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Topic: [Cult of Lauda] An historic peace: Rome’s treaty with Carthage - page 6. (Read 2087 times)

legendary
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Glad to see people moving on. Didn't think it would ever happen here. Peace in the middle east next?

Bit cringy reading, not gonna lie..
Confusing, forgiving QS while attacking TS.. Hmmm...
Strange times..

Good luck QS..
Do you plan on removing all your reds on Lauda too?

Cringy or not I think people should use this as some sort of seachange or amnesty for all the other petty beefs they're involved with, especially with users who aren't scammers and have just rubbed each other up the wrong way otherwise they'll just continue with tit for tat exchanges for ever and I think there are bigger things to worry about here.
copper member
Activity: 2996
Merit: 2371
Good luck QS..
Do you plan on removing all your reds on Lauda too?
Over the past days/weeks, I have locked various threads that may or may not have been petty fighting among various people. I posted that if someone has what I view to be a serious concern, I will allow it to be unlocked as long as I am confident the person isn’t trolling or causing drama. If someone posts in a thread I opened that is trying to troll or cause drama, it will be quickly locked. I also removed some people who I believe played a minor role in the "sting operation" from being named in the relevant thread title and OP.

I had not reviewed any old trust ratings, as I rarely use the trust system anymore (as far as I can tell, everyone is Trust: +0 / =0 / -0, except those I sent ratings to). I just reviewed my ratings to lauda, and revised them to a single neutral. If anyone else wishes for me to review a rating, they can PM me, and I will look at the rating.

QS - Thanks for that. I removed my negs as well and added a neutral . Hope you can do the same. I'm too old for this petty fighting bs TBH... Tongue

Edit - I also did the same for OG, fuck it....

Thank you.
owlcatz
This is done.  

I also confirmed that my PMs are able to receive messages. I may see your message more quickly than if you post here.
legendary
Activity: 3570
Merit: 1959
Good luck QS..
Do you plan on removing all your reds on Lauda too?
Over the past days/weeks, I have locked various threads that may or may not have been petty fighting among various people. I posted that if someone has what I view to be a serious concern, I will allow it to be unlocked as long as I am confident the person isn’t trolling or causing drama. If someone posts in a thread I opened that is trying to troll or cause drama, it will be quickly locked. I also removed some people who I believe played a minor role in the "sting operation" from being named in the relevant thread title and OP.

I had not reviewed any old trust ratings, as I rarely use the trust system anymore (as far as I can tell, everyone is Trust: +0 / =0 / -0, except those I sent ratings to). I just reviewed my ratings to lauda, and revised them to a single neutral. If anyone else wishes for me to review a rating, they can PM me, and I will look at the rating.

QS - Thanks for that. I removed my negs as well and added a neutral . Hope you can do the same. I'm too old for this petty fighting bs TBH... Tongue

Edit - I also did the same for OG, fuck it....

Thank you.
owlcatz
copper member
Activity: 2996
Merit: 2371
Good luck QS..
Do you plan on removing all your reds on Lauda too?
Over the past days/weeks, I have locked various threads that may or may not have been petty fighting among various people. I posted that if someone has what I view to be a serious concern, I will allow it to be unlocked as long as I am confident the person isn’t trolling or causing drama. If someone posts in a thread I opened that is trying to troll or cause drama, it will be quickly locked. I also removed some people who I believe played a minor role in the "sting operation" from being named in the relevant thread title and OP.

I had not reviewed any old trust ratings, as I rarely use the trust system anymore (as far as I can tell, everyone is Trust: +0 / =0 / -0, except those I sent ratings to). I just reviewed my ratings to lauda, and revised them to a single neutral. If anyone else wishes for me to review a rating, they can PM me, and I will look at the rating.
legendary
Activity: 2296
Merit: 2262
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Bit cringy reading, not gonna lie..
Confusing, forgiving QS while attacking TS.. Hmmm...
Strange times..

Good luck QS..
Do you plan on removing all your reds on Lauda too?
copper member
Activity: 630
Merit: 2614
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Thank you. I am out of merit and source merit, so I cannot merit your post at the moment.

I gave my very last smerit for this (having recently depleted my stockpile by merit-bombing all the awesome translations listed in my signature).  For me to see, “You have 0 sendable merit (sMerit) which you can send to other people.”, it is indeed an historic moment for the forum. ;-)

(Just saw before posting:  Whoops, no longer 0.)

I do promise to not repeat previous mistakes and to always do what I believe to be best for the community.

I look forward to seeing that!
sr. member
Activity: 1288
Merit: 415
One would not imagine how much time many of the user's around were waiting for this peace treaty. Have a nice honeymoon you both !
legendary
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Thank you. I am out of merit and source merit, so I cannot merit your post at the moment.

I do promise to not repeat previous mistakes and to always do what I believe to be best for the community.
Here, have some of those too!



Being so generous here  Grin That's the spirit required here these days.
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 2965
Terminated.
I am probably the most unforgiving person on this forum; and I respect you all the more for this, Lauda.
Thank you!

Thank you. I am out of merit and source merit, so I cannot merit your post at the moment.

I do promise to not repeat previous mistakes and to always do what I believe to be best for the community.
Here, have some of those too!

copper member
Activity: 2996
Merit: 2371
Thank you. I am out of merit and source merit, so I cannot merit your post at the moment.

I do promise to not repeat previous mistakes and to always do what I believe to be best for the community.
copper member
Activity: 630
Merit: 2614
If you don’t do PGP, you don’t do crypto!
I am probably the most unforgiving person on this forum; and I respect you all the more for this, Lauda.

It is indeed an historic forum moment; and as a practical matter, it opens the potential for much good in the future.  When I was a Newbie, someone I respect in the Development and Technology forum quietly advised me that Quickseller has some real skills.  (My contact did not praise him as a genius—just said, he knows his tech stuff.)  This has later influenced my own behaviour in an odd way, insofar as I have shuddered to imagine the time that Quickseller must have invested in all those old flamewar threads instead of building something positive for, foremost, himselfWhat a waste.  It was a practical object lesson to me on the personal cost of perpetual flamewars, whether one is right or wrong.  Well, I am curious to see what Quickseller may choose to build on this forum going forward.

As for you Lauda—no, I doubt anyone will accuse you of “being soft”.  Per my own motto on the subject:  “The harshest judges need the wisest judgment.”



Rome never forgave Carthage:  Instead, they totally annihilated Carthage.  I take it that you are mulling an alternative history:  What if Rome and Carthage had made peace?  It is an interesting thought.
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 2965
Terminated.
After a long debate with myself while watching for evidence of Quickseller's motives, I have tentatively concluded that he is sincere in his current intentions.

Therefore, I have decided to follow the spirit of theymoses advice:

Exercise a lot of forgiveness.

In contrast to the accusations of people who just like to criticize me in every conceivable way, I am interested in cooperating with anybody who genuinely wants to contribute to the community. I believe that Quickseller is a highly intelligent individual which is precisely why I previously saw him as very dangerous (in comparison to just some dumb troll, of which there are many). If he put behind him all the things for which I condemned him, then I want to offer him peace, maybe even friendship, so we can each better work to make this forum a better place - despite any differences of opinion that I will gladly agree to disagree about.
I most of all credit Quickseller for making the first move here, which was a rather very big move. I did not ask for his recent apology; and frankly, I never expected to see that day come within my lifetime. It was also a thing I think he could not have done with ulterior motives: He had no way to predict in advance if I would accept what he said, or reject it with the same harshness I showed when fighting him for years. Furthermore, I have noticed other behavioral traits consistent with this belief (his apology is only what got my attention and woken up my thought process).

Those who know me, also know that I am always vigilant; and out of various criticisms, there's one thing that I have never been accused of: being soft. If there is any repeat of the past mistakes and/or harmful behavior, I do not need to say here what my reaction will be. But I do not expect that to happen! I will support Quickseller's genuine effort toward the long task of rebuilding his reputation; and I earnestly hope to someday see him earn the status of a highly respected member of the forum.

Therefore, I have done the following 2 actions:
1) I have removed any negative ratings on Quickseller, and left a neutral rating referencing this thread.
2) I have withdrawn support for any flags that have been created against his account.

I do not expect individuals to follow me in this peace offering at this time, but I ask and hope that people will be more open towards giving forgiveness where forgiveness is earned - especially given that his arguably biggest enemy (The Catbat Witch) has forgiven him and hereby offers him an olive branch.
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