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So valuable information we got from you

GZ work

Now i wanna see vernon face 😨


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All cryptos are FIAT digital currency. Do not use.

Can this pathetic joke go on any longer ??  uggh

YUP .. like that day during your IFC pump n dump when I/we had to spell out I-N-S-I-D-E-R-T-R-A-D-I-N-G to BitJohn and others. lolz..

Sooo.. how are your "prometheous group" buddies doin ? Roll Eyes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSTk0muwrkY




https://i.imgur.com/bz6bevp.png


This thread just needs the Ron Burgundy GIF and all is complete.

Back in mid 2014 there was a lot of action from this "Prometheus" group. A pump and dump scamboi that would interest deveopers with the chances of riches, get lots of people to sign NDA's including LOTS of good devs and then use his powers and NDA's to screw and hold people over a barrel. The group works as follows. Prometheus was top then he had promoters or developers that would run their own branches of devs teams as such. If these branches on trial could prove their worth i.e. deveopment and promotion the group would pump the living shit out of a coin. Then on every cycle it was the same, the better work you did the more pumping the group would do including bigger premines. I was never knowily contracted by this group though in mid 2014 I had an interesting talk with an alias "Mindfox". Introduced through Skype, in a breif conversation I was asked if I wanted to introduce extra coins into a chain of one of my coins. At the time many of the POS branch coins did not have a total money supply check. I quickly dismissed the option and shortly after no longer associated with the person who introduced us. I did warn many people of this person through aliases but mostly it fell of deaf ears. In the height of 2014, when the Cryptsy theft took place these guys and their teams were the best developers around. I think digging here would be a good start though rumor has it they have friends in Anon and mafia links so be extremly careful about how you go about it. People caught in the inner circle who were caught in the trap were genuinly scared for their wellbeing.  I think these guys may be the one causing me trouble now but not sure.

I know around that time many developers were requesting client to be run on root also.

Now as for the coins being transferred being a mistake is also possible. I know through conversations early in the day that Paul's security was tight on Cryptsy. Airgapped never conected to internet cold wallets and stupid crazy security to log into systems. This is what for some reason makes me think that they sent it somehow to a wrong address, hence the reason the coins havn't been spent.

Many of the things don't make sense about the "theft". Time to announce, time to withdraw all the coins, the reason, the reasoning, the lack of knowledge, the lack of procedure, Paul buying a million dollar house, trading while theorectically insolvent, staff lies yada yada yada.

I have no coins in Cryptsy, I havnt had a wallet on my PC for over a year but if your going to put that much effort into me, put some that way as well. I know you will have far more luck.

If you find out things and can't put relationships or some thing to gether ask, I may know the link you are missing. It's been a while though I and I only really associated with 2 people directly and worked a lot alone.

I also think analysis of any raw text from the so called hacker checked against git repos and announces would likely yeild some kind of result.

As you dig deeper, if people talk you will soon find out 90% of the public accusations and inappropriate publication of my dox(they were never hidden not just compiled together like that) were wrong.

Regards.

P.S. You can't say  cheese sauce of your a true vegan. Not only do you not eat the cow, you are now mocking it with vegan cheese sauce.

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So valuable information we got from you

GZ work

Now i wanna see vernon face 😨
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Found 2 transactions sent from Cryptsy wallet, after closure on Local Bitcoins addresses.These one-time addresses except Cryptsy, received 2 BTC  big deposits from Bittrex output wallet.This will help to find Cryptsy-Vernon BTC account on Bittrex.


This is first transaction from Cryptsy to Local Bitcoins on 6th.February.2016:

https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/af5ab05c8b5feac979d376484c037ad33b7a9520724c75a703b8efd8d39b32aa








This address on Local Bitcoins - 1EW4RAqhV7gDthVWe26uTy1MhTr39PhBTu at the same time(so,one who sent BTCs from Cryptsy and Bittrex is the same person - Vernon) received 6.9169 BTC from Bittrex output wallet(tracking tx backward which leads to Bittrex output wallet which releases 100 BTC txs by branching ):

https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/02343afc13f970a9

Transaction number:

https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/a1b18efdc38e62ddc02bd3699c649cf6d0d934a3b13080f37b45be9da38b9294










Second transaction from Cryptsy to Local bitcoins(2 x0.1 BTC) was on 15.January.2016:

https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/fc2b062e123c6dfccffe862b51952f085e069bcfb90e31ebed4d19601106a8f2

https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/9d5a3736907981011ce10dc676b221354f538c59baca208ec949cd2063da79c7








This address on Local Bitcoins - 1KfDccV8fXvEFwBy2TqNG1ntnP7B6k2atr  also at the same time(so,one who sent BTCs from Cryptsy and Bittrex is the same person - Vernon) received 9.46 BTC from Bittrex output wallet(tracking tx backward which leads to Bittrex output wallet which releases 100 BTC txs by branching ):

https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/bf1c7ca64a75fda4e1ab72862c27eb1e14f95b8fd947bdd6cda1671a30463369







So,if Bittrex gives informations about the person and account which sent these 3 transactions:


https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/a1b18efdc38e62ddc02bd3699c649cf6d0d934a3b13080f37b45be9da38b9294

https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/bf1c7ca64a75fda4e1ab72862c27eb1e14f95b8fd947bdd6cda1671a30463369

https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/8aa4793a9b2c7c726e06420891d1319de59278aa1b84bf5693ffac0ed93ac83a

we will have much better look at the connection between Cryptsy-Vernon account on Bittrex, hacker Bittrex selling and whole this embezzelment

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Yes, this 33.4 BTC:

https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/5e5861924a5b66766f1b51a5e9ccaae30b532a5ba9a1cce8a48287e5dbbabd9d

goes directly to transitional BTCC China wallet ,which groups incoming BTCs in 100 BTC batches(every output from this wallet is exactly 100 BTC) and sent them to one of BTCC China big wallets:


https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/ecb5e4490a17144aa1c6b2ac55d6dee09c00be13054b2cb5983beb9d17af9837

Wallet address : https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/0029356f7eceb901  

You can see in this wallet numerous BTC mined blocks inputs from BTCC China Pool and if you go page by page to the last one you will see same pattern - BTCC pool and BTCC China - it is one of big BTCC hot wallets which gets direct inputs from BTCC Pool and BTCC.

BTCC could shed a lot of light in whole matter.True,account on BTCC could be on false name(but I bet it is on Liu Xiuxia or corporate name),but money trail from sending CNY from BTCC to personal(corporate) bank account in China will be pure gold in this investigation.



I'm pretty sure my "source" knows something, hence allowing me to share this info provided.


Question: How does one wanted in the US hiding in China simply exit China and go to where?


DCGirl is the last known person who spoke with him,so she knew where he was at that time.






                                   This is Vernon after big "hack"








                                   And this is after buying big house




When justice finally gets served. (even looks like Paul)

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Yes, this 33.4 BTC:

https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/5e5861924a5b66766f1b51a5e9ccaae30b532a5ba9a1cce8a48287e5dbbabd9d

goes directly to transitional BTCC China wallet ,which groups incoming BTCs in 100 BTC batches(every output from this wallet is exactly 100 BTC) and sent them to one of BTCC China big wallets:


https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/ecb5e4490a17144aa1c6b2ac55d6dee09c00be13054b2cb5983beb9d17af9837

Wallet address : https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/0029356f7eceb901  

You can see in this wallet numerous BTC mined blocks inputs from BTCC China Pool and if you go page by page to the last one you will see same pattern - BTCC pool and BTCC China - it is one of big BTCC hot wallets which gets direct inputs from BTCC Pool and BTCC.

BTCC could shed a lot of light in whole matter.True,account on BTCC could be on false name(but I bet it is on Liu Xiuxia or corporate name),but money trail from sending CNY from BTCC to personal(corporate) bank account in China will be pure gold in this investigation.



I'm pretty sure my "source" knows something, hence allowing me to share this info provided.


Question: How does one wanted in the US hiding in China simply exit China and go to where?


DCGirl is the last known person who spoke with him,so she knew where he was at that time.






                                   This is Vernon after big "hack"








                                   And this is after buying big house


vip
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Yes, this 33.4 BTC:

https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/5e5861924a5b66766f1b51a5e9ccaae30b532a5ba9a1cce8a48287e5dbbabd9d

goes directly to transitional BTCC China wallet ,which groups incoming BTCs in 100 BTC batches(every output from this wallet is exactly 100 BTC) and sent them to one of BTCC China big wallets:


https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/ecb5e4490a17144aa1c6b2ac55d6dee09c00be13054b2cb5983beb9d17af9837

Wallet address : https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/0029356f7eceb901  

You can see in this wallet numerous BTC mined blocks inputs from BTCC China Pool and if you go page by page to the last one you will see same pattern - BTCC pool and BTCC China - it is one of big BTCC hot wallets which gets direct inputs from BTCC Pool and BTCC.

BTCC could shed a lot of light in whole matter.True,account on BTCC could be on false name(but I bet it is on Liu Xiuxia or corporate name),but money trail from sending CNY from BTCC to personal(corporate) bank account in China will be pure gold in this investigation.



I'm pretty sure my "source" knows something, hence allowing me to share this info provided.


Question: How does one wanted in the US hiding in China simply exit China and go to where?
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Yes, this 33.4 BTC:

https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/5e5861924a5b66766f1b51a5e9ccaae30b532a5ba9a1cce8a48287e5dbbabd9d

goes directly to transitional BTCC China wallet ,which groups incoming BTCs in 100 BTC batches(every output from this wallet is exactly 100 BTC) and sent them to one of BTCC China big wallets:


https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/ecb5e4490a17144aa1c6b2ac55d6dee09c00be13054b2cb5983beb9d17af9837

Wallet address : https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/0029356f7eceb901  

You can see in this wallet numerous BTC mined blocks inputs from BTCC China Pool and if you go page by page to the last one you will see same pattern - BTCC pool and BTCC China - it is one of big BTCC hot wallets which gets direct inputs from BTCC Pool and BTCC.

BTCC could shed a lot of light in whole matter.True,account on BTCC could be on false name(but I bet it is on Liu Xiuxia or corporate name),but money trail from sending CNY from BTCC to personal(corporate) bank account in China will be pure gold in this investigation.


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Finally managed to find Bitebi9 wallet.It is on this address:

https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/00abfb6d632bc9b7



It was formed on 20.Nov.2015 and first control deposit transactions were from - Cryptsy of course:







Later, it received numerous BTC deposit transactions from Cryptsy in the time when Cryptsy was closed - mostly during January and February 2016:









Distrubing news for traders on Bitebi 9 is that 3 days ago,all BTCs from exchange wallet were taken( ~ 43.41 BTC) and removed in 2 wallets.In first there is 10 BTC still unspent,but 33 BTC through transitional wallet which send them in 100 BTC batches, went to BTCC China.It is unclear if Vernon uses BTCC China as a safe wallet for Bitebi9 or it is using traders BTCs again to finance his expenses. But it is probably last one,because that transaction took all BTCs from Bitebi9 wallet.









Vernon was relentlessly taking BTCs from Cryptsy to the last one,treating traders money as it is his own money.

Also how will he explain sending BTCs from Cryptsy wallets after closure on exchange he claims it is not his.

This sending BTCs from Bitebi 9 to BTCC China also contribute and support evidences for using Cryptsy BTCs and selling them on BTCC China in the month when Bitebi 9 was established






Wow now needed to make all evidence turn into soft-copy and send towards court. So they can view this good work of vernon  when cryptsy was alive .

Vernon already blocking all court's order / like not surrender the crypts funds n etc Court protocol not follow ,

Now he going hit big double trouble vernon

( I don't know why he doing that / maybe he become greedy sycophant )

(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1874440526/big_vern_400x400.jpg)
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Finally managed to find Bitebi9 wallet.It is on this address:

https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/00abfb6d632bc9b7



It was formed on 20.Nov.2015 and first control deposit transactions were from - Cryptsy of course:







Later, it received numerous BTC deposit transactions from Cryptsy in the time when Cryptsy was closed - mostly during January and February 2016:









Distrubing news for traders on Bitebi 9 is that 3 days ago,all BTCs from exchange wallet were taken( ~ 43.41 BTC) and removed in 2 wallets.In first there is 10 BTC still unspent,but 33 BTC through transitional wallet which send them in 100 BTC batches, went to BTCC China.It is unclear if Vernon uses BTCC China as a safe wallet for Bitebi9 or it is using traders BTCs again to finance his expenses. But it is probably last one,because that transaction took all BTCs from Bitebi9 wallet.









Vernon was relentlessly taking BTCs from Cryptsy to the last one,treating traders money as it is his own money.

Also how will he explain sending BTCs from Cryptsy wallets after closure on exchange he claims it is not his.

This sending BTCs from Bitebi 9 to BTCC China also contribute and support evidences for using Cryptsy BTCs and selling them on BTCC China in the month when Bitebi 9 was established




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I was under the impression that the freemason John McP and Horus John McP are two different John McP who both live in canada?

I have personally witnessed conversations on Cryptsy about Horus being a Freemason, with Horus, it was common knowledge to regulars really..
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I was under the impression that the freemason John McP and Horus John McP are two different John McP who both live in canada?

Official Cryptsy post from https://cryptsy.freshdesk.com/support/discussions/topics/35429 :
  

John Macpherson (said 2 minutes ago)

Hey Guys,  
Thank you for introducing this coin to us. We will take a look at the coin and consider it for addition.


So i think very soon we can see DEM on Cryptsy :-)

And, John Macpherson is mentioned in the OP of this thread as supposedly being Horus with strong reservations.

https://twitter.com/netscr1be/status/621089736363507712



Jdtmp4 aka John MacPherson aka Horus aka CryptsyChristmas aka CryptoHobo aka Canadian Freemason thief and liar: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4830730

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Hey guys! Sorry I forgot I posted this. My foodbank got a nice donation this year from another source, so my lodge was doing a nice thing where we bought toys for kids in the hospital on christmas.

http://www.hamiltondistrictcmasons.org/upload/newsfile_file78.pdf

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District Charity Update (Continued)

The District has had tremendous support for the District
Charity during the past six months; the DDGM and I thank
you sincerely for your contributions of Time, Food
Donations and Financial contributions. However, our drive
is only at the half-way stage.

The need for donations continues all year long so I request
that you keep in mind YOUR district charity and please give
“for the cause of good”.


To-repeat, we have collected over ONE (1) TON of food.

To put a better perspective on how much one ton represents
take a regular recycling blue box and fill it with
cans of food. Each blue box will weigh approx
fifty pounds.; then lay forty-four boxes side by
side and you can imagine how much has been
donated. Once again I thank you for your
donations.

All financial donations (cheques) are to be made payable
to: “The Masonic Foundation of Ontario” quoting Project No.
2490. Tax receipts (donations over $20.00) will be mailed to
you from the Foundation.

John MacPherson

http://www.hamiltondistrictcmasons.org/team.php

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District Historian
R.W. Bro. John MacPherson
Corinthian Lodge No.513
[email protected]
905.528.4883

John MacPherson the District Historian has history on his side in proving that stuff animals can feed a kid for a lifetime, whereas food is so ephemeral.


"Call Brother John MacPherson to start another fun drive. Clearly, these starving kids need stuff animals for Christmas."
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I was under the impression that the freemason John McP and Horus John McP are two different John McP who both live in canada?
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I don't know anything about "bryce weiner"
I may if i knew what other ALT-names he uses(dev's uses lots of names)

I have no idea either. I had never heard of that guy before. It was one of the sockpuppet accounts "WillowRosenberg" who put me on that track:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10364469

Unobtanium is Bryce Weiner's coin, so now I'm Bryce Weiner too. Lol.

But maybe I can try to help you with other ALT-names of "devs":

When I check the other sockpuppets from "willowRosenberg" which I am 100% sure it is one and the same person, then I get a list of other alt-names (between brackets the coins that that one person created):
- MaxGuevarra (Quark)
- JohnJoule (Joulecoin)
- 8bitcoder (Myriadcoin)
- Redkendra (Skeincoin)
- WillowRosenborg (UNO)
- Giskard (Zeta)
- Rolihlahla (Chaincoin)
And the list goes on and on...

Below some examples that someone claims that one of the above sockpuppets is "bryce weiner":
Giskard: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11597720
8bitcoder: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6163302

Is there a light going on in your head? Or still no idea? At least you should know MaxGuevara Wink
I had all my hopes on you that you could help me  Roll Eyes


Mudda is a fucking mystery LOL
I have wondered if he was some other well known guys at times but never 100% sure.
Crestington ?
I think his last comments here right now sound EXACTLY like BitJohn to me.
And it would not be the first time i thought that either.

Really? A mystery? Maybe just read more posts of hippitech.
Are you ok if I just ignore the rest of your post. It sounded a little bit desperate to me.


http://www.newsbtc.com/2015/12/11/exclusive-interview-bryce-weiner/

https://issuu.com/zetacoinjustice/docs/zetacoin_review_web

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I don't know anything about "bryce weiner"
I may if i knew what other ALT-names he uses(dev's uses lots of names)

I have no idea either. I had never heard of that guy before. It was one of the sockpuppet accounts "WillowRosenberg" who put me on that track:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10364469

Unobtanium is Bryce Weiner's coin, so now I'm Bryce Weiner too. Lol.

But maybe I can try to help you with other ALT-names of "devs":

When I check the other sockpuppets from "willowRosenberg" which I am 100% sure it is one and the same person, then I get a list of other alt-names (between brackets the coins that that one person created):
- MaxGuevarra (Quark)
- JohnJoule (Joulecoin)
- 8bitcoder (Myriadcoin)
- Redkendra (Skeincoin)
- WillowRosenborg (UNO)
- Giskard (Zeta)
- Rolihlahla (Chaincoin)
And the list goes on and on...

Below some examples that someone claims that one of the above sockpuppets is "bryce weiner":
Giskard: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11597720
8bitcoder: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6163302

Is there a light going on in your head? Or still no idea? At least you should know MaxGuevara Wink
I had all my hopes on you that you could help me  Roll Eyes


Mudda is a fucking mystery LOL
I have wondered if he was some other well known guys at times but never 100% sure.
Crestington ?
I think his last comments here right now sound EXACTLY like BitJohn to me.
And it would not be the first time i thought that either.

Really? A mystery? Maybe just read more posts of hippitech.
Are you ok if I just ignore the rest of your post. It sounded a little bit desperate to me.






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You will find Big V acted alone and staff were bound by NDA's.

Im pretty sure an NDA is not enforceable when it comes to criminal activity.
I am 100% sure you cannot use the fact  that you have an NDA to justify assisting criminal activity.



When they knew they had been hacked, and ran the exchange taking other peoples money to cover the losses,
they became part of the criminal act. No court in the world is going to accept the excuse "I kept the scam going because of my NDA,
so I can't be  arrested."

How many people do you know that download movies and smoke weed. By your logic your as guilty as they are since you didn't report the crime.

I don't believe staff knew of any doings that were illegal. It's likely they did not know as Paul Vernon was a recluse. Suspicion is far different from knowledge.

If and that's a big if the staff knew activities were illegal I hope they would have spoken up. It's likely the majority are just as confused as you and I to the truth of the matter. As far as I was aware Big Vern was the only one with access to the Bitcoin wallets through layers of security protocol. This gives me the most suspicion that the original crime was not quite as it seems.



Fact: All key Cryptsy personnel read the various forums prior, during and post event, commenting on myriad topics.

Fact: The bitcoins moved during the event were discussed several times prior to anybody here in the wild knowing that an event had occurred, referring to said moneys as being in a cold wallet(s).

Since the event Cryptsy acted as if having a liquidity issue with its key personnel bombarded daily with concerns as to where's their moneys. At some point at least one key personnel would've inquired of Paul Vernon as to why no funds are being moved from the massive cold wallet(s). At the very least, the personnel would've spoken of this among themselves and done some sort of rudimentary investigation over the course of 18 months prior to the announcement on Cryptsy's blog.

Yet, John MacPherson aka Horus, living comfortably numb in his fully paid for condo-cum-office-residence by Paul Vernon/Cryptsy (leased six months prior to Cryptsy Canada was a corp with Marshall Long as its third principal), continued to cry about living paycheque to paycheque, not knowing anything, but if he did he would share it with the community, thus assuming his concerns of any NDA were mute. Recall, Horus was fresh out of University with a law degree in hand and is an honorable Freemason member with haggis dripping from his beard as he continued to collect vitals of unsuspecting users up to the final days of Cryptsy.

It's most likely a safe assumption that key personnel knew of Horus housing arrangement, Paul Vernon's new home and of his divorce in October of last year prior to any of us being versed. I'm pretty sure that at least one compliance officer at Cryptsy was aware of the hack, but they too opted to not report it to an appropriate agency because the key FBI dude they've been working with was no longer an option due to him being indicted almost a year after the event (March 2015). How those at Cryptsy knew that Bridges and Force were being investigated is anybody's guess, but according to Paul Vernon that was the case, hence the infamous quagmire.

http://blog.cryptsy.com/

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Some may ask why we didn’t report this to the authorities when this occurred, and the answer is that we just didn’t know what happened, didn’t want to cause panic, and were unsure who exactly we should be contacting.   At one time we had a open communication with Secret Service Agent Shaun Bridges on an unrelated matter, but I think we all know what happened with him – so he was no longer somebody we could report this to.

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The difference is I didn't help them get the weed or the movies. If you work for a company and it is having withdrawal problems like cryptsy did for months, you would start really asking questions. Since many of the staff apparently had access to ask vern himself I don't see how they would not have been given an answer for so long.

EDIT: Just read the above subsequent post, in essence echoing my sentiment.

... that little piggy went to market and went WE WE WE WE WE all the way to China.

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You will find Big V acted alone and staff were bound by NDA's.

Im pretty sure an NDA is not enforceable when it comes to criminal activity.
I am 100% sure you cannot use the fact  that you have an NDA to justify assisting criminal activity.



When they knew they had been hacked, and ran the exchange taking other peoples money to cover the losses,
they became part of the criminal act. No court in the world is going to accept the excuse "I kept the scam going because of my NDA,
so I can't be  arrested."

How many people do you know that download movies and smoke weed. By your logic your as guilty as they are since you didn't report the crime.

I don't believe staff knew of any doings that were illegal. It's likely they did not know as Paul Vernon was a recluse. Suspicion is far different from knowledge.

If and that's a big if the staff knew activities were illegal I hope they would have spoken up. It's likely the majority are just as confused as you and I to the truth of the matter. As far as I was aware Big Vern was the only one with access to the Bitcoin wallets through layers of security protocol. This gives me the most suspicion that the original crime was not quite as it seems.



Fact: All key Cryptsy personnel read the various forums prior, during and post event, commenting on myriad topics.

Fact: The bitcoins moved during the event were discussed several times prior to anybody here in the wild knowing that an event had occurred, referring to said moneys as being in a cold wallet(s).

Since the event Cryptsy acted as if having a liquidity issue with its key personnel bombarded daily with concerns as to where's their moneys. At some point at least one key personnel would've inquired of Paul Vernon as to why no funds are being moved from the massive cold wallet(s). At the very least, the personnel would've spoken of this among themselves and done some sort of rudimentary investigation over the course of 18 months prior to the announcement on Cryptsy's blog.

Yet, John MacPherson aka Horus, living comfortably numb in his fully paid for condo-cum-office-residence by Paul Vernon/Cryptsy (leased six months prior to Cryptsy Canada was a corp with Marshall Long as its third principal), continued to cry about living paycheque to paycheque, not knowing anything, but if he did he would share it with the community, thus assuming his concerns of any NDA were mute. Recall, Horus was fresh out of University with a law degree in hand and is an honorable Freemason member with haggis dripping from his beard as he continued to collect vitals of unsuspecting users up to the final days of Cryptsy.

It's most likely a safe assumption that key personnel knew of Horus housing arrangement, Paul Vernon's new home and of his divorce in October of last year prior to any of us being versed. I'm pretty sure that at least one compliance officer at Cryptsy was aware of the hack, but they too opted to not report it to an appropriate agency because the key FBI dude they've been working with was no longer an option due to him being indicted almost a year after the event (March 2015). How those at Cryptsy knew that Bridges and Force were being investigated is anybody's guess, but according to Paul Vernon that was the case, hence the infamous quagmire.

http://blog.cryptsy.com/

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Some may ask why we didn’t report this to the authorities when this occurred, and the answer is that we just didn’t know what happened, didn’t want to cause panic, and were unsure who exactly we should be contacting.   At one time we had a open communication with Secret Service Agent Shaun Bridges on an unrelated matter, but I think we all know what happened with him – so he was no longer somebody we could report this to.

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The difference is I didn't help them get the weed or the movies. If you work for a company and it is having withdrawal problems like cryptsy did for months, you would start really asking questions. Since many of the staff apparently had access to ask vern himself I don't see how they would not have been given an answer for so long.

EDIT: Just read the above subsequent post, in essence echoing my sentiment.

... that little piggy went to market and went WE WE WE WE WE all the way to China.
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You will find Big V acted alone and staff were bound by NDA's.

Im pretty sure an NDA is not enforceable when it comes to criminal activity.
I am 100% sure you cannot use the fact  that you have an NDA to justify assisting criminal activity.



When they knew they had been hacked, and ran the exchange taking other peoples money to cover the losses,
they became part of the criminal act. No court in the world is going to accept the excuse "I kept the scam going because of my NDA,
so I can't be  arrested."

How many people do you know that download movies and smoke weed. By your logic your as guilty as they are since you didn't report the crime.

I don't believe staff knew of any doings that were illegal. It's likely they did not know as Paul Vernon was a recluse. Suspicion is far different from knowledge.

If and that's a big if the staff knew activities were illegal I hope they would have spoken up. It's likely the majority are just as confused as you and I to the truth of the matter. As far as I was aware Big Vern was the only one with access to the Bitcoin wallets through layers of security protocol. This gives me the most suspicion that the original crime was not quite as it seems.



Fact: All key Cryptsy personnel read the various forums prior, during and post event, commenting on myriad topics.

Fact: The bitcoins moved during the event were discussed several times prior to anybody here in the wild knowing that an event had occurred, referring to said moneys as being in a cold wallet(s).

Since the event Cryptsy acted as if having a liquidity issue with its key personnel bombarded daily with concerns as to where's their moneys. At some point at least one key personnel would've inquired of Paul Vernon as to why no funds are being moved from the massive cold wallet(s). At the very least, the personnel would've spoken of this among themselves and done some sort of rudimentary investigation over the course of 18 months prior to the announcement on Cryptsy's blog.

Yet, John MacPherson aka Horus, living comfortably numb in his fully paid for condo-cum-office-residence by Paul Vernon/Cryptsy (leased six months prior to Cryptsy Canada was a corp with Marshall Long as its third principal), continued to cry about living paycheque to paycheque, not knowing anything, but if he did he would share it with the community, thus assuming his concerns of any NDA were mute. Recall, Horus was fresh out of University with a law degree in hand and is an honorable Freemason member with haggis dripping from his beard as he continued to collect vitals of unsuspecting users up to the final days of Cryptsy.

It's most likely a safe assumption that key personnel knew of Horus housing arrangement, Paul Vernon's new home and of his divorce in October of last year prior to any of us being versed. I'm pretty sure that at least one compliance officer at Cryptsy was aware of the hack, but they too opted to not report it to an appropriate agency because the key FBI dude they've been working with was no longer an option due to him being indicted almost a year after the event (March 2015). How those at Cryptsy knew that Bridges and Force were being investigated is anybody's guess, but according to Paul Vernon that was the case, hence the infamous quagmire.

http://blog.cryptsy.com/

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Some may ask why we didn’t report this to the authorities when this occurred, and the answer is that we just didn’t know what happened, didn’t want to cause panic, and were unsure who exactly we should be contacting.   At one time we had a open communication with Secret Service Agent Shaun Bridges on an unrelated matter, but I think we all know what happened with him – so he was no longer somebody we could report this to.

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1. nominative plural of I.


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The difference is I didn't help them get the weed or the movies. If you work for a company and it is having withdrawal problems like cryptsy did for months, you would start really asking questions. Since many of the staff apparently had access to ask vern himself I don't see how they would not have been given an answer for so long.

EDIT: Just read the above subsequent post, in essence echoing my sentiment.
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