Topic: DARKCOIN (NOW KNOWN AS DASH) BIG SCAM?? let's take a closer look - page 4. (Read 13948 times)

Your accusation is that the coin is a scam.  Don't back out now.  You have provided absolutely zero evidence to support this accusation.  This is the definition of libel.


No, no, no, young man.  You don't understand how this works.

When you make the accusation, the burden of proof rests on YOU, not me.

If it happened?  Yes it happened, everybody knows that.  The real question is whether it was malicious or not.  So what, exactly are you trying to do here?  Do your mommy and daddy not give you enough attention at home or something?

Oh a libel suit for highlighting the truth? i think not.

Well you were suggesting no windows wallet wasn't a big issue, coupled with no pools then how would you suggest people mine?

I don't care what difference you consider to make. I care about examining if it happened or not. The block explorer is the evidence go take a look yourself then come back and tell me what you see. Perhaps the block explorer is lying.... can you launch a libel suit against a block explorer telling its version of events?

Self Moderated. Nice, I see what you did there.

Define "large number" in terms of the current difficulty and block reward.

Where did I say I could compile windows qt from source?  News to me .

Maybe this is what you're referring to?  Perhaps if you weren't deleting legitimate posts like a silly child, you could better follow the conversation:


Ahh, so it's a great conspiracy!  It all makes sense now!  The great DRK instamine of 2014 - they "stole" it all and hid it all!  And you have unambiguous evidence to support this?  Do share!

Lol.  Let me give you some advice: when you feel that you need to resort to conspiracy theory to make your argument seem valid, chances are you're full of shit.  

I know you're not quite there yet, but, when you become a grown-up, you'll understand that when you make an accusation such as the one you've made, it is necessary to present evidence and sources to support your accusation.  Feel free to do so at any time.

It means nothing.  Hmm.  Very interesting when it's well known that many of the first miners either sold or gave away their coins.  Where did all these stolen riches get off to?  Why do I give a shit about what happened before I ever bought into the coin?  How does this affect me, right now, as an investor?  You're not making any sort of a clear case.

Again, in the real world, you would be asking for a libel suit.

I had to skip forward maybe some people spoke on this but I'm sure you people remember the bum rush of Scrypt coins coming out early to mid January. Everyone was looking to be the next doge style coin early adapter.  But filled with plenty of new people (myself included) were still asking how to setup Scrypt miners etc etc.  It wasn't like right now, we are lucky enough to recieve an sgminer update for every new algo coin within a couple days.  I downloaded xcoin on Jan. 20 didnt mine a single block.  On the 22nd I got the cpu miner for xcoin, still didn't mine a block.  I didnt do much with Xcoin I was concentrating on Vert, KDC, Net2 etc.  I picked up on Dark coin Jan 30th. used the xcoin cpu miner and solved 8 blocks in 36 hours then stopped and moved on.  I picked up the Dark GPU miner around Feb 16th and mined the fake stacycoin with it.

Reason for saying this crap,

Just because you didn't pay attention to a coin doesn't mean it was unfairly released.  Many of you are happy with multipool or pointing Scrypt rigs at one spot for .015 a day and that's .5 BTC a month.  I mined 20 different coins in January took a risk and wow I have .6 btc worth of dark, the rest are garbage.  No risk no reward.  I try not to even pay attention to Pre ANN coins, instant networks of 1G/hash+ seconds after launch? No thanks I'll never find a coin in that environment.  Then again I'm not a professional.  I do think that taking the time to mine a few blocks on the new algorithms is worth while.  TWE, Aiden, Groestl, Fugue, Heavy, X11.  

Side note I don't personally think anyone should be rushing to switch their coin to a new algo, How many Quark clones did we see recently with Soma, Probe, Prt, o2o, net2, FRQ, FZ, Doug, Cnote etc etc.  Quark is secure, Quark runs cool on my gpu, and none of those coins are on the front page of the announcements often these days.  SO how long do you think Hiro, Stacy (already dead) and the next wave of derivatives will stick around.  

TLDR:
1. as an early adopter of dark I made what I expect a normal person mining scrypt would make in a month.  Just mine was in 1.5 days instead of over the month, so I dont think there was anything unfair about the early progression of its development.  Every coin is in development!  
2. in case its not clear, I support Dark and its innovation aside from x11, and x11 is neat too.  I dont see any case where a coin coming out that doesnt have something newhas room to survive.

why are you asking the same things the other drk shill asked....two posts above....can you not read?? are you so blinded by greed?

wallet distribution NOW means nothing...not that it actually ever means that much you can swap coin to different wallets easy.... surely a super brain like you who can compile windows qt from source knows you can move coins between wallets right?? or you didn't try that yet .... hehe press send see what that button does.

Yes it's amazing isn't it.

Stop bumping this you drkcoin hater. Let it sink. Do keep trying to subvert the truth coming out.


I have answered your question... yes about the wallet if you say it is so easy to compile windows wallets from source then why did the super brain dev not do it for us. I opens up larger questions. One of their devs said they did not know how to compile the windows qt. Yet you're saying everyone else should be able to? please fool i can't waste time arguing with people who don't read the thread or post stupid things over and over.

This compile your own windows qts at launches is stupid ...so stop looking pathetic grasping at straws.

"Noob".  Lol, you're cute.  I see now what I'm dealing with here.

Again, I'll ask you, how many DRK are still in the top 10 wallets?  Why should that number bother me?  What evidence exists to support the accusation that the early issues were anything other than accident or oversight, as chronicled here?  Please tell me where you get your 2M figure from.


Lol.  You and that nutjob Glen Beck.  Just asking questions, right?

Please feel free to present any evidence whatsoever of malice.  You can't, but I'll still wait.  So will everyone else.

Noob please give up. The dev himself want a 2million air drop to smooth over the scam clearly highlighted in this thread over and over. I can only think you are anti dark coin keep bumping this.

I'm not interested in how difficult you feel it is for people to compile their own windows qt. If it is so easy how come this highly regarded super brain dev could not do it..... or maybe he could but didn't want to??

You dumbo's keep making things worse for yourself.... please stop the drk community is suffering at your hands.

It is very telling that everyone here either denying or justifying is a big poster in the dark thread...lol.  No impartial people have come to excuse the scam.

Define "large number" in terms of the current difficulty and block reward.

The fact that there were a large number of coins mined at launch, somewhere between 1.5 and 2M.  Please don't put words into my mouth.

Again, where do you get your 2M figure?  Source please.

Wait you said this is public knowledge, are you now saying that it isn't true?

Out of curiosity, where does the 2 million figure come from?  Please cite the source.  I've seen numbers ranging from 1.5 - 2M, so I'm just curious as to where your information originates.

I'm also curious as to how much DRK is still tied up in the top wallets, because the figures I've heard are nowhere near 1.5 - 2M.  If what I've heard is true, please let me know why I should be afraid of this coin as it is right now.

Everyone on the bitcointalk thread was told and it is discussed there regularly.  The dev mentions the issues with the launch on the darkcointalk thread (though, admittedly, no numbers).

Sorry I missed the part on the DRK ANN thread OP where it says that 2 million coins were instamined, please take a screenshot for me so I can locate it.

No no, I'm a grown up I can handle my poor decisions with good grace.

If you wouldn't mind, please tell me know many coins are currently held in the top, say, 10 wallets, as well as what the top holder owns.  Then explain to me how the numbers you find should have me shaking in my boots.

Please also explain how full disclosure of the issues in the ANN thread and by the dev himself amount to the coin being a "scam".

Thanks   

"Exposing"?  This is all public knowledge and always has been.  Dredging it up now for no good reason other than to stir up shit is more or less the definition of trolling.

Some people like to learn the hard way, good luck holding and mining this.

Don't cry when you lose it all though, you were warned several times.

It is essential because people like you REFUSE to stick to the OP. You will try to find a way to draw discussion from the OP topic on to something else.

To me it looks like the case is open and closed. I am happy to leave it closed now. If you keep bumping it it will remain open.

Nothing of note was deleted. Any points raised true or not were not related directly to the examination this thread was intended for.

I'm bored of it entirely. However will ensure the facts stay straight until it's closure.

That is right.... anyone not posting FACTS supported by hard evidence to refute the instamine scam is bumping this thread to the detriment of drk coin.

It is fine to highlight a scam for a while. But constant bumping makes even reading about a scam get boring. Let the thread sink. Everyone has read it now.

Only post if you have specific evidence that refutes the instamine. Else you are causing further damage.

The fact the actual dev wanted to redeem this coin with the airdrop is enough for me to believe that he recognised the mistake wanted to redeem the coin. The drk holders would not let him for their own reasons.

  

If he was willing to make some ammends it is enough for me. It is better than some devs anyway. The drk community are protecting their investment... fair enough.

This i understand... but do not tell me it did not happen, that it was okay for it to happen for whatever reason.

 It did happen and it is not okay.

END OF STORY.

How is exposing the instamine "trolling" ?

If you were serious about it you wouldn't start a self moderated topic, don't fool yourself.