on.  Only when this satisified do others get a cut

Penguin scores again.

I was a claimant in a class action suit. 

I was paid a cash sum but the lawyers got 60% of it first.

Bastards.

So theymos stole the Cryptsy coins ?  

About the lawsuit..
I worked at a kitchen many years ago where the owner walked in and said close the doors.. forever.
I never got my final paycheck or any severance pay etc.

I had to go to a collection meeting of sorts.
I was told by Canadian financial law that the creditors will always have first dibs on any collected money.
Money collected because the Sheriff's had seized the various Kitchen equipment etc and was auctioning it off.
In the end i wound up getting a very small fraction of what i was owed and the banks were paid in full etc.

So i am thinking it would work the same in the USA.

And he did not own the property he had Cryptsy at either as far as i heard so he may owe rent etc on that and the bank etc.
We don't know how much debt "Project Investors" had / has.

Just because they were auctioning off equipment from the restaurant did not mean the small amount of employees were going to all get their money back.
In reality ALL of us only got a small percentage of what we were owed !

Oh and i think it's just common sense to assume that people would need to reside in the same country where the lawsuit was started... i think ! Just guessing
If not you would have to go to the trouble of making special preparations and we have heard none of that happening.

@Vlad
Can you tell us about the distribution of IXC coins ? Major business related holders..

PS:
I am going to ramp up the heat around here boys & girls.. buckle up   

http://whois.domaintools.com/coinexchange.io


Keyword: Voxility

Even if you're a US citizen, the chances are slim that you'll receive a single-digit percentage of what Paul Vernon stole from you, with same true for Cryptsy's other former clients in the US or abroad. For what it's worth, rest assured that BitJohn, Hourus, and Mullick got their moneys out prior to Paul saying 再见，感谢所有的鱼，吸盘！

@Gleb
So If I am not in the US or a US citizen I can't get my money back?

I'd love to hear his explanation how a guy from Australia is in on the class-action lawsuit.

If he is telling the truth then copy and past the part of the message from the lawyer where it says that.
You don't need to reveal any private info just give us what you already posted 20 times but in it's original form.

I can't see how that's even remotely possible whether you're due $3.14 or $10K. Are you telling us that sans touching the bitcoin "hack" account, there's enough moneys to pay everybody everything they're owed from the sale of a house, car, ring, etc. after the lawyers take their cut? If true, it'll be the first time in history a class action suit has satisfied all the claimants INCLUDING THE LAWYERS and other nominal fees.

Pardon me while I review your post history to read what other shit you've said:


Well, that didn't take too long. I found the above post of yours shortly after a post penned by you ordering BFL miners during the timeframe when users were espousing to stay away.

If I'm off-base, please enlighten us on how a non-US-citizen is able to join the class action suit against Cryptsy here in the US like you have. We're sure your reply will be just as entertaining.