Topic: DASH added to BTC-E. Monero not - page 2. (Read 7905 times)

Not sure I ever called you a dash shill, and I didn't just now, but if you think dash is a nice thing or this discussion thread isn't about hashing out which coins are legitimate technology and which ones are just here to rip off noobs or worse, then you'll probably never get why I criticize dash. What I don't get is why anyone defends it, but that's why there is a continual rehashing of the same points that get lost over time and need to be revisited. I went to the trouble of creating the centralization and shitcoin logic threads, so I didn't have to waste time repeating the same thing to people who either have terrible memories or are willfully trying to bog down the argument by repeating the same logically fallacies, spin, ect., over and over and over again. You don't see the situation as I do, and that's fine, but let's try and keep it from ad hominem attacks of accusing me of being paid or any other speculation that gets away from fact and into straight trolling or (like why sputz is on ignore) piling accusations on top of each other and creating busy work for me as I try and detangle innuendo from fact--that's what I was talking about when I wrote, "I'll probably have to post a "guide to time wasting management for trolls and shills," so Sputz gets that most people get his game."
  

again, i couldn't care less about any altcoin. i'm here for bitcoin and sometime i trade some altcoin for fun.
so yeah, you can believe i'm a dash shill as much as you want, is not true at all.

the reason i still keep on posting against the monero-troll-wave is because you guys turned this forum in a shit storm and is really annoying to see for MONTHS the same posts by the same people pushing the same agenda. why can't we have nice things in this world?

I'm posting this minutes after you posted, therefore I must be getting paid--right?

Here's more shitcoiner logic you can throw at me since you can't explain away your lead Dev criticizing your privacy scheme while shilling the vaporware intended to fix it--maybe someday he'll have the whitepaper with the required math to fill in the gaps. My guess is greed and fantasy will do the job for most dashers in the meantime.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14509987

I'll probably have to post a "guide to time wasting management for trolls and shills," so Sputz gets that most people get his game.

i do believe there is some wealthy monero investor that pays $$$ for certain posts.

otherwise i cannot explain how this people are:

- ready 24/7 to reply any damn post in a matter of seconds
- repeating the same things over and over for months (try to go back 10 months in the forum history and you'll find the same people posting same crap)
- creating multiple account with very similar writing style, often questioning each other

almost everyday i get censored (post removed) for my opinion about this monero supporters so i do believe i'm not completely wrong, i wonder how long it will take to get this post removed aswell

In time i HAVE been trying hard to tone it down and turn the other cheek.
I don't want to be the abrasive confrontational problem guy around here.
I also think you all can spend your BTC on what ever Altcoin you want..

I have a problem with IPO / ICO's big time..
2nd of all i have a problem with the supporters (Shill's) of coins
who hang around the Crypto scene with this attitude like they are perfect and have done no wrong.

I have said for almost two years the biggest problem i would see with Morono
is the behavior of the "usual suspects" that swirl around it.

If there is anything that casts a negative light on Monero the same 4 or 5 guys spring into action
With mass denial.
And then they go on the attack with Dash yet again.
I had guys rag on me about this on IRC a few times..
They say why don't you go after Dash guys ? ..their coin is fundamentally just as bad etc.

And i said yeah you *may* be right but the key difference i see is the Monero crew's behavior.
Like they may be a similar functioning coin with similar features
but the similarity ends there.. then it comes down to the "community" behind them.
So compare them !

I also said that it makes no difference if Dash is a scam when criticizing Monero.
So what ? Does Dash being a scam lend more credibility to Monero being more legit ?
NO.
Monero has to stand on it's own two feet.

I personally believe Anon coins are a bad idea and will be tough to keep secure over time.
(Who's security job is this ? the "NOT" Team Members ?) You have faith in them vs the worlds hackers ?
I also think they drove the ANON gimmick idea way back as a means to justify doing *another* coin.
2 years ago they couldn't simply make a clone of Litecoin and parade it around.
They needed to put a gimmick in and some convoluted Anon crap was just what was needed.

This whole crew were doing this shit before Monero existed..
And common sense tells you that these "dev's" simply refine their game.
Tripping these guys up used to be sooo easy the further you go back.
But in time they caught on and started to get more crafty with their shenanigans.
And the new guys buy into their crap with out question.
And i know what that is like i was eating up Feathercoin's crap babble when i got here way back as a Noob.
You think think Phenix / Unocs guys simply wandered off forever ? How about the ORB dev's ?
Fuck no ! ..these same sleazy scammers are STILL here STILL making "schemes" !

The Monero guys KNOW damn well they are watched and criticized.
And they should be too.
When that guy i mentioned shows up he acts like the Monero "Team" has not been caught up in drama.
I have watched these guys for 2 years and i could write a 2 inch thick book about Morono shenanigans.
and what bothers me to no end is the DENY each and every single part of it then go on in compete denial.
Which example do you guys want ? i could pull out tons of them.

It's not about making 'A' mistake..
It's about denying you ever made even ONE in your life.

Mew topic ?
How does 2 guys who said they are NOT on the Monero team control the coin ?
With no oversight ?
An inept kid and a millionaire bag holder who was a noob to Altcoins until he made a few hundred grand worth..
and other misc bag holder knobs looking for a paycheck.

Coming from guy(s) who said they are "leaving bitcointalk" almost 2 years ago.
..after the whole crypto scene revolted against them way back for their non stop spamming.
Then they never did leave.. then later, they claimed that huge drama never even happened !

Then they claim they never advertised here ever.
Then we see the MEW topic Treasurer who is holding the donated Monero coins.
Caught in a news story about his associates arrested for FRAUD by the FRENCH POLICE
..with that story tied to him admitting he STARTED a Monero "Marketing Company"
Then we have the other NOT a TEAM Member on the MEW topic "mighty king Risto"
saying he spent the donated funds his not a team member treasurer was holding (David Latapie)
On a topic here he claimed was a "powerful adoption asset"
When one of their own Monero supporters asked did you get permission to spend the donated funds ?
King Risto declared the guy a Troll then answered his question (on the MEW topic)
Saying yeah, he spent the money and NO he got no permission from anyone.
On what ?

- They said the money was earmarked for adoption..
and that he thought the best plan was to create a Bitcointalk forum game here called "Retro City"
Where he was hanging out on Poloniex way back and had told me laughing he made thousands
on his first forum game topic.. so duh like WTF guys what the fuck does that have to do with "Adoption"
And how the hell does that translate into and i quote "a powerful adoption asset"
Then take away my OWN OPINION and read the MEW topic..
The person that asked was not impressed with being called a "Troll" and said hey look, i am SUPPORTER
but i just have questions.. and their own supporters were NOT impressed with that stunt either !

Don't believe me ? the guy is on the bottom of the user list on Cryptsy IRC 24/7 (wpalczynski)
and the MEW topic shows the info for all to see.. Monero Economy Workgroup - The MEW Thread
And yet all we hear from Monero shills is they are squeaky clean with a sparking flawless perfect reputation.
They have done no wrong ever and then they play the victim and cry FUD & Troll non stop.
While scheming their fucking ass off for years on end.

The loser(s) swirling around the coin have screwed it up bad and ruined any chance it ever going anywhere.
It is run by clowns who are not "a part of the team"
..yet make the decisions and spend the money etc.
Then run here and Troll on Dash and run their mouth and play innocent..

At the end of the day if you all want to invest in their "Anon" coin then go for it.
I am simply trying to say dig beneath the surface and look at their LOOONG history of shenanigans.

And... when it comes to Dash,
Those guys just have not been feeding me all along for 2 years all that crap antics here on the forum.
Those guys seem to have a the ability to keep their spamming to a fair level etc.
Do we see a Dash spam topic on the very top of page one here 24/7 for 2 years ?
I am fine with all of them advertising etc it's just that the Monero guys make up 90% of all of it
and then have the balls to come here for 2 years saying they have never ever made any effort to do so.

(if people did not tell them to STFU i can't imagine how bad they would be by now)

While admitting word for word they started a Morono marketing company
and then created a forum game to spam here for "powerful adoption assets"
This type of moronic scheming deceptive clowny behavior makes me distrust them !
This is not how HONEST people behave..

PS:
Don't forget to buy your Monero merch "secure & untraceable" hoodies <-- a real thing 
..then head over to Poloniex and buy some ANON coins with your picture ID.
Then, Buy some Crack & AK47's on the new Silk Road and let me know how "untraceable" it REALLY is 

@Spoetnik


You need to cut loose and let these clowns get the full on "Spoetnik Experience"


We need some Spoetnik classic!


I don't think they could handle it.



~BCX~

generalizthis, Has been on me 100's of times before..
100% of the time he pops up to *try* and defend Monero
..other than that you won't see him say a word.. ever.
His account is solely used for Shilling Monero.

He claims to have me on ignore ?
Ya because i have utterly pwned his ass to hell & back 100's of times before.
..always over MONERO.

The guy simply sucks balls at Shilling Monero.. he is bad at it.
Every time he opens his mouth he digs a hole for himself deeper & deeper..
His no. 1 go to routine / retort tactic is to create diversion and then
start arguments about something else.. (he thinks thinks helps him win arguments)

generalizthis is a clown and i laugh at him  

Lets start with his last "i have you on ignore" reply i just got.
He has no other accounts and has me "on ignore" yet he seen my comment ? ROFL
He DOES have other accounts and he is denying it knowing theymos won't tell me even
if theymos had hard proof.. so he is lying again ..because he's a liar.

And of course he won't tell me how many Monero shitcoins he is bag holding.
He says it's none of my business ?
Actually it IS my business and it puts his intense ridiculous never ending shilling / trolling into context.
And his answer was rather telling regardless.. he basically admitted now he DOES have some.
So we can safely bet he's sitting on a rather sizable pile of Monero shit coins.

I can smell this Monero cockroach a mile away.
He could pick any account name and i will smell his "fungability" ass in heart beat.
theymos would know ?
Not if he used a proxy

And that snotty mouthy little shill-tard tried saying he had me on ignore ?
BULLSHIT !
He did NOT have me "on ignore" WHEN I HAD ASKED MANY TIMES BEFORE.
He had heard me before quite clearly and is yet again lying through his teeth.
See that right there show cases the type of deceitful games he plays here all the time.

Every time i pwn his ass hard here he vanishes for another month or two  
..go back to hiding Monero clown baggy.

Drown Monero tard's your retard scam coin is sinking like the titanic and you deserve it too.
Why ?
Because the people who have swirled around it for damn near two years
are sleazy manipulative deceitful little bag holders following Risto around looking for scraps.
And the public sees who is behind this shit coin and they steer clear of it !
Risto the rich guy's coin and his dev who takes a "pay check" and
their bagholder spamming shill clowns deserve to go broke.

I highly advise people to avoid this scammy Monero ANON gimmick crap ponzi coin.
Do NOT buy their bags !

PS:
Ignore this Investard..

DASH has got about 6 months to last on BTC-e you know how it is over there, coin goes on, coin goes off when volume drops.  DASH has very low volume.

Hmmm....

Not sure if invalidating your current anonymity scheme with the promise of vaporware is "good promotion," but as they say, "One man's trash is another man's bag to defend and hold at even the cost of cognitive dissonance."

thanks for reposting, i haven't watched that q&a in awhile. good stuff! 

LOL.

Here's Evan saying that the current dash anonymity scheme isn't what you want--maybe he'll put out a white paper with the required math a few months after he's said that it's fixed. Even the "lead scientist" of dash thinks you're wrong.

Min 2:13 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5sNx7SMTP8

I really need to add decentralized to that list also--how else are you supposed to make it antifragile enough to disrupt the current system?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/why-dash-fails-decentralization-1443867

e-cash must be fungible, untracable, unlinkable. Dash being the best implementation of these values -> added to btce

I had you on ignore, so tough to answer any question that I hadn't read.  

How many coins I own is none of your business, just like my paycheck is none of you business--unless you get a job with the IRS, this will continue to be none of your business forever and ever and ever.

I have one account that I post with and that is it. I think I created another one over a year ago, but never posted with it--the Mods can validate that and I'd have no problem with it.

Now, you're going back on ignore--annoying that you talk to me like I don't have you on ignore when I've stated that you are. I might have to just respond that you are on ignore so you don't play the "Look he's running from my question!" card again.

@generalizethis
..any time i have asked you questions you have vanished.

- Tell us all how many and which accounts you have posted here with.
- Then tell us all how many Monero coins you have and when did you start hoarding them ?

Like i get it your a shill but i have reminded you many times that you are not good at it.
You do more harm than good yet ..plow on.

Anyway this really is shocking news to me wow.
I did not expect to see this coming.. BTCe rarely add's new coins.

And YES this does reflect badly to some extent on Monero i think.

you are the zealot here DSH Dashcoin copycat..who would say anything just to further your own agenda.

wanna call me icebreaker again? haha

I'd rather the coin was built to standard before the official wallet was released, not vice versa. Priorities. Also, bloat is well handled by the DB and I can handle CLI, so don't worry about what me or the Monero Devs should focus on.

You rather support a project and it's developers, who didn't even invent the innovation you seek, but rather forked it and couldn't come out with a wallet in 2 years? Sorry, but it shows heavy incompetence. Don't even expect them to fix the memory heavy and bloated nature of that blockchain in the near future (if ever).

Not saying you should support DASH, but stop licking the balls of the Monero devs already.

Considering it has cryptographers and dashers are paying for soda machines and advertisements instead of designing a cryptosystem that works as stated--I think you're projecting your own delusions onto a community that understands that technology is built on math, not empty promises.

But gen, I wasn't offtopic, this entire topic was meant to exhibit that Monero intrinsically runs on the delusional idea that it is a bitcoin successor, that its privacy function is THE privacy function the world needs and all the bla. Its not an important coin and its not needed, its not famous and its time is passé.
Why do Munero supporters dont understand this, I mean still? Its really weird
I thought u were much smarter than this, u should be able to see through this easily.

~CfA~

Guess they can't treat missing sarcasm as of yet. Now we're both off-topic.