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jr. member
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July 19, 2021, 09:50:18 PM
Daytime operation income is 50%, holding income is 5%. This is very likely to happen, and I call this kind of forecasted return a legend.

The fact is that if we continue to trade, the return is indeed not as high as the long-term holding return. The trading turnover rate is generally 100%-200%, and there are often many wrong decisions in such frequent operations.

So in my trading philosophy, I will choose 2-3 value coins and keep them, regardless of price or fluctuation, and put them in my wallet. After 2 years or longer, I will reconsider whether to continue holding. This is what many veterans told me about their experience.

I want to say that if you want to get more profits in this market, you must hold it for a long time.
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July 19, 2021, 05:40:16 PM
Holding is the best strategy for those who don't want to trade or can't trade.

Holding pays off, other trading can go either way. Daytrading specifically is a bit of a hard thing to do (trading intra day can be difficult). Dcaing or other tactics can be a lot easier to carry out and tactics like "buy the fear, sell the silence" might even work better than some day trading.
Well i think most times it depends on individuals, like you already said to person who can't trade, holding is the best for them because there have no option, if there trade there will accumulate more loosing trades. For a person who knows how to trade might earn so much from trading due to his experience and the market decision, such a person might earn huge from trading than holding.
legendary
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July 19, 2021, 04:08:47 PM
It is not debatable because we all have our own way on how we wanted to deal with our investments .

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You are right. Everyone has their own way of trading. They have a technique they like and what they think is best. I myself am always learning now I use three techniques, day trade, weekly and arbit. Of the three techniques it must have a profit and loss target management. It aims to reduce failure. In addition, emodi control is also very influential in trading. Don't be greedy, don't be in a hurry, if you can't control it all you will lose.
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July 19, 2021, 02:45:44 PM

Yes either day trading or holding it can make profit and it depends how we usually make profit,
besides that the coins we have will affect our strategy,
let's just say if we have bitcoin and ethereum I think it's better for us to hold on to long term

If you do both, it's still good for you, if you are good in short-term trading, I'm pretty sure you are better in long-term holding or investment. Enough knowledge of the market will bring you profit in the long run, and if you try to master, you should master day trading as due to market volatility, day trading would always bring more opportunities to make money.

Long term trading takes years for you to earn, at least we have to be conservative as the best market situation where we can maximize our profit is on a bull run, and you might still not be satisfied with what you earn when that time comes due to your small capital, but if you keep growing that through day trading, you can easily achieve your target profit.
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July 19, 2021, 01:14:01 PM
Probably it depends on personal taste, the more you trade the easier it gets to feel the next market trend on smaller timeframes. Holders can make the same ROI in few months with the day trader who spend his time to analyze the market staring the screen for long hours. Focusing on the market and letting the market bring you whatever it can is easier for all types of traders.
Well, they are both the same that you can get ROI, but the difference is the time frame when you can get it. If you want to hurry to see your ROI, trading is the best part of you than investing and hold for a long time. They had always opposite reactions because trading is very risky while investing is less of a risk. However, there are too many people who like trading than investing even though they know that the risk to too high in trading as far as the ROI will potentially get if you are very lucky.
Well, the day trader gets for example 30 pips a day(for simplification) while the swing trader gets the 1000 pips per month just for following the trend. If the trend is up and there is no enough correction to trade the best option is to join the trendmakers instead of scalping on smaller timeframes. Regarding the risk, it is risky to wait for reversal and cut the losses on small timeframes compared to long-term well-planned trades, IMHO.
In short, it all boils down to your skills in trading, if you have the skills in day trading and you have proven yourself that you can be profitable, then we can assume that day trading is more profitable for you as the market is so volatile and you have more opportunity to make profit compared to holding or long term trading.
Yes either day trading or holding it can make profit and it depends how we usually make profit,
besides that the coins we have will affect our strategy,
let's just say if we have bitcoin and ethereum I think it's better for us to hold on to long term
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July 19, 2021, 12:14:55 PM
Holding is best for those who has not so much time tobread charts, project sentiment and specially for those who has not much time like me.
However daytime trading is much beneficial than Holding. I use daytime trading when free .
hero member
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July 19, 2021, 10:21:06 AM
I've tried both, but for me daytrading is to nerve wrecking.

Depends upon the experience though but I do agree with you.

I remember I tried daytrading and risked about $100 worth of BTCs and I lost like $20 in the process. I mean, the sky's the limit in terms of potential income. But the risk attached to it is really not worth it in my case especially that I was just a beginner.

HODLING, on the other hand, presented me with huge success so far. I started HODLing some of my BTCs back in 2017 and its price just skyrocketed on its own. Unfortunately, I sold most of my BTCs before it reached the $20,000 mark but it still presented me with some profit at the end.
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July 19, 2021, 10:12:51 AM
If am to compare Daytrading and Holding in terms of risk and rewards involved,  Daytrading has a component of high risk and high reward while Hodlers take the low risk and low reward which many of us see as the undesirable and long route.

Holding is the best strategy for those who don't want to trade or can't trade.
Besides not knowing  how to trade or not wanting to trade, holding could also be considered less stressful and a safer option as you don't need to be looking at charts regularly or required to have the technical knowledge on how to go about it.
hero member
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July 19, 2021, 08:54:24 AM
Traders jump in and out of stocks in weeks days and even minutes with the goal of making short term profits they often focus on the technical factors of a stock rather than a long term prospect of traders holding is the best way to move forward and how traders can make a profit from this move. Here you can hold the currency of your choice there is no possibility of reduction if the price increases you will get profit.
legendary
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July 19, 2021, 08:36:28 AM
I can't trade well, then what i do is only holding. Honestly i don't know what taxes is, because in crypto market i think day trade and holding have same percentage about fees, if not want to pay less we can be taker which we who put order and let others take out our order and be maker.
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July 19, 2021, 08:36:13 AM
It is not debatable because we all have our own way on how we wanted to deal with our investments .

Daytraders usually the people we can call as Risk takers because they can let their money goes with unexpected outcomings.

Holders Usually the people that loves to risk but willing to wait and this is much safer than the first.
And it is our decision which one we feel we are better at and we can perform so well.
I'll take them both but base on my experience, Holding is best for me as I kept on losing in trading no matter I choose reliable coins. Trading needs more special skill and depth of market knowledge and I know that not all of us have that stuff.

Holding might think it was so easy, but mostly we find it wrong because if you are also an impatient person, it definitely a big struggle for you.
sr. member
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July 19, 2021, 07:48:05 AM
It is not debatable because we all have our own way on how we wanted to deal with our investments .

Daytraders usually the people we can call as Risk takers because they can let their money goes with unexpected outcomings.

Holders Usually the people that loves to risk but willing to wait and this is much safer than the first.
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July 19, 2021, 05:08:34 AM
It's probably more than just the situation, it's more of a how are you as a person when it comes to investments because if you don't exactly know how you are for long-term or short-term then you will end up choosing the wrong thing of the two which is going to be unprofitable for you.
And that also can result with a good experience and lesson if that person who ended up badly wants to take another try.

It's important to distinguish your focus on the market, as a day trader or a holder. Everyone can be an easy holder but not an easy trader since it's requiring more actions than the usual holding.
Probably it depends on personal taste, the more you trade the easier it gets to feel the next market trend on smaller timeframes. Holders can make the same ROI in few months with the day trader who spend his time to analyze the market staring the screen for long hours. Focusing on the market and letting the market bring you whatever it can is easier for all types of traders.
So you choose what makes you comfortable.

Are you going to be a day trader or be a simple holder that just watches the market's situation without any need to panic if it starts to drop a lot.

Well, many have already tried to become a holder and it's been worthwhile with all of those experiences that I've got from it.
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July 18, 2021, 04:26:16 PM
Probably it depends on personal taste, the more you trade the easier it gets to feel the next market trend on smaller timeframes. Holders can make the same ROI in few months with the day trader who spend his time to analyze the market staring the screen for long hours. Focusing on the market and letting the market bring you whatever it can is easier for all types of traders.
Well, they are both the same that you can get ROI, but the difference is the time frame when you can get it. If you want to hurry to see your ROI, trading is the best part of you than investing and hold for a long time. They had always opposite reactions because trading is very risky while investing is less of a risk. However, there are too many people who like trading than investing even though they know that the risk to too high in trading as far as the ROI will potentially get if you are very lucky.
Well, the day trader gets for example 30 pips a day(for simplification) while the swing trader gets the 1000 pips per month just for following the trend. If the trend is up and there is no enough correction to trade the best option is to join the trendmakers instead of scalping on smaller timeframes. Regarding the risk, it is risky to wait for reversal and cut the losses on small timeframes compared to long-term well-planned trades, IMHO.
In short, it all boils down to your skills in trading, if you have the skills in day trading and you have proven yourself that you can be profitable, then we can assume that day trading is more profitable for you as the market is so volatile and you have more opportunity to make profit compared to holding or long term trading.
legendary
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July 18, 2021, 04:12:44 PM
Probably it depends on personal taste, the more you trade the easier it gets to feel the next market trend on smaller timeframes. Holders can make the same ROI in few months with the day trader who spend his time to analyze the market staring the screen for long hours. Focusing on the market and letting the market bring you whatever it can is easier for all types of traders.
Well, they are both the same that you can get ROI, but the difference is the time frame when you can get it. If you want to hurry to see your ROI, trading is the best part of you than investing and hold for a long time. They had always opposite reactions because trading is very risky while investing is less of a risk. However, there are too many people who like trading than investing even though they know that the risk to too high in trading as far as the ROI will potentially get if you are very lucky.
Well, the day trader gets for example 30 pips a day(for simplification) while the swing trader gets the 1000 pips per month just for following the trend. If the trend is up and there is no enough correction to trade the best option is to join the trendmakers instead of scalping on smaller timeframes. Regarding the risk, it is risky to wait for reversal and cut the losses on small timeframes compared to long-term well-planned trades, IMHO.

The more we trade commission paid to broker, exchange becomes bigger and add the commissions to the total loss at the end of the week. For the lower commission, long-term traders will get a higher return on the investment while you will waste your time staring at the screen as a day trader. Sounds like a fair deal for whales but the situation is a bit different for small investors.
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July 18, 2021, 03:59:16 PM
Probably it depends on personal taste, the more you trade the easier it gets to feel the next market trend on smaller timeframes. Holders can make the same ROI in few months with the day trader who spend his time to analyze the market staring the screen for long hours. Focusing on the market and letting the market bring you whatever it can is easier for all types of traders.
Well, they are both the same that you can get ROI, but the difference is the time frame when you can get it. If you want to hurry to see your ROI, trading is the best part of you than investing and hold for a long time. They had always opposite reactions because trading is very risky while investing is less of a risk. However, there are too many people who like trading than investing even though they know that the risk to too high in trading as far as the ROI will potentially get if you are very lucky.
legendary
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July 18, 2021, 03:46:30 PM
It's probably more than just the situation, it's more of a how are you as a person when it comes to investments because if you don't exactly know how you are for long-term or short-term then you will end up choosing the wrong thing of the two which is going to be unprofitable for you.
And that also can result with a good experience and lesson if that person who ended up badly wants to take another try.

It's important to distinguish your focus on the market, as a day trader or a holder. Everyone can be an easy holder but not an easy trader since it's requiring more actions than the usual holding.
Probably it depends on personal taste, the more you trade the easier it gets to feel the next market trend on smaller timeframes. Holders can make the same ROI in few months with the day trader who spend his time to analyze the market staring the screen for long hours. Focusing on the market and letting the market bring you whatever it can is easier for all types of traders. HODL and long term trading are two different phases, the HODL can be a lot longer than few years but long term trading can be adjusted based on the market and portfolio performance, IMO.
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July 18, 2021, 12:16:24 PM
It's probably more than just the situation, it's more of a how are you as a person when it comes to investments because if you don't exactly know how you are for long-term or short-term then you will end up choosing the wrong thing of the two which is going to be unprofitable for you.
And that also can result with a good experience and lesson if that person who ended up badly wants to take another try.

It's important to distinguish your focus on the market, as a day trader or a holder. Everyone can be an easy holder but not an easy trader since it's requiring more actions than the usual holding.
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July 18, 2021, 11:16:34 AM
This is something that people never consider but that it is quite important, very few people can day trade for long, some fail because they lose their money but even those that earn money cannot do it for long and it is precisely because of what you are mentioning, having to watch the markets every day and earn profits sounds great but once you begin to do it you realize how hard it is not only at a psychological level but the physical exhaustion is real as well, which means very few people can do it for long before getting tired of it.
right, the first time after entering the market, of course people will feel tired either physically or psychologically. but over time we will start to be able to enjoy it, our job is only to analyze and place transactions by placing targets and stop losses, so after that we can do other activities and wait for the final result. different from holding we can be more relaxed
There is no doubt that there are many people that at first will find trading hard but then as they get used to it they will begin to get accustomed to and they will be able to make trading their main profession, but there are many people that despite being able to generate profits cannot do it anymore and that is because day trading is an incredibly exhausting activity, this does not mean that they will leave the markets completely behind and most likely they will become positional traders that only make a few trades each month.
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July 16, 2021, 09:02:51 AM
Daytrading is something you should have to manage the market on the dynamic way where does essentially implies that you would require time and appropriate exertion for you to manage unpredictability. It discover to be less secure and this makes a few group to outflank in exchanging yet rather to decide to simply hold as it were.
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