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Quote from: bsdunx on September 11, 2015, 08:10:55 AM

I deposited BTC into my other accounts which I have not used for 3+ months since the deposits on them ...

Still the system discovered multiple accounts from one IP. Secondly of course using high multipliers are another reason as well to get banned, as stated in our Anti-Faucet Farming Policy https://www.dadice.com/print?farming. This policy is there for months and has been discussed here before. Almost daily accounts are getting suspended and it doesn't matter what the amount supposed to be withdrawn is.

Quote from: shitaifan2013 on September 11, 2015, 07:37:24 AM

agreeing with NicoNL on this topic.

also, it appears that dadice might be running out of funds. they haven't made any net profit with the site itself and are actively trying to sell it.

otherwise it doesnt make much sense, why they wouldnt honor such a win.

No we don't run out of funds, we have just concluded the sale of dadice and are currently in a transitional phase.

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Quote from: ndnh on September 11, 2015, 07:43:25 AM

Sorry for being early. Figured out I got some more time. Cheesy

Well, dev is the one who is taking actions on such matters, so it is not about multipliers or anything . He admits to using multi-accounts too:

Quote from: bsdunx on September 11, 2015, 07:12:49 AM

90% of those claims were this spring, I also deposited > 5BTC into dadice on my various accounts, losing 1.76BTC on asdfgh alone.

I deposited BTC into my other accounts which I have not used for 3+ months since the deposits on them ...

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Quote from: NLNico on September 11, 2015, 03:30:13 AM

Quote from: ndnh on September 11, 2015, 03:16:41 AM

@NLNico I wouldn't expect you to side with DD anyway. Wink

That is simply unfair. The motivation given by DaDice before my reply was "he used high multipliers" and "is against TOS". These are not acceptable arguments for banning and stealing from someone. I always give arguments when I say something and don't simply accuse sites or people without arguments.

Still 3935 times is unclear to me. Did he use multiple accounts?

IMO the faucet functionality is the problem. If he was able to get "too many times" (whatever that amount is?) faucet claims on 1 account, then the time limit should simply be bigger?! So if he was able to get it every minute, maybe put a limit of an hour? Etc. If he was never supposed to get "so many times faucet claims", then the system should be the one to control this. Seems fairly easy to me. If he tries to cheat it with multiple accounts, THEN I could agree he was wrong.

Also curious in what timeframe these 3935 times was. Like I said, I could see "automated faucet claiming" as a fair argument against "farming", and in that case I think timeframe is relevant.

Sorry for being early. Figured out I got some more time. Cheesy

Well, dev is the one who is taking actions on such matters, so it is not about multipliers or anything . He admits to using multi-accounts too:

Quote from: bsdunx on September 11, 2015, 07:12:49 AM

90% of those claims were this spring, I also deposited > 5BTC into dadice on my various accounts, losing 1.76BTC on asdfgh alone.

Quote from: shitaifan2013 on September 11, 2015, 07:37:24 AM

stuff.

@bsdunx you can argue with Da Dice. There are some people around here who is dying to do something to Da Dice. So, may be talk to them privately? Dev may not know when you made the faucet claims unless he went that deep, etc. So, though the chances are thin, you can still talk to DD guys for a good explanation.

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I would not object to being interviewed by any crypto-currency related publications on this matter.

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agreeing with NicoNL on this topic.

also, it appears that dadice might be running out of funds. they haven't made any net profit with the site itself and are actively trying to sell it.

otherwise it doesnt make much sense, why they wouldnt honor such a win.

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Quote from: ndnh on September 11, 2015, 03:16:41 AM

One sec. Conversations from dev.

@asdfgh redeemed faucet 3935 times total. He has had been playing against Faucet Farming policy described on site.

Normally people come under review when they withdraw, since there are hundreds of people doing this everyday.

Apart from that TOS clause 4.6 clearly explains our policy.

4. Your Representations and Warranties
4.6 there is no obligation to honour withdrawal requests that are a result of faucet use only.

even if he withdrew 0.001 instead of 10
he would be suspended like all others

Edit: that is from original source. I was assuming it was because of multiplier or something. It isn't. The system flagged his account for faucet abuse.

@NLNico I wouldn't expect you to side with DD anyway. Wink

90% of those claims were this spring, I also deposited > 5BTC into dadice on my various accounts, losing 1.76BTC on asdfgh alone.

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Quote from: ndnh on September 11, 2015, 03:16:41 AM

@NLNico I wouldn't expect you to side with DD anyway. Wink

That is simply unfair. The motivation given by DaDice before my reply was "he used high multipliers" and "is against TOS". These are not acceptable arguments for banning and stealing from someone. I always give arguments when I say something and don't simply accuse sites or people without arguments.

Still 3935 times is unclear to me. Did he use multiple accounts?

IMO the faucet functionality is the problem. If he was able to get "too many times" (whatever that amount is?) faucet claims on 1 account, then the time limit should simply be bigger?! So if he was able to get it every minute, maybe put a limit of an hour? Etc. If he was never supposed to get "so many times faucet claims", then the system should be the one to control this. Seems fairly easy to me. If he tries to cheat it with multiple accounts, THEN I could agree he was wrong.

Also curious in what timeframe these 3935 times was. Like I said, I could see "automated faucet claiming" as a fair argument against "farming", and in that case I think timeframe is relevant.

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One sec. Conversations from dev.

@asdfgh redeemed faucet 3935 times total. He has had been playing against Faucet Farming policy described on site.

Normally people come under review when they withdraw, since there are hundreds of people doing this everyday.

Apart from that TOS clause 4.6 clearly explains our policy.

4. Your Representations and Warranties
4.6 there is no obligation to honour withdrawal requests that are a result of faucet use only.

even if he withdrew 0.001 instead of 10
he would be suspended like all others

Edit: that is from original source. I was assuming it was because of multiplier or something. It isn't. The system flagged his account for faucet abuse.

@NLNico I wouldn't expect you to side with DD anyway. Wink

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Quote from: ndnh on September 11, 2015, 03:07:40 AM

Quote from: NLNico on September 11, 2015, 03:04:50 AM

ndnhc, you are not serious in defending this, right? I don't care at all about any T&C, if the T&C says they can steal all the money of their users, it doesn't make it morally right.

Yep, I am. What is your definition of faucet abuse? Wink

Edit: Talk to you later.. Have to go.

I would say these options (depending on the details):

Quote from: NLNico on September 11, 2015, 03:04:50 AM

If he was botting (getting faucet in an automated way), multi accounting or hacking.. please tell me, so I can understand what's going on here.

If DaDice gives too much faucet money away, they should change their faucet payouts or even cancel their whole faucet program. But banning and stealing from the players who got lucky with it, is IMO very wrong.

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Quote from: NLNico on September 11, 2015, 03:04:50 AM

So he doesn't get his money because he used high multipliers? LOL. What is exactly the limit that you are "allowed" to win with faucet? 1 BTC? 0.1 BTC? Nothing?

If he was botting (getting faucet in an automated way), multi accounting or hacking.. please tell me, so I can understand what's going on here.

ndnhc, you are not serious in defending this, right? I don't care at all about any T&C, if the T&C says they can steal all the money of their users, it doesn't make it morally right.

I agree with you NLNico, what's the use of giving an increased faucet to players who wager a lot then ? To 'keep on testing' ?

I've seen players on PD reaching a few btc from the faucet and cashing it out without issues. As long as they don't 'hack' or use an automated bot to abuse it.

I don't see how claiming and betting on a high multiplier is against the TOS. lmao.

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Quote from: NLNico on September 11, 2015, 03:04:50 AM

ndnhc, you are not serious in defending this, right? I don't care at all about any T&C, if the T&C says they can steal all the money of their users, it doesn't make it morally right.

Yep, I am. What is your definition of faucet abuse? Wink

Edit: Talk to you later.. Have to go.

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So he doesn't get his money because he used high multipliers? LOL. What is exactly the limit that you are "allowed" to win with faucet? 1 BTC? 0.1 BTC? Nothing?

If he was botting (getting faucet in an automated way), multi accounting or hacking.. please tell me, so I can understand what's going on here.

ndnhc, you are not serious in defending this, right? I don't care at all about any T&C, if the T&C says they can steal all the money of their users, it doesn't make it morally right.

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Quote from: euripide on September 11, 2015, 02:50:22 AM

ndnhc but you are the lawyer of dadice ?
Take his defense than his two accounts, which writes only to promote the jackpot Grin

LOL, just putting in what I think. Grin

Admin already said the ban is as per the T&C and Anti-farming policy of Da Dice.

I think you are talking about the pr one. what is the other??

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i don't use faucet , is waste time, but don't like when site promote the faucet and later ban user for have won more. I think user of big dice site, like primedice,earn more of 10 btc to faucet in total, and i don't have see accuse of account closed.
You don't like spend more for faucet user? Simply, stop faucet option or low a faucet to 200 satoshi.

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Quote from: euripide on September 11, 2015, 02:50:22 AM

Quote from: ndnh on September 11, 2015, 02:46:17 AM

Quote from: james.lent on September 11, 2015, 02:43:01 AM

Quote from: asuspc on September 11, 2015, 02:29:30 AM

Even primedice takes actions against faucet farmers and confiscates their balances.

No they dont if you legitimately roll. Only those who use bots get bans.

If someone gets to 1-2% of their bankroll they sure would. Wink

Faucet isn't supposed to make people rich, lol without any risk.

Faucet farmer = anyone who doesn't use the faucet for the intended purpose and turns out to get rich on that. Grin

Sites are liberal, but with that amounts, they can't..

ndnhc but you are the lawyer of dadice ?
Take his defense than his two accounts, which writes only to promote the jackpot Grin

Everyone is free to present their opinion, its a free-speech forum. And is something wrong ,if someone takes the sids of DD? That should mean everyone to go against it, your logic here is real bad mate.

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Quote from: ndnh on September 11, 2015, 02:46:17 AM

Quote from: james.lent on September 11, 2015, 02:43:01 AM

Quote from: asuspc on September 11, 2015, 02:29:30 AM

Even primedice takes actions against faucet farmers and confiscates their balances.

No they dont if you legitimately roll. Only those who use bots get bans.

If someone gets to 1-2% of their bankroll they sure would. Wink

Faucet isn't supposed to make people rich, lol without any risk.

Faucet farmer = anyone who doesn't use the faucet for the intended purpose and turns out to get rich on that. Grin

Sites are liberal, but with that amounts, they can't..

ndnhc but you are the lawyer of dadice ?
Take his defense than his two accounts, which writes only to promote the jackpot Grin

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Quote from: james.lent on September 11, 2015, 02:43:01 AM

Quote from: asuspc on September 11, 2015, 02:29:30 AM

Even primedice takes actions against faucet farmers and confiscates their balances.

No they dont if you legitimately roll. Only those who use bots get bans.

If someone gets to 1-2% of their bankroll they sure would. Wink

Faucet isn't supposed to make people rich, lol without any risk.

Faucet farmer = anyone who doesn't use the faucet for the intended purpose and turns out to get rich on that. Grin

Sites are liberal, but with that amounts, they can't..

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Quote from: asuspc on September 11, 2015, 02:29:30 AM

Even primedice takes actions against faucet farmers and confiscates their balances.

No they dont if you legitimately roll. Only those who use bots get bans.

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Quote from: euripide on September 11, 2015, 02:33:02 AM

Quote from: asuspc on September 11, 2015, 02:29:30 AM

Even primedice takes actions against faucet farmers and confiscates their balances.

asuspc can you explain me please what are the faucet farmers? I have read more time this world in this thread but i don't have understand. Thanks

faucet farmers? they just use faucet and never deposit.?
from what i know faucet are just for player testing the game,
and if wanna make serious money, please just make deposit..
make sense if player use faucet and win up 10BTC, Shocked

and got banned.
if im a admin i would banned it before he cashed out. Cheesy

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Quote from: euripide on September 11, 2015, 02:33:02 AM

Quote from: asuspc on September 11, 2015, 02:29:30 AM

Even primedice takes actions against faucet farmers and confiscates their balances.

asuspc can you explain me please what are the faucet farmers? I have read more time this world in this thread but i don't have understand. Thanks

its more or less relying on faucet of different bitcoin sites for your daily bread and butter... For godsake find a day job!

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