Topic: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action - page 171. (Read 1006931 times)

He doesn't have cryptsy anymore. Its gone like your coins.

The court took it away from him because he has proven he is not able to handle it.

Now the courts will take a long time to work out what is what, and who should have what. No matter how you look at it, there was more than one theft here.  The "hacker" stealing the 1300 BTC and all the other alt coins. Then cryptsy itself and its employees for running a ponzi after the fact.
All the crypto coins will be liquidated, and sold and the depositors will get to apply for the change that is left after the lawyers are done with it.

Believe me, the lawyers will get paid.  

one coin vs the other coin... Paul and the crew stole from all of us.

"Bill (Bittrex)

 Apr 12, 11:15

Hi,

Thanks for bringing this to our attention. While we can't provide any information on ongoing investigations, all relevant information is being sent to the proper authorities. Forensic work from the community and exchanges helps law enforcement and regulators know that we're mature enough to handle this space without overly aggressive regulation.

The situation with Cryptsy is unfortunate and if we're able to, we'd like to help resolve the situation as quickly as we can.

Thank you again,
Bill"

Wouldn't it be better if Vernon made the coins available on Cryptsy so we can withdraw them?  That way they wouldn't have to go through the lawyers that are going to take most of it in their fees.  If he would just let us withdraw the coins from Cryptsy, we could get 100% of our coins back, right?

so he admitted to selling coins on bittrex? though its obvious it was him seeing as other employees stated only paul had access to keys. thats if they were telling the truth. whats your opinion on paul? full gox and shady now or...? im curious

I'm not sure what the reason was. I made clear that those coins do not belong to Paul Vernon, they do not belong to Cryptsy and they do not belong to the receiver. But legally the receiver is now the custodian of those funds. I'm happy that he agreed to do the right thing, and will not drop this. I will also speak up if the receiver tries to liquidate the coins to satisfy company debt.

Did vern happen to mention why he was stil selling coins on bittrex when cryptsy was unavailable to customers to withdraw? Or why when it was receiver appointed he was still selling. Surely you can see he's being a naughty boy.

Thanks I think we all appreciate someone from Cryptsy giving us some answers.

I can't really confirm anything, just relate what he told me, that he has turned over all customer funds to the receiver. I will, however, continue to follow up on this.

Can you confirm Vern has sent back the wallets thunderjet tracked to him as well as the 13000 he tried to steal?

Specifically talking about these wallets:



1C6JEkN16FqyLH37vvmSicE59kqEadUmtf   1044.4783332     50   390972
1EycjnLMwsu3TGkmRXk2KcQFKfMDms3BPh   543.96196074    19   384491
1LDJRDYwqaMeP4fohtKCk9rC4yNp84ZwBj   539.76554775    22   393904
12wjDTKN7VJ7EzGpXhzUugRn9EksAE7V54   529.15362786    34   393904
12jbr2aBAvepnhLVzH7FmEJSj5vhV12AVc   525.12341805    22   390967
16GND7hK2G6ng1wkZeotEboAAXCJQ3oFMS   198.38328147    12   393899
19tZeUPgr79fPcnF7kZ5Auibng5MJu8ZXV   92.68801239    19   393904
1CH76kqRrgi1bNKBR2No58D2Ww4ZMLNnAz   24.3806        8   384491
1KCUsmS1yno86E1WyaezJryBLeFPTBvgSS   20.91127867    4   393904

and these:

https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/0c07e0bec1002bd2

14nzbWNMPjmvwy96uuFVXtj6VgChJtHvU9
1KBy6MvcBb2qQRS5fQT92o2c5Dq2W6ygx4
17nmFFPSANbPGgdtoEEuc6xbHoaP1n6ZBb
13QxkdrhfeQ6aCF4TBWg8knQGBmiwL2rpV
1LwZYCt8dDhZDMd6uXGMwVsmWPXW9eX9Ww
1AWdxqABYiDxcY1sxzPzEotvjFjq8NUY8Z
1DqCNwUffFTxULH8crehynw53TwrHnrv1c
1DSxcqygQ69MxRc8oW94kQjWHzMb4BYsnG
13nAJw8jw7BiYKLnad9YGdPxybK9mgPkM6
18E3AWaadnUPQ1aMpfEoyTXN49NYAZzbpD
1315LzDFcBLDBKgVAr4ZhCkcT5GXivpiuj
etc

I am concerned he might try to withhold these embezzled/laundered coins away from the receiver. The reason it's so important is because if he withholds them he's probably going to jail for embezzlement and money laundering but if he returns them he might not even go to jail or if he does it might just be for fraud or contempt of court, not as serious.
Plus if he does the right thing and returns all the coins he tried to steal no one has to sue macphereson, shockney lorrie nettles or any of the others at cryptsy. That's why I hope he makes this right for everyone.

As far as I know. If you find out otherwise please let me know, thanks.

Would that include the keys to those wallets?

I spoke with Paul last night. I believe he has turned all wallets - those on Cryptsy servers, and those at Bittrex- over to the receiver, as well as the servers themselves. I think he sent out a tweet saying this. I would expect that the receiver can confirm that he received this.

Macphereson, and Shokney, and any other accomplice of Vern's if you are reading this please you guys have got to talk some sense into Vern. The jig is up. You two are probably the most likely besides Vern to go to jail over this but the others like Nerd Life can be sued like Lorie is because you guys were complicit in the Fraud. Vern has the money he made off of tricking you guys into being his accomplices. Don't let him drag you down with his stupidity. If you can reach Vern, you've got to bring him back to reason. He got greedy playing with all those coins he came to think of them as "his" and when Cryptsy wasn't working out making money he became like Golem and got obsessed with his "precious", the coins. He's not acting in his right mind. You guys have got to reason him out of this if you talk to him. DC girl, Nerd Life, you guys please get Vern to try to do right for everybody's sake, including Vern's. He could seriously do like decades in jail. You can't further enable him to do this to himself or you.

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11:33 AM (33 minutes ago)

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I figured Paul might try a desperation move. I tried to talk him out of it. Paul, you messed up big time sending those coins to bittrex. I think if you had just returned the coins instead you could have saved yourself from jail. Now I am afraid you have fucked it up. Your best move however is still to simply return the coins anonymously. You're not getting away with this scheme. After you get out of jail you will not be able to spend the coins. This scheme will not work. We are onto you. Remember that period of time when Mark Karpeles was sweating it out before he got arrested? That's where you are at right now. You still have a chance to do the right thing although at this point I'm afraid you are most likely going to be arrested and convicted and sent to jail. You can still mitigate your situation however by returning coins. These white collar crimes I think they sentence based on the amount stolen so by returning the coins I think you can at least not turn out like madoff doing life. Think about it. Do what's right here, man.

Thank god you are not family of me either.

Where did I attack you? You feel attacked by me because I described how your beloved "community" and "developer" behaves? Maybe you should ask your community to open a new thread and discuss this...or do we get a new interesting discussion of one person with multiple accounts?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9501822
(one person with multiple accounts is posting in one single thread, and also noticed by another scammer):
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9503664

Above is just an example how your "community" fools/misleads/scams people by posting with multiple accounts.

Anyway this thread is not about your coin, but cryptsy.
And yes you understood me correct.

But for you personally you don't need to bother so much I guess...you gained 14000% with cryptsy....
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13019041

Just sent this off to bittrex and the receiver's email:

Fontas Returns <[email protected]>
11:33 AM (0 minutes ago)

to support, media, jds
Hi, I am writing to inform you of some concerning facts that have come to light following the situation with the Cryptsy theft. As you know someone, most likely Paul Vernon, recently got caught putting Cryptsy coins on Bittrex in a suspicious transaction. However, a bitcointalk.org user who calls himself "thunderjet" has done a forensic audit on the "critical event" and has found that the forensics show this recent suspicious transaction with the UNO wallet is part of an ongoing pattern of suspicious transactions that appear to be an embezzlement scheme of Paul Vernon or other culprit who stole coins off Cryptsy in 2014. It appears from forensic audit this pattern of suspicious Bittrex transactions relating to the apparent embezzlement go back at least as far as 2014-10-14.

The Cryptsy thief is believed to control this btc wallet, and the coins in it are believed to be the main stash of laundered proceeds from the embezzlement of the alt coins which appear to have been sold on bittrex and other exchanges:

https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/1356a64174770337

wallet addresses of main stash :

1C6JEkN16FqyLH37vvmSicE59kqEadUmtf   1044.4783332 50   390972
1EycjnLMwsu3TGkmRXk2KcQFKfMDms3BPh   543.96196074 19   384491
1LDJRDYwqaMeP4fohtKCk9rC4yNp84ZwBj   539.76554775 22   393904
12wjDTKN7VJ7EzGpXhzUugRn9EksAE7V54   529.15362786 34   393904
12jbr2aBAvepnhLVzH7FmEJSj5vhV12AVc   525.12341805 22   390967
16GND7hK2G6ng1wkZeotEboAAXCJQ3oFMS   198.38328147 12   393899
19tZeUPgr79fPcnF7kZ5Auibng5MJu8ZXV   92.68801239 19   393904
1CH76kqRrgi1bNKBR2No58D2Ww4ZMLNnAz   24.3806 8   384491
1KCUsmS1yno86E1WyaezJryBLeFPTBvgSS   20.91127867 4   393904

The specific bittrex transactions relating to this theft can be found at this link:
https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/1356a64174770337?page=2

According to the findings of thunderjet, (which appear to be the best forensic accounting of the Cryptsy hack now known publicly) indicate that a big chunk of the stolen alts were laundered through bittrex in 2015 perhaps going back into 2014 and whoever controls the bittrex account(s) associated with these transactions is probably the Cryptsy thief(most likely Paul Vernon).

Sincerely, a concerned crypto community member

I had some faith or at least wanted to believe that Cryptsy would eventually find a resolution to return at least a majority of peoples funds.

Now that its in the hands of a court appointed lawyer / accountant.  I have lost all faith and no longer believe.

lol

Jeez, something not right about him,he should be arrested for looking like that