Topic: Dayun Zig Z1 - Lyra2Rev2 6.8GH/s Asic miner - page 19. (Read 42511 times)

Dear Zigminer,

Asicminervalue is not showing right numbers. I can trust directly to what am i receiving to my wallet. And it's 5-6 Usd today. What we gonna do about it? DO you have any suggestions? or we will close these machines.

thanks for detailed information. i found some pinidea infos too but your information and explanation is great. i wonder one thing dear astraleureka how do you know this much information. do you think correlation between old sfard and baikal like pinidea and zigminer

Wrong. ASICs can be built to be partially generic or support multiple algorithms. This was proven very early, SFARDS had a BTC/LTC chip in 2013. Every single ASIC Baikal has released is multiple algorithm, even if it is just variants like CN and CN-lite on the Giant N.


Again, wrong. Zig (aka PinIdea) uses a FPGA controller on the board to manage each hash card, but the actual hashing chips are ASIC. There is a low power Altera Cyclone FPGA used as a controller, not strong enough to do hashing.


You are manufacturing 28nm chips however, the costs involved are definitely lower than what is happening at Bitmain. If your statement is true, there is a major disconnect from your public products and the truth.


I have been making this statement repeatedly already - THIS IS ALREADY WHAT IS HAPPENING. PinIdea was previously a manufacturer of X11 miners and released a Cryptonight classic miner in late March. Shortly after the drama about the Cryptonight algorithm switch, PinIdea's website vanished and all mention of their products dropped off the net. ZigMiner is clearly a rebranding of the PinIdea company despite their denials:

• The units are physically identical to PinIdea. The PinIdea's Raspberry Pi was custom fabbed and had a golden PinIdea logo on it, I would be interested to see if that is still present on the ZigMiner controller board.
• The specifications for the ZigMiner R1 is identical to the PinIdea RR-200/210, and not similar to any other Cryptonight miner on the market.
• The specifications for the ZigMiner D1 is identical to the power draw per-chip for the PinIdea DR 100 Pro.
• The firmware on the ZigMiner Z1/Z1+ has a few files that explicitly mention PinIdea, and the general structure of the firmware is identical to the firmware on the RR-200/210. The RR-210 used the same FPGA_download.sh file in /root to upload the bitstreams to the FPGA controller.

Couple things:

For the manufacturer to come here and answer questions and take shots (rightfully so...) shows some support of the products that they are putting out. It would be extremely easy for them to close this company, open a new one and sell a new miner with none of these consequences. I am not defending them, because I bought a Zig Z1+ and have had a myriad of issues from day one. Im running 9/30 fw, and its "kind of" stable, but I would say overall I'm not exactly happy with my purchase. Im just trying to point out that at least someone is here responding and creating fw's around some of the ideas that have been thrown around by its customers. Hopefully this means a better product experience for all of us (but maybe not.) We all took a big risk buying from a company that we weren't familiar with.

Secondly, there are a ton of people complaining about the profitability dropping in the last couple weeks. The market is in the shitter. Every single ASIC in the world is experiencing much lower profits today than it was 30 days ago. Also, the more ASICs they sell the more the profits drop. I cant imagine someone bought a $6000 machine without knowing this is fact. AND, if you are buying these machines for just the profits that you see right now, I would imagine that you will have a very bumpy ride through this journey. If you are in it for the long haul, then a down turn in the market isn't a terrible thing. It may drive away some competition, and will certainly stop some new players from entering the space.

Just my 2 cents

As far as I know, the first batch of Z1, dayun is priced at more than $7,500.

We produce a small amount, but we invest as much as Bitmain,  our unit cost is high.

Zig is maybe a FPGA too, if you look at the running process and the start command, you can see it run FPGA_download.sh at each start

LOOOOOOL.
an asic only has 1 algo. others are FPGA. Pandaminer is GPU not asic..

At the actual bitcoin price, no, it's not
I got mine for 6k$ and I can make around 10$ per day (after electricity)
I have the Zig Z1+ and it's supposed to do 7.2 Gh/s, but in reality I'm only getting 6.6 Gh/s stable

The only way to get back the money from it is to continue mining until it's not profitable anymore at all and hope for bitcoin to moon then sell all the BTC accumulated

You must know. ASIC have multi-algorythm like as Obesilic, Baikal , Pinldea, panda miner

Aren't these still pulling profits? We pulled the listing as no demo's were sent. Wanted to how well they hash after a few buyers pulled out since we've never touched one and from reading here there a number of inconsistencies. Be nice to confirm.

first learn what an ASIC is. then complain.

Now problem is not to get a 6.7Gh as describe but  Zigminer can be use this miner to hash another algorythm ? to make a way to your customer to make a profit.

I warn you, any manufacturer of asic. If u produce a asic and sell them in high price and didn't give any customer to make a profit. Customer will not buy it again. Just make a customer to get some profits.

@ZIGMINER
please do not get me wrong.
the die is cast. now what should we do. you have the source code and knowledge of this device. device and its software has a lot of problems to make it fix. as you say above.
we need stability of hashrate. we need oc if possible. we need spare parts. we need repair guide. we need support service....etc

Feel free to sell your, personally I'll keep mine

BTC price was almost divised be two since the miner was sold, I'm accumulating BTC while everyone complain and stop mining, and when bitcoin will moon, Zig Z1+ will be a pinata full of money

dayun's reseller websites sold it around 4500 ~4850 usd. dayun just make profit 10 percent. i asked you: is this machine worth 4350 usd.how much profit do you make. we paid  alot. most of us paid around 5500 ~6000 usd.roi is around 600 days. think about it. now is here most of zig1 owners sell their machines just 2000 usd.

if you referenced asicminervalue.com, it is WRONG. now real value is 0.018 ~0.020 btc or around 8~9 usd gross profit.(including electricity). net profit  lower than it depends on electrcity cost. net profit is around 6 usd. think about it. it is priced 1000 times more

At the beginning of the first batch (2018/08) , our sales price did not exceed $4350. Dayun as our agent added too much money. I am sorry to be late for our website.

https://www.asicminervalue.com/ 

Today it's about 6-7 USD!!!

Hi.  I use the nicehash Pool .

And see this photo

https://imgur.com/a/q4tFI4U