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Topic: [Cult of Lauda] An historic peace: Rome’s treaty with Carthage - page 2. (Read 2095 times)

legendary
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Exactly how does that help when people refuse to enforce the standards of the trust system and continue to include those that abuse it? Further more, they abuse it to keep out anyone who resists this abusive behavior by excluding anyone who is critical of this abuse. It is kind of like saying "Yeah you have free speech, but you can only exercise it in the basement in the dark between the hours of 3AM and 6AM."

It works exactly the same way as it does in any other situation where people disagree with you. You can ignore it, or fight it, or blame everyone for not fighting it for you - whatever makes you happy. None of what you described, even if it's real, prevents you from including the Turks and the Russians exercising your free speech.

The trust system in many ways is a (possibly failing) libertarian dream - you give people the tools to control their fate but when it doesn't go the way they imagined it, they start begging for regulations and standards and for the dear leader to provide them guidance.

LOL, libertarian. Yeah, lots of people leaving each other alone and observing the non-aggression principle around here for sure.

This system is a pure democracy, and a perfect example of why pure democracy is an utter disaster. As I argued before, the reason the USA is such a successful form of government, is because it is a republic. In a republic the rights of the individual are protected. In a democracy, the mob rules, and the mob takes what the mob wants from the individual. Minority and marginalized groups suffer. A republic places restrictions on what that mob is and is not allowed to do to the individual, providing relative freedom for all compared to a pure democracy. In this case, it would be observable evidence of theft, violation of contractual agreement, or violation of applicable laws before rating. Anything else allows for abuse operated under the guise of policing the forum for fraud, and everyone knows police are never corrupt right?

You keep spreading your fairytales of the evil shady deals of the TECSHARE if it helps you releave your cognitive dissonance. I will keep arguing the facts of the matter.
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
Exactly how does that help when people refuse to enforce the standards of the trust system and continue to include those that abuse it? Further more, they abuse it to keep out anyone who resists this abusive behavior by excluding anyone who is critical of this abuse. It is kind of like saying "Yeah you have free speech, but you can only exercise it in the basement in the dark between the hours of 3AM and 6AM."

It works exactly the same way as it does in any other situation where people disagree with you. You can ignore it, or fight it, or blame everyone for not fighting it for you - whatever makes you happy. None of what you described, even if it's real, prevents you from including the Turks and the Russians exercising your free speech.

The trust system in many ways is a (possibly failing) libertarian dream - you give people the tools to control their fate but when it doesn't go the way they imagined it, they start begging for regulations and standards and for the dear leader to provide them guidance.
legendary
Activity: 2296
Merit: 2262
BTC or BUST
http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5384/53846125.html
secret underground meeting

That would explain a lot..
Looks like some deals are going on here, but nobody cares about TECSHARE..

Extreme out-of-context cherry-picking to turn an obviously sarcastic remark into a serious admission.

Thanks.  It is overt evidence of the same honesty that you usually manifest more covertly.

Yeah, I totally said "Look everyone! nullius admitted to secret underground meetings!".. Nope..
Do you not expect readers to have the capacity to see context?


Do you know anything about any deals made? Eh?
You seem a bit overly defensive on that subject now..\


You May refer to me as cryptohunter if you wish. I may eventually demonstrate I far predate that member.

That would be impressive..
I could vouch for you not being CH with the promise of absolute confidentiality if you wanted to send me some proof..
jr. member
Activity: 42
Merit: 15
Regardless of groundless speculation there is no rage against DT. There is only the call to move to an objective stsndard. I have no idea why you would oppose it. I have no idea because you and every other member here have not presented any valid reason to resist this sensible upgrade.

There is a standard, it's called "make your own fucking standard using your trust list and stop being a salty sockpuppeting dung beetle".

You know full well the system is designed NOT to allow a consistent fair system-wide standard to be set. There will always be set of different standards that destroys free speech and encourages group think and echo chambers.

If you were to present a strong argument to retain red tags rather than move to the objective flagging system that provides a net benefit to the community that was robust. Then I could understand your objection.

My prime concern is free speech, however even should my prime concern be only the financial security / safety of other members It is clear an objective standard focusing exclusively on direct financial risk is superior.

This latest trading of red tag removals and redaction of evidence mutually by those certain for years each other are among the most dangerous scammers here is a clearly concerning.

Please focus on the message rather than the messenger.

To see a transparent set of standards set for all members is my only goal. If you wish to oppose that then I guess we must remain on opposite sides.

You May refer to me as cryptohunter if you wish. I may eventually demonstrate I far predate that member. Then again I may not. It is not worth your attention. You should focus on preparing your argument for retaining red tags if you believe it is genuinely best for the community.

Relax, form your argument and present it snark and sarcasm free. I wish to be civil and accommodating to all members and their views. That does not include scammers. Since you are not a scammer I see no reason to talk to you as one.

This red tag removal bartering attracted my attention. It is a step too far.
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever
Regardless of groundless speculation there is no rage against DT. There is only the call to move to an objective stsndard. I have no idea why you would oppose it. I have no idea because you and every other member here have not presented any valid reason to resist this sensible upgrade.

There is a standard, it's called "make your own fucking standard using your trust list and stop being a salty sockpuppeting dung beetle".

Exactly how does that help when people refuse to enforce the standards of the trust system and continue to include those that abuse it? Further more, they abuse it to keep out anyone who resists this abusive behavior by excluding anyone who is critical of this abuse. It is kind of like saying "Yeah you have free speech, but you can only exercise it in the basement in the dark between the hours of 3AM and 6AM."
copper member
Activity: 630
Merit: 2614
If you don’t do PGP, you don’t do crypto!
http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5384/53846125.html
secret underground meeting

That would explain a lot..
Looks like some deals are going on here, but nobody cares about TECSHARE..

Extreme out-of-context cherry-picking to turn an obviously sarcastic remark into a serious admission.

Thanks.  It is overt evidence of the same honesty that you usually manifest more covertly.
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
Regardless of groundless speculation there is no rage against DT. There is only the call to move to an objective stsndard. I have no idea why you would oppose it. I have no idea because you and every other member here have not presented any valid reason to resist this sensible upgrade.

There is a standard, it's called "make your own fucking standard using your trust list and stop being a salty sockpuppeting dung beetle".
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever
Looks like some deals are going on here, but nobody cares about TECSHARE..

Does he want to be cared about? I get a feeling he's enjoying the little niche he carved for himself. There is some serious competition from cryptohunter V3 in the "rage against DT" competition but he's gonna flame out sooner or later, and TECSHARE will still be here 5 years later barking at passing cars.

I just want equal protection from the rules that are enforced upon me. Nothing more.
jr. member
Activity: 42
Merit: 15
Looks like some deals are going on here, but nobody cares about TECSHARE..

some speculation


v3 or v4? or ...was cryptohunter v2 v5 v9

I guess only you have the answer.

Regardless of groundless speculation there is no rage against DT. There is only the call to move to an objective standard. I have no idea why you would oppose it. I have no idea because you and every other member here have not presented any valid reason to resist this sensible upgrade.

You are a strange guy suchmoon. Perhaps not bad, but your desire to appear both clever and funny is misleading the honest reader here to into forming a more negative opinion than is necessary. Stop it and express yourself without snark and sarcasm and you could be one of the better ones.

Reading back through your early post history is rather interesting. Not in a bad way. You have some interesting enemies. You have some courage I will give you that.

Rather than reply to compliments with snark and disdain remove that chip from your shoulder and stop looking for every avenue to be sarcastic and mean spirited. It's not clever it's not funny.

Good afternoon.

legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
Looks like some deals are going on here, but nobody cares about TECSHARE..

Does he want to be cared about? I get a feeling he's enjoying the little niche he carved for himself. There is some serious competition from cryptohunter V3 in the "rage against DT" competition but he's gonna flame out sooner or later, and TECSHARE will still be here 5 years later barking at passing cars.
legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever
secret underground meeting

That would explain a lot..
Looks like some deals are going on here, but nobody cares about TECSHARE..

That's because this forum isn't run using rules, it is run by popularity contest.
jr. member
Activity: 42
Merit: 15
secret underground meeting

That would explain a lot..
Looks like some deals are going on here, but nobody cares about TECSHARE..

Indeed. However, even if they did, this would not be a solution. The removal of the tagging system is the only possible fix. 

legendary
Activity: 2296
Merit: 2262
BTC or BUST
secret underground meeting

That would explain a lot..
Looks like some deals are going on here, but nobody cares about TECSHARE..
jr. member
Activity: 42
Merit: 15
How stupid is this windbag Nullius?

Puffing away pretentiously and desperately trying to showcase his self taught basement dwelling derived knowledge of classical civilization.

As usual didn't see the obvious suspicion that would arise when mutual red tag removal and post redactions start to spark up simultaneously between members that have been certain for years each other are the most dangerous scammers here. lol

So yes, it is a deal or account sale.

Just like your resurrection straight on to your knees spreading the cheeks of lauda wide open to feast ever more deeply and greedily with each stomach churning  post you stain the forum with.

Your walls of word salad are useful. They can be shredded with minimal effort and used easily to demonstrate the points you try to support are absolute poison.

You're my new favourite member.
copper member
Activity: 630
Merit: 2614
If you don’t do PGP, you don’t do crypto!
I should catch up on this and a few other threads.  Meanwhile, a few quick notes...

Why do you guys keep on fighting? Sad

Human nature, kitty.  From the moment that I saw this, I accurately predicted that trolls would seize the opportunity to attack both you and Quickseller.

(Ain’t it funny, Quickseller:  I have been perennially accused by multiple persons (cough) of being a Lauda alt—and now, you’ve been accused of having sold your account to Lauda.  You see how that works...  Well, I will see you at the secret underground meeting where we get our orders from an evil cat stroking a pet human.  Cheers. ;-)

What I did not expect was for people who customarily lauded your years-long battle to Protect The Forum From Qucikseller to suddenly forget the terrific effort and energy that you expended toward what, for you, could not have been other than a sincere goal of Protecting The Forum.  So, it is now quite suddenly high time to accuse you of anything from foolishness to ulterior motives of scamming with Quickseller?  Perhaps I may still be naïve:  I did not see that coming.  Should have.

I do like it when people show their true colours.  I prefer honesty, whether it’s intentional or not.



To be filed away for anytime that TECSHARE tries to appeal to theymos’ authority:

I am sorry to say it Theymos, but you are a rube.

Just another example of TECSHARE’s recursively descending hypocrisy:

  • When TECSHARE agrees with theymos, and/or can twist a cherry-picked theymos quote to suit his needs:  “theymos says so.  Obey the boss.”
  • When TECSHARE disagrees with theymos:  “Theymos, [] you are a rube.”



in the spirit of Ancient Rome, what has been democratically decided

A small historical aside:  Rome was never a democracy.  In the era of the Republic (including the time of the Punic Wars between Rome and Carthage), it was a society divided into rigid social classes, with most of the power held by patricians as a sort of a large, hereditary quasi-aristocracy.  In the time of the Empire, obviously, Rome was a dictatorship—literally, a dictatorship, starting with the Senate’s grant to Julius Caesar of a lifetime title* of dictator perpetuo.  That was whilst he was alive; after he was dead, they passed a law declaring him to be a god, and the name “Caesar” became a title forever synonymous with “Emperor; lifetime dictator” not only in Latin, but also in German (Kaiser), Russian (Czar), and other languages.

(* In Roman law, the position of dictator had previously a short-term position of emergency power for leadership in times of existential threat to Rome; cf. Cincinnatus, who was glorified for voluntarily renouncing his absolute power of dictatorship as soon as the crisis was resolved—15 days into his six-month legal term as dictator.)

Athens had a bout with democracy.  The right to vote was reserved to free adult male citizens, thus excluding women, metics (legal resident aliens), and a massive slave population—only about 10% of the population had the vote.  The system was still so unstable and prone to corruption that it lasted for less than a century in truly democratic form.

Worst moment of Athenian democracy:  The vote to kill Socrates.  Best moment of Athenian democracy:  The rise of a strongman populist leader, Pericles, whose very name grew to symbolize the glory of Athens at its height.

* nullius doubts that this “democracy” thing ever really worked as advertised, or ever will.
legendary
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I find it utterly hilarious that Quicksy is being praised and showered in merits for merely saying "I was wrong" as if that wipes out years of intentional malicious actions. And he still needs to be pointed to the wrong things that he did - wouldn't this come-to-Jesus moment be more credible if he proactively tried to make things right?

I hope all you nice folks won't be rushing to add him to your trust lists (except TECSHARE who already did of course) just because he said a few PC things. He's still sockpuppetting around and treating you all like lab rats in his little sociopathic experiment.
legendary
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All of the biggest abusers, working together, in harmony. This is the legacy of the trust system.

So you are so up your own arse you think Theymos is an abuser? Fuckwankspazer
legendary
Activity: 3318
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All of the biggest abusers, working together, in harmony. This is the legacy of the trust system.
legendary
Activity: 3010
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I am sorry to say it Theymos, but you are a rube. I share a lot of the same ideological goals as you, but you are far too naive an idealistic to acheive any of them. It cost Lauda nothing to do this. There was no compromise, no sacrifice. If anything this act did nothing but serve Lauda by giving them cover for their other abusive behavior. Your little social experiment failed Theymos, and your willingness to be manipulated by people like this is responsible.

Too bad you're not a senator, theymos isn't an emperor, and this isn't actually Ancient Rome, because that would have been a great speech.

In reality its a forum about Bitcoin, a subject which I've never seen you write one post about. However, in the spirit of Ancient Rome, what has been democratically decided is that your opinion on these matters is, well, less than valuable.
legendary
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Ha ha brilliant, see techcunt. You are the only one banging a dead horse, well CH as well but he is worth less than a pube left on a toilet seat. Not saying you are worth much more.
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