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Quote from: mk4 on January 15, 2022, 02:16:26 AM

Idunno, since the cybersecurity part of Bitcoin is mostly concerning wallets, the Wallet software section might be the best for it. Or probably even just the Bitcoin Discussion is enough for that. The security subtopic doesn't have THAT much demand to have it's own subforum imo; but I'm not really against it.

There are three potential security concerns regarding bitcoin:
1 - keeping your private keys private
2 - ensuring your full node continues to act in ways as intended
3 - ensuring your miners mine at the pools as intended
There is also a potential fourth regarding clipboard, and display malware.

Issues regarding 1 belongs in the wallets sub, 2 belongs in dev and tech, and 3 belongs in the mining sub.

I don't think there is a high enough volume of these types of threads to warrant a new sub.

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Quote from: takuma sato on January 15, 2022, 02:06:38 AM

Would it be a good idea to have cybersecurity subforum? It is a topic that goes hand in hand with bitcoin.

I don't remember last time when moderators added some new child boards in forum, and I have been saying for some time that we should have some changes.
Adding cybersecurity board could be added but only if related with Bitcoin, otherwise it would probably go to off-topic section.
Lightning Network board could also be interesting, with some different opinions, but Theymos might not be in the mood for adding anything new things in forum, but I could be wrong about that

Quote from: takuma sato on January 15, 2022, 02:06:38 AM

For instance I wanted to talk about bios tampering to see if anyone here is using Heads: https://osresearch.net/

I don't use Heads, and messing around with bios is not advisable for most people.
Even regular update of bios is not recommend to everyone, and should be done only if you need to fix some issue with your computer or enable new functionality.

All standard bios contain proprietary blobs. If you are not using Coreboot, chances are your CPU has Intel ME enabled, which has it's own proprietary OS in it with pretty much full access to your computer at pre-boot times. Anyone that is serious about Bitcoin should be using Coreboot or Libreboot. Most people don't use Bitcoin tho, if you aren't running your own full node you aren't using Bitcoin as far as I can tell. So it all begins with a good defense at the bios level, then you build a decent Linux setup, then install Bitcoin full node client you can trust. Most people aren't even aware of Intel ME and PSP for AMD exist so without addressing that most Bitcoin nodes are potentially compromised by default.

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Quote from: takuma sato on January 15, 2022, 02:06:38 AM

Would it be a good idea to have cybersecurity subforum? It is a topic that goes hand in hand with bitcoin.

I don't remember last time when moderators added some new child boards in forum, and I have been saying for some time that we should have some changes.
Adding cybersecurity board could be added but only if related with Bitcoin, otherwise it would probably go to off-topic section.
Lightning Network board could also be interesting, with some different opinions, but Theymos might not be in the mood for adding anything new things in forum, but I could be wrong about that

Quote from: takuma sato on January 15, 2022, 02:06:38 AM

For instance I wanted to talk about bios tampering to see if anyone here is using Heads: https://osresearch.net/

I don't use Heads, and messing around with bios is not advisable for most people.
Even regular update of bios is not recommend to everyone, and should be done only if you need to fix some issue with your computer or enable new functionality.

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Quote from: Pmalek on January 15, 2022, 04:20:43 AM

I wouldn't mind if such a sub-board got created, but at the same time, I don't think it will. It's desirable to have decent security practices and know how to keep your computer, phone, or wallet safe. But if such a sub was introduced right now, can someone name or recommend 10 threads to be moved there without having to do quite a lot of searching for threads on the forum?

I think it's a great idea.

I found 7 with a short search that I would include, and the last one lists about 30 67....

There are a lot in Beginners and Help, but good links in many other subforums.

2fa in Other/ Beginners and Help - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/guide-how-to-enable-2fa-using-google-authenticator-or-any-authenticator-5041789

Yubikey in Other/ Beginners and Help https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/hands-onyubikey-help-secure-your-digital-assets-including-blockchaininfo-1353231

Keyword storage in Wallet software by N0nce https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/n0nces-steel-washer-backup-jig-customisable-5363596

Wallet Security in hardware wallets https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3176978.40

Malwarebytes (needs discussion) in Digital Goods https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5281484

Spam in Reputation https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5281484

Security in Beginners and Help https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/security-and-privacy-encylopedia-5239098

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I would support this.
Sometimes it's just nice to have a location for little tidbits of information to be posted in one central location that may or may not be impotant to some people. But will get buried in some other locations due to the number of other topics.
As an example I posted this over a year ago: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5282613
There are also a few other firewalls / brands that have vulnerabilities might be nice to have a forum to discuss things like that.

Even if it's just to discuss things like the log4j vulnerability and if it will cause any issues for crypto clients / apps.

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It's been discussed many times before, but it has gone ignored by the admins. I think it's a good idea as there are plenty of topics which deal with general online security and privacy which get lost in various boards, or even worse, moved to Off Topic where they immediately die. The logical place for topics like these would be Off Topic, if Off Topic was actually moderated as advertised ("Other topics that might be of interest to bitcoiners"), rather than just being "Literally any old shit".

Quote from: hugeblack on January 15, 2022, 02:50:27 AM

Therefore, general terms such as "cybersecurity" will be impossible to create a dedicated board for it.

I disagree. Here is a post I made the last time such an idea was brought up: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53974580. I found 14 threads just from the front page of two boards which would belong in such a new board.

Looking at the front page of various boards now, I can see the same again, with threads on passcode lengths and online privacy at the top of Beginners and Help and threads on Firefox and KYC in Off Topic.

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Quote from: hugeblack on January 15, 2022, 02:50:27 AM

In other words, if there are not many topics in the main menu, and there are many discussions about them, a subforum/board dedicated to them will not be created.

Let's take the Lightning Network as an actual example, although there are many topics and many discussions about them, no dedicated subforum/board has been created for them. Therefore, general terms such as "cybersecurity" will be impossible to create a dedicated board for it.

You are very correct about this. When the hype of NFT was high months ago and the demand was coming in but the board was not created. That was when I knew that the admins are not interested in creating boards or childboards that will not last or people will run out of discussion within a short time.

The Lightening network was a surprise to me when I search the forum but I didn't see any board for it. But in Development Board is saw _Rath always discussing it. I believe one of the reason why it has not gotten a childboard is that I always see a high user countering everything about Lightening network. His name is franky1. Not that he does not have nice points, he has many good points and I always read them. If childboard is created for LN, there can be home for arguments only and the purpose of the board will not be achieve.

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I wouldn't mind if such a sub-board got created, but at the same time, I don't think it will. It's desirable to have decent security practices and know how to keep your computer, phone, or wallet safe. But if such a sub was introduced right now, can someone name or recommend 10 threads to be moved there without having to do quite a lot of searching for threads on the forum?

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Quote from: takuma sato on January 15, 2022, 02:06:38 AM

It is too niche to get any serious replies outside of development subforum but I think that's off-topic.

From my experience, if you share good content in the Development & Technical board, your chances of having your post removed are inconsiderable, even if it isn't that on-topic. Don't hesitate to share your thoughts about something that you consider important.

This forum is known for hugging high quality posting.

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Regardless of the nature of the board and its importance, unless there are enough topics and discussions about it, a new board will not be created.

In other words, if there are not many topics in the main menu, and there are many discussions about them, a subforum/board dedicated to them will not be created.

Let's take the Lightning Network as an actual example, although there are many topics and many discussions about them, no dedicated subforum/board has been created for them. Therefore, general terms such as "cybersecurity" will be impossible to create a dedicated board for it.

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Idunno, since the cybersecurity part of Bitcoin is mostly concerning wallets, the Wallet software section might be the best for it. Or probably even just the Bitcoin Discussion is enough for that. The security subtopic doesn't have THAT much demand to have it's own subforum imo; but I'm not really against it.

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Would it be a good idea to have cybersecurity subforum? It is a topic that goes hand in hand with bitcoin. Without a good setup hosting your private keys is useless, you might as well have them on an exchange than host them on some Windows machine.

For instance I wanted to talk about bios tampering to see if anyone here is using Heads: https://osresearch.net/

This I think is a key factor that no one is talking about. Checking the integrity of the bios, not only corebooting it. This way you could avoid man in the middle attacks that would go unnoticed.

I wasn't sure in which subforum to post this. It is too niche to get any serious replies outside of development subforum but I think that's off-topic. In a dedicated subforum we could share different techniques to improve the setup.

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