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vip
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You will find Big V acted alone and staff were bound by NDA's.

Im pretty sure an NDA is not enforceable when it comes to criminal activity.
I am 100% sure you cannot use the fact  that you have an NDA to justify assisting criminal activity.



When they knew they had been hacked, and ran the exchange taking other peoples money to cover the losses,
they became part of the criminal act. No court in the world is going to accept the excuse "I kept the scam going because of my NDA,
so I can't be  arrested."

How many people do you know that download movies and smoke weed. By your logic your as guilty as they are since you didn't report the crime.

I don't believe staff knew of any doings that were illegal. It's likely they did not know as Paul Vernon was a recluse. Suspicion is far different from knowledge.

If and that's a big if the staff knew activities were illegal I hope they would have spoken up. It's likely the majority are just as confused as you and I to the truth of the matter. As far as I was aware Big Vern was the only one with access to the Bitcoin wallets through layers of security protocol. This gives me the most suspicion that the original crime was not quite as it seems.



Fact: All key Cryptsy personnel read the various forums prior, during and post event, commenting on myriad topics.

Fact: The bitcoins moved during the event were discussed several times prior to anybody here in the wild knowing that an event had occurred, referring to said moneys as being in a cold wallet(s).

Since the event Cryptsy acted as if having a liquidity issue with its key personnel bombarded daily with concerns as to where's their moneys. At some point at least one key personnel would've inquired of Paul Vernon as to why no funds are being moved from the massive cold wallet(s). At the very least, the personnel would've spoken of this among themselves and done some sort of rudimentary investigation over the course of 18 months prior to the announcement on Cryptsy's blog.

Yet, John MacPherson aka Horus, living comfortably numb in his fully paid for condo-cum-office-residence by Paul Vernon/Cryptsy (leased six months prior to Cryptsy Canada was a corp with Marshall Long as its third principal), continued to cry about living paycheque to paycheque, not knowing anything, but if he did he would share it with the community, thus assuming his concerns of any NDA were mute. Recall, Horus was fresh out of University with a law degree in hand and is an honorable Freemason member with haggis dripping from his beard as he continued to collect vitals of unsuspecting users up to the final days of Cryptsy.

It's most likely a safe assumption that key personnel knew of Horus housing arrangement, Paul Vernon's new home and of his divorce in October of last year prior to any of us being versed. I'm pretty sure that at least one compliance officer at Cryptsy was aware of the hack, but they too opted to not report it to an appropriate agency because the key FBI dude they've been working with was no longer an option due to him being indicted almost a year after the event (March 2015). How those at Cryptsy knew that Bridges and Force were being investigated is anybody's guess, but according to Paul Vernon that was the case, hence the infamous quagmire.

http://blog.cryptsy.com/

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Some may ask why we didn’t report this to the authorities when this occurred, and the answer is that we just didn’t know what happened, didn’t want to cause panic, and were unsure who exactly we should be contacting.   At one time we had a open communication with Secret Service Agent Shaun Bridges on an unrelated matter, but I think we all know what happened with him – so he was no longer somebody we could report this to.

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The difference is I didn't help them get the weed or the movies. If you work for a company and it is having withdrawal problems like cryptsy did for months, you would start really asking questions. Since many of the staff apparently had access to ask vern himself I don't see how they would not have been given an answer for so long.

EDIT: Just read the above subsequent post, in essence echoing my sentiment.
legendary
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legendary
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All cryptos are FIAT digital currency. Do not use.


You will find Big V acted alone and staff were bound by NDA's.

Im pretty sure an NDA is not enforceable when it comes to criminal activity.
I am 100% sure you cannot use the fact  that you have an NDA to justify assisting criminal activity.



When they knew they had been hacked, and ran the exchange taking other peoples money to cover the losses,
they became part of the criminal act. No court in the world is going to accept the excuse "I kept the scam going because of my NDA,
so I can't be  arrested."

How many people do you know that download movies and smoke weed. By your logic your as guilty as they are since you didn't report the crime.

I don't believe staff knew of any doings that were illegal. It's likely they did not know as Paul Vernon was a recluse. Suspicion is far different from knowledge.

If and that's a big if the staff knew activities were illegal I hope they would have spoken up. It's likely the majority are just as confused as you and I to the truth of the matter. As far as I was aware Big Vern was the only one with access to the Bitcoin wallets through layers of security protocol. This gives me the most suspicion that the original crime was not quite as it seems.

Can this pathetic joke go on any longer ??  uggh

YUP .. like that day during your IFC pump n dump when I/we had to spell out I-N-S-I-D-E-R-T-R-A-D-I-N-G to BitJohn and others. lolz..

Sooo.. how are your "prometheous group" buddies doin ? Roll Eyes
legendary
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FUD Philanthropist™
I don't know anything about "bryce weiner"
I may if i knew what other ALT-names he uses (dev's uses lots of names)

Mudda is a fucking mystery LOL
I have wondered if he was some other well known guys at times but never 100% sure.
Crestington ?
I think his last comments here right now sound EXACTLY like BitJohn to me.
And it would not be the first time i thought that either.

So much mystery what can you do ?
So many people WANT to hide their activity.
And THAT was my Mr.Honest point earlier.. i have had one name i used.
And if i supported a coin in some way it was public.

My point was not to rant on how honest i am but to show how hard many guys try & hide their activity.

Peeling away the layers of deceit is not easy.
I pity any law enforcement that would have to step into this bullshit for an investigation.

Intent.. justification etc.
What do you all consider to be acceptable behavior (especially when it comes to Cryptsy staff)
I KNOW i would get different answers from different people..
The common retort is "i needed to put food on the table" so i did work for some coin etc.
Responsibility ?
hero member
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I agree with Sportnik. The community defended the right to encourage and welcome new scammers. It's not hard to realise the whole state of the crypto community could be symbolised as a piece of steaming dog turd.

Its Sputnik not Sportnik!



Its Spoetnik not Sputnik not Sportnik!

Or is it Spaetacus (a proven scamcoin, linked to spoetnik).
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7896277

Anyway, he is doing it again. He knows how to confuse people in a thread with his endless blatant posts.


My ass is clean and 100% of my activities is fully public.
I had nothing what so ever to do with that coin and probably bad mouthed it if anything..
No one has or ever will turn up any dirt on me because it's simply not possible.
But you are all free to look..

I have tried since day 1 to be supportive.
And over time the scene has decayed and rotted leaving me no choice but to give up.
I actually rounded up the last of my Bitcoin yesterday and donated it to a guy.
Does that sound like a greedy scammer thing to do ?
It's also how i started..
I first got a couple FTC and gave half of them away mining with an Nvidia card.
I never got a thank you and was bad mouthed about supporting FTC a year later though.
Mid-2013 it was too hard to mine LTC so i needed something to help get started.
And the FTC guys were smooth talkers and had me believing their bullshit when i got here on day 1.

Throw all the accusations at me all you want guys.. i tried i really did.
I don't have much faith in Crypto anymore.. the majority is greedy and there for a scam enabler.
so that means crypto is doomed as far as i am concerned.

Case in point.. DCGirl
Who has spent YEARS supporting, advertising or working for scam coins.
Most of them coming from the same crew..
How does she justify this behavior ? Profits ? i need to make money ? What ?
Far too many Dev's in crypto say they need work so they allow themselves to be paid off.
Like the sleazy fucker who made Hype for Presstab.
Or guys sitting on Cryptsy IRC right now LOL
Such as Marshall's good buddy Ahmed hahahah
They all pull their scammy bullshit then say well.. uhh... i need to get paid !

Good thing i did not invest in the Crypt Retirement Savings Plan (CRSP) or their "Merch"
I bet those IRC logs on Google would show DCGirl in there somewhere (and some of the other usual suspects)

So what is her reward ?
She gets made a moderator / staff at Cryptsy and has a direct line to scammer extraordinaire BigVern.
Me ?
I am branded a Troll who FUD's

Scamming pays guys..
You are either in the club or blacklisted (i had a 1 year ban from Cryptsy chat)

Who are "they" ?
Look around they did not go anywhere.. they simply change names + coins.
..because they need to "get paid"

EDIT:
Hate me or think i am an asshole but you guys know damn well i have been sincere and genuine.
I have actually tried to be tolerant, helpful and a contributor to Crypto.
I tried to be a supporter of Crypto and a profiteer 2nd. (which conflicts with pure 100% profiteers)

I understand the pain. There are few people and only a handful that have the right intentions around here. Usually the ones making the false accusations are the ones with the most to hide.

Most allegations in this thread are wrong anyways but that's not important.

I don't need 10 paragraphs of nonsense to explain I am clean or to burry my shit.

@ Spoetnik, since you are so open, communicative, supportive for the altcoin scene and suppose to know everything...can you tell something about "bryce weiner "? Most of his coins are listed at Cryptsy but you haven't mention anything in this thread about him. (he is linked to myriad, zeta, uno and many more). Just curious if and what his relationship was with cryptsy.

@ muddafudda, spoetnik once told there was a correlation between you and shakezulu/Adam (without further explanation unfortunately). I have to search for the link (I will provide you later). What is your correlation? Except you asked both 5 LTC for a copied coin.

Cryptsy was much bigger than only the staff working there







sr. member
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Truth is, I don't believe I am adding anything more to this conversation. I believe what I believe and without proof I will not change my opinion.
I can complain and make snarky comments, but it isn't helping. The people here who can actually follow the blockchain and will eventually prove
what happened will do what they do best, and what I am  unable to do. Someday, all this will get sorted out and the investors will take it in the ass due to Verns greed... but I am backing out of this thread for a while... Sometimes it's best if I just shut up... or so im told :-)


Good luck everyone. I am sure ill be watching
sr. member
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How many people do you know that download movies and smoke weed. By your logic your as guilty as they are since you didn't report the crime.

I don't believe staff knew of any doings that were illegal. It's likely they did not know as Paul Vernon was a recluse. Suspicion is far different from knowledge.

If and that's a big if the staff knew activities were illegal I hope they would have spoken up. It's likely the majority are just as confused as you and I to the truth of the matter. As far as I was aware Big Vern was the only one with access to the Bitcoin wallets through layers of security protocol. This gives me the most suspicion that the original crime was not quite as it seems.


The difference is I didn't help them get the weed or the movies. If you work for a company and it is having withdrawal problems like cryptsy did for months, you would start really asking questions. Since many of the staff apparently had access to ask vern himself I don't see how they would not have been given an answer for so long.

In any event, we will all have to wait till the feds recover every e-mail send to / from the employees before we really know. Till then I guess we can all believe what we want.
legendary
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You will find Big V acted alone and staff were bound by NDA's.

Im pretty sure an NDA is not enforceable when it comes to criminal activity.
I am 100% sure you cannot use the fact  that you have an NDA to justify assisting criminal activity.



When they knew they had been hacked, and ran the exchange taking other peoples money to cover the losses,
they became part of the criminal act. No court in the world is going to accept the excuse "I kept the scam going because of my NDA,
so I can't be  arrested."

How many people do you know that download movies and smoke weed. By your logic your as guilty as they are since you didn't report the crime.

I don't believe staff knew of any doings that were illegal. It's likely they did not know as Paul Vernon was a recluse. Suspicion is far different from knowledge.

If and that's a big if the staff knew activities were illegal I hope they would have spoken up. It's likely the majority are just as confused as you and I to the truth of the matter. As far as I was aware Big Vern was the only one with access to the Bitcoin wallets through layers of security protocol. This gives me the most suspicion that the original crime was not quite as it seems.
sr. member
Activity: 306
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You will find Big V acted alone and staff were bound by NDA's.

Im pretty sure an NDA is not enforceable when it comes to criminal activity.
I am 100% sure you cannot use the fact  that you have an NDA to justify assisting criminal activity.



When they knew they had been hacked, and ran the exchange taking other peoples money to cover the losses,
they became part of the criminal act. No court in the world is going to accept the excuse "I kept the scam going because of my NDA,
so I can't be  arrested."
sr. member
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Now the company is in the hands of the receivers, I wouldn't be surprised if they have access to all company information including NDA's.
legendary
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How Greedy ppls  take your systems in darkside

( greedy part - https://youtu.be/JZGJ7RMzzRQ )

( homeless ppls who try get batter life
https://youtu.be/yqM32gSoPyM )

Vernon. You understand that dudedude ,
peekaboo Game .I'm not enjoying .now stop that shit . give back users coin , whatever you have .


https://coinreport.net/shapeshift-ceo-erik-voorhees-says-security-hack-executed-inside-help/


But in cryptsy ,
whole team was involved that hack proferm n hiding truth from users.

You will find Big V acted alone and staff were bound by NDA's.

Handy NDAs for not disclosing crimes then  Smiley

Are you going to pay their rent or feed their kids when they get fired, for leaking information that could possibly be incorrect. Think for a second, I know it's not a common thing to do around here.
newbie
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How Greedy ppls  take your systems in darkside

( greedy part - https://youtu.be/JZGJ7RMzzRQ )

( homeless ppls who try get batter life
https://youtu.be/yqM32gSoPyM )

Vernon. You understand that dudedude ,
peekaboo Game .I'm not enjoying .now stop that shit . give back users coin , whatever you have .


https://coinreport.net/shapeshift-ceo-erik-voorhees-says-security-hack-executed-inside-help/


But in cryptsy ,
whole team was involved that hack proferm n hiding truth from users.

You will find Big V acted alone and staff were bound by NDA's.

Handy NDAs for not disclosing crimes then  Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1008
Merit: 1022
How Greedy ppls  take your systems in darkside

( greedy part - https://youtu.be/JZGJ7RMzzRQ )

( homeless ppls who try get batter life
https://youtu.be/yqM32gSoPyM )

Vernon. You understand that dudedude ,
peekaboo Game .I'm not enjoying .now stop that shit . give back users coin , whatever you have .


https://coinreport.net/shapeshift-ceo-erik-voorhees-says-security-hack-executed-inside-help/


But in cryptsy ,
whole team was involved that hack proferm n hiding truth from users.

You will find Big V acted alone and staff were bound by NDA's.
sr. member
Activity: 377
Merit: 260
How Greedy ppls  take your systems in darkside

( greedy part - https://youtu.be/JZGJ7RMzzRQ )

( homeless ppls who try get batter life
https://youtu.be/yqM32gSoPyM )

Vernon. You understand that dudedude ,
peekaboo Game .I'm not enjoying .now stop that shit . give back users coin , whatever you have .


https://coinreport.net/shapeshift-ceo-erik-voorhees-says-security-hack-executed-inside-help/


But in cryptsy ,
whole team was involved that hack proferm n hiding truth from users.
legendary
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I agree with Sportnik. The community defended the right to encourage and welcome new scammers. It's not hard to realise the whole state of the crypto community could be symbolised as a piece of steaming dog turd.

Its Sputnik not Sportnik!



Its Spoetnik not Sputnik not Sportnik!

Or is it Spaetacus (a proven scamcoin, linked to spoetnik).
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7896277

Anyway, he is doing it again. He knows how to confuse people in a thread with his endless blatant posts.


My ass is clean and 100% of my activities is fully public.
I had nothing what so ever to do with that coin and probably bad mouthed it if anything..
No one has or ever will turn up any dirt on me because it's simply not possible.
But you are all free to look..

I have tried since day 1 to be supportive.
And over time the scene has decayed and rotted leaving me no choice but to give up.
I actually rounded up the last of my Bitcoin yesterday and donated it to a guy.
Does that sound like a greedy scammer thing to do ?
It's also how i started..
I first got a couple FTC and gave half of them away mining with an Nvidia card.
I never got a thank you and was bad mouthed about supporting FTC a year later though.
Mid-2013 it was too hard to mine LTC so i needed something to help get started.
And the FTC guys were smooth talkers and had me believing their bullshit when i got here on day 1.

Throw all the accusations at me all you want guys.. i tried i really did.
I don't have much faith in Crypto anymore.. the majority is greedy and there for a scam enabler.
so that means crypto is doomed as far as i am concerned.

Case in point.. DCGirl
Who has spent YEARS supporting, advertising or working for scam coins.
Most of them coming from the same crew..
How does she justify this behavior ? Profits ? i need to make money ? What ?
Far too many Dev's in crypto say they need work so they allow themselves to be paid off.
Like the sleazy fucker who made Hype for Presstab.
Or guys sitting on Cryptsy IRC right now LOL
Such as Marshall's good buddy Ahmed hahahah
They all pull their scammy bullshit then say well.. uhh... i need to get paid !

Good thing i did not invest in the Crypt Retirement Savings Plan (CRSP) or their "Merch"
I bet those IRC logs on Google would show DCGirl in there somewhere (and some of the other usual suspects)

So what is her reward ?
She gets made a moderator / staff at Cryptsy and has a direct line to scammer extraordinaire BigVern.
Me ?
I am branded a Troll who FUD's

Scamming pays guys..
You are either in the club or blacklisted (i had a 1 year ban from Cryptsy chat)

Who are "they" ?
Look around they did not go anywhere.. they simply change names + coins.
..because they need to "get paid"

EDIT:
Hate me or think i am an asshole but you guys know damn well i have been sincere and genuine.
I have actually tried to be tolerant, helpful and a contributor to Crypto.
I tried to be a supporter of Crypto and a profiteer 2nd. (which conflicts with pure 100% profiteers)

I understand the pain. There are few people and only a handful that have the right intentions around here. Usually the ones making the false accusations are the ones with the most to hide.

Most allegations in this thread are wrong anyways but that's not important.
vip
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Great news! Cryptcracker convinced Jim Shockney to left all bans on Cryptsy chat. And you all thought that Jim doesn't left.
legendary
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Merit: 1011
FUD Philanthropist™
I agree with Sportnik. The community defended the right to encourage and welcome new scammers. It's not hard to realise the whole state of the crypto community could be symbolised as a piece of steaming dog turd.

Its Sputnik not Sportnik!



Its Spoetnik not Sputnik not Sportnik!

Or is it Spaetacus (a proven scamcoin, linked to spoetnik).
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7896277

Anyway, he is doing it again. He knows how to confuse people in a thread with his endless blatant posts.


My ass is clean and 100% of my activities is fully public.
I had nothing what so ever to do with that coin and probably bad mouthed it if anything..
No one has or ever will turn up any dirt on me because it's simply not possible.
But you are all free to look..

I have tried since day 1 to be supportive.
And over time the scene has decayed and rotted leaving me no choice but to give up.
I actually rounded up the last of my Bitcoin yesterday and donated it to a guy.
Does that sound like a greedy scammer thing to do ?
It's also how i started..
I first got a couple FTC and gave half of them away mining with an Nvidia card.
I never got a thank you and was bad mouthed about supporting FTC a year later though.
Mid-2013 it was too hard to mine LTC so i needed something to help get started.
And the FTC guys were smooth talkers and had me believing their bullshit when i got here on day 1.

Throw all the accusations at me all you want guys.. i tried i really did.
I don't have much faith in Crypto anymore.. the majority is greedy and there for a scam enabler.
so that means crypto is doomed as far as i am concerned.

Case in point.. DCGirl
Who has spent YEARS supporting, advertising or working for scam coins.
Most of them coming from the same crew..
How does she justify this behavior ? Profits ? i need to make money ? What ?
Far too many Dev's in crypto say they need work so they allow themselves to be paid off.
Like the sleazy fucker who made Hype for Presstab.
Or guys sitting on Cryptsy IRC right now LOL
Such as Marshall's good buddy Ahmed hahahah
They all pull their scammy bullshit then say well.. uhh... i need to get paid !

Good thing i did not invest in the Crypt Retirement Savings Plan (CRSP) or their "Merch"
I bet those IRC logs on Google would show DCGirl in there somewhere (and some of the other usual suspects)

So what is her reward ?
She gets made a moderator / staff at Cryptsy and has a direct line to scammer extraordinaire BigVern.
Me ?
I am branded a Troll who FUD's

Scamming pays guys..
You are either in the club or blacklisted (i had a 1 year ban from Cryptsy chat)

Who are "they" ?
Look around they did not go anywhere.. they simply change names + coins.
..because they need to "get paid"

EDIT:
Hate me or think i am an asshole but you guys know damn well i have been sincere and genuine.
I have actually tried to be tolerant, helpful and a contributor to Crypto.
I tried to be a supporter of Crypto and a profiteer 2nd. (which conflicts with pure 100% profiteers)
legendary
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FUD Philanthropist™
anti-Money Laundering analyst

While I'm genuinely curious what "anti-Money" is and how one launders it, the bigger picture here is that BigVern is a GENIUS. He managed to run an insolvent exchange for a year and a half, spending money on fancy real estate and other extracurricular activities while being surrounded by financial experts who didn't suspect a thing.

THIS for fuck sakes !

For the love of WTF man HOW the hell does this happen ?

I swear to god i am not kidding i really do think of this shit as.. Crying FUD for bucks $$$

You can literaly do ANYTHING you want.. steal millions or even billions and walk away chanting
i was hacked.. FUD.. TROLLS.. Defamation lawsuits etc
And why not ?
It pays big time.. easiest way to earn money in human history.
legendary
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FUD Philanthropist™
I agree with Sportnik. The community defended the right to encourage and welcome new scammers. It's not hard to realise the whole state of the crypto community could be symbolised as a piece of steaming dog turd.

It pisses me off that this stuff has been rail-roaded and hijacked by scammy people.
I was highlighting earlier how the people out there are "enablers".
The environment the Altcoin scene has turned into around the world has become a toxic pit.

Think of these exchanges that went down with "i wuz hacked stories"
Think of how the site owner needed the end users to keep shoveling money in..
so the owner had something to steal.

Even after these sites go down people STILL rail on supporting them.
I have PM's from an older member here who told me via PM he wishes Cryptsy would come back.
Seriously ? WTF man !

The scammy element exists here in Crypto because we opened the door for them and tucked them into bed at night
with gentle kisses on the forehead then after they go to sleep we we bad mouth them behind their back.
Then when no one is looking we sneak into their room and give them a little late night tug..
And if they made us much profits and such Lambo's lately we give them a little morning time slurpy slurp.

Bitcoinbuilder + Gox
Terrik + cyberpinoy + Jagropolite + Goldseal buying Cryptsy-BTC and on & on..
Enablers.. sleazy money grubbing predators they prey on the vulnerable.
All you guys arb'ing Doge coin as the doors closed are just like them too !

So it doesn't seem like we all as a whole will ever learn from stories like this.
Rinse & repeat..
legendary
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wtf is this bounty bonds bullshit - this is the stupidest thing I have ever heard of. Do not give this cryptcracker clown any money.
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