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Quote from: ddd1 on March 02, 2012, 01:04:09 PM

I'n beginner when it comes to mining and choose mining on deepbit and have couple of questions:

1. I have proportional mining and have 1380Mhash according Guiminer, according http://www.alloscomp.com/bitcoin/calculator.php I should be getting 28bitcoins/month.
But I have now mined 24/7 for a couple of days and according my own calculations I'm about 20bitcoins/month this calculation is confirmed by the deepbit site which says I have 0.65bitcoins last 24h.

What could cause me mining 20bitcoins instead of 28bitcoins with 1380mhash?

2. My understanding is that the proportional mining takes 3% fee, considering deepbit has wery high pool rate my understanding is usually the variance should be low on mined bitcoinst in relation to my mhash, so it should be around 28bitcoins?

3. Besides the 3% fee are there other fee's aswell?

1. Yes, our variance is pretty low, but even at this size it can swing to ±30% daily. Usually it averages out in a few days.
For example, during the last 2 weeks our average luck was somewhere about 4% better than expected.
You aren't "mining 20 bitcoins" unless you tried to mine all the month.

2. No, there are no other fees.

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How is that private team join code coming along?

I was not sure if someone is interested in that.
Will try to do something.

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Quote from: ddd1 on March 02, 2012, 01:23:37 PM

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Well, I'm just guessing, but we just had a difficulty increase and the so called "luck" on deepbit has been bad the last couple of days. I don't know if that would make up your 8 BTC difference or not.

I wouldn't try to extrapolate into the future but rather track an entire difficulty period and see how that measures with your expectation.
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I'm still new and learning, so I guess there is a luck factor with all pools including deepbit, so this could explain why my average bitcoins/month is 20 instead of 28?
So with neutral luck my 1380mhash should get 28bitcoins/month but couple of bad days of luck it shows as 20bitcoins?

Also my calculations was based on last difficulty (1496978) so that should not explain 20bitcoins vs 28bitcoins

Well your at almost a 30% disparity. I'm not sure what your calculator is using for the basis, I would assume it is using the difficulty to calculate it. When the luck figure comes back up on the stats page you may be able to see how your mileage is varying a little better. But anyway I would say the luck is a partial reason for your difference. These income calculations are only estimates and you shouldn't count on their accuracy.

I hadn't paid attention to the actual difficulty, it seems that it was a very minor increase if your difficulty of 1496978 is what it was.
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Well, I'm just guessing, but we just had a difficulty increase and the so called "luck" on deepbit has been bad the last couple of days. I don't know if that would make up your 8 BTC difference or not.

I wouldn't try to extrapolate into the future but rather track an entire difficulty period and see how that measures with your expectation.
Sam

I'm still new and learning, so I guess there is a luck factor with all pools including deepbit, so this could explain why my average bitcoins/month is 20 instead of 28?
So with neutral luck my 1380mhash should get 28bitcoins/month but couple of bad days of luck it shows as 20bitcoins?

Also my calculations was based on last difficulty (1496978) so that should not explain 20bitcoins vs 28bitcoins

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Quote from: ddd1 on March 02, 2012, 01:04:09 PM

I'n beginner when it comes to mining and choose mining on deepbit and have couple of questions:

1. I have proportional mining and have 1380Mhash according Guiminer, according http://www.alloscomp.com/bitcoin/calculator.php I should be getting 28bitcoins/month.
But I have now mined 24/7 for a couple of days and according my own calculations I'm about 20bitcoins/month this calculation is confirmed by the deepbit site which says I have 0.65bitcoins last 24h.

What could cause me mining 20bitcoins instead of 28bitcoins with 1380mhash?

2. My understanding is that the proportional mining takes 3% fee, considering deepbit has wery high pool rate my understanding is usually the variance should be low on mined bitcoinst in relation to my mhash, so it should be around 28bitcoins?

3. Besides the 3% fee are there other fee's aswell?

Well, I'm just guessing, but we just had a difficulty increase and the so called "luck" on deepbit has been bad the last couple of days. I don't know if that would make up your 8 BTC difference or not.

I wouldn't try to extrapolate into the future but rather track an entire difficulty period and see how that measures with your expectation.
Sam

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I'n beginner when it comes to mining and choose mining on deepbit and have couple of questions:

1. I have proportional mining and have 1380Mhash according Guiminer, according http://www.alloscomp.com/bitcoin/calculator.php I should be getting 28bitcoins/month.
But I have now mined 24/7 for a couple of days and according my own calculations I'm about 20bitcoins/month this calculation is confirmed by the deepbit site which says I have 0.65bitcoins last 24h.

What could cause me mining 20bitcoins instead of 28bitcoins with 1380mhash?

2. My understanding is that the proportional mining takes 3% fee, considering deepbit has wery high pool rate my understanding is usually the variance should be low on mined bitcoinst in relation to my mhash, so it should be around 28bitcoins?

3. Besides the 3% fee are there other fee's aswell?

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Quote from: slider1978 on March 02, 2012, 08:55:45 AM

I thought we were waiting for April 1st now? And also on this very page Tycho has said "Yes, a notice will be posted. I think that I'll have to implement it in next month..."

It doesn't work quite like that. The next check for P2SH support is March 15th, at that point the last 1000 blocks need to show at least 55% (550 blocks) support. If there is 55% support, the change will be scheduled for April 1st. Most likely there will be a rolling 2-week window which means that the support will be checked every two weeks. So Tycho would need to add support within days for the March 15th check to go through, otherwise the earliest check to pass is April 1st and then P2SH would be enabled probably 15th of April.

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Quote from: Technomage on March 02, 2012, 07:40:28 AM

The recent Linode hack scandal is a sign that we DO need multisignature support for Bitcoin. It would help increase the security of Bitcoin usage to a whole other level. Tycho, the community is waiting for your move.

I thought we were waiting for April 1st now? And also on this very page Tycho has said "Yes, a notice will be posted. I think that I'll have to implement it in next month..."

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Quote from: ataranlen on February 29, 2012, 11:18:07 AM

Quote from: DeepBit on February 29, 2012, 11:15:28 AM

Actually you CAN go back all the way

As for showing block numbers - technically it's possible, but there is no real purpose for this. All blocks are pretty much the same anyway.

Stats by date only lists 5 dates. I see no other obvious way to browse further back.

Just keep subtracting 86400 off the number for each day. 86400 seconds = 24 hours.
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Quote from: DeepBit on February 29, 2012, 11:15:28 AM

Actually you CAN go back all the way

As for showing block numbers - technically it's possible, but there is no real purpose for this. All blocks are pretty much the same anyway.

Stats by date only lists 5 dates. I see no other obvious way to browse further back.

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Quote from: ataranlen on February 29, 2012, 09:29:55 AM

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Quote from: cmg5461 on February 28, 2012, 12:09:24 PM

Quote from: ataranlen on February 27, 2012, 03:37:45 PM

I Found two more blocks recently, And I don't know what days they were on :o

I found a block today too.
Would be nice to see the block # users have found!

"Your" block is marked in bold text at the stats page.

I'm aware of this ;) Its just a matter of after that day is long past, you can't go back and see which blocks you found

Actually you CAN go back all the way :)

As for showing block numbers - technically it's possible, but there is no real purpose for this. All blocks are pretty much the same anyway.

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Quote from: DeepBit on February 29, 2012, 04:56:21 AM

Quote from: cmg5461 on February 28, 2012, 12:09:24 PM

Quote from: ataranlen on February 27, 2012, 03:37:45 PM

I Found two more blocks recently, And I don't know what days they were on Shocked

I found a block today too.
Would be nice to see the block # users have found!

"Your" block is marked in bold text at the stats page.

I'm aware of this Wink

Its just a matter of after that day is long past, you can't go back and see which blocks you found

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Quote from: os2sam on February 27, 2012, 12:18:07 PM

[Tycho] and/or Deepbit,
Will you be posting a notice prior to implementing BIP16 voting?

Yes, a notice will be posted.
I think that I'll have to implement it in next month, but at least now you are still safe from BIP16 :)

Actually I'm a bit worried that the percentage of BIP16-supporters stopped growing.

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Quote from: cmg5461 on February 28, 2012, 12:09:24 PM

Quote from: ataranlen on February 27, 2012, 03:37:45 PM

I Found two more blocks recently, And I don't know what days they were on :o

I found a block today too.
Would be nice to see the block # users have found!

"Your" block is marked in bold text at the stats page.

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Quote from: ataranlen on February 27, 2012, 03:37:45 PM

I Found two more blocks recently, And I don't know what days they were on Shocked

I found a block today too.

Would be nice to see the block # users have found!

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I Found two more blocks recently, And I don't know what days they were on Shocked

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[Tycho] and/or Deepbit,
Will you be posting a notice prior to implementing BIP16 voting?
Thanks,
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Would you guys please stop this and take it to one of the BIP 16 threads. It’s impossible to find out updates to Deepbits service with all this chatter. If I were Tycho I would be ignoring my own thread with all this extra debating going on!

Point taken.
Sorry,
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