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legendary
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ETH bellow $1000 today...

Waiting for the difficulty of it,the Ethereum network to adjust to it,or said in other words,seeing a lot of people shutting down their operation while the others who will continue to mine at a loss maybe,will keep collecting more and more of the coin they receive the payout from mining.So far it is not materializing but I think it will do in the next couple of days.Difficulty still well above that 13.5 P but I am sure we will see that below 12 or even further below that which will make the people who continue mining getting generous mining rewards daily.

That is my comment for Eth below 1000 Grin.
When to buy Ethereum?
I do not think that miners will immediately turn off their mining farms, because there are 3-4 months left until the end of mining. For example, I will wait for this event and I will mine, maybe it will be delayed until next year.
sr. member
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Hurrah for Karamazov!
Or maybe the fall in the price of ethereum before the merge will be a good opportunity for investors to buy ethereum from miners and holders, because then it will be much less on the POS algorithm.Lido Staked Ether STETH is cheaper than Ethereum, and after the merger, 1 STETH will be exchanged for 1 ETH.
Hopefully, it won't fail like Luna lol
but yes, buying stETH at a discount seems like a better choice if you want to hold for long.


This merge can become very scary with the potential of destroying the whole crypto sphere.
Devs definitely want the merge, but they will betray the timeline for the security of ETH. They would want to be extra sure, now more than ever.
By 'crypto' are you including Bitcoin? I still think even if ETH completely fell apart Luna-style, BTC will still live on and in the next bull market 90% of investors would focus on BTC instead of these altcoins. It would only help Bitcoin in the long run.
but too many things rely on ETH(like tether). That's where my concern comes from.

ETH bellow $1000 today...
damn, $50M ETH liquidated in the last 24 hours
let's see how it will impact the devs
legendary
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Bitcoin Casino Est. 2013
ETH bellow $1000 today...

Waiting for the difficulty of it,the Ethereum network to adjust to it,or said in other words,seeing a lot of people shutting down their operation while the others who will continue to mine at a loss maybe,will keep collecting more and more of the coin they receive the payout from mining.So far it is not materializing but I think it will do in the next couple of days.Difficulty still well above that 13.5 P but I am sure we will see that below 12 or even further below that which will make the people who continue mining getting generous mining rewards daily.

That is my comment for Eth below 1000 Grin.
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legendary
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ETH bellow $1000 today...
full member
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This merge can become very scary with the potential of destroying the whole crypto sphere.
Devs definitely want the merge, but they will betray the timeline for the security of ETH. They would want to be extra sure, now more than ever.
By 'crypto' are you including Bitcoin? I still think even if ETH completely fell apart Luna-style, BTC will still live on and in the next bull market 90% of investors would focus on BTC instead of these altcoins. It would only help Bitcoin in the long run.
legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1131
Or maybe the fall in the price of ethereum before the merge will be a good opportunity for investors to buy ethereum from miners and holders, because then it will be much less on the POS algorithm.Lido Staked Ether STETH is cheaper than Ethereum, and after the merger, 1 STETH will be exchanged for 1 ETH.
sr. member
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Hurrah for Karamazov!
Consensus layer dev call wrapped up:

1) Mainnet shadow fork #7 to take place next week.
2) Sepolia testnet beacon chain to also launch next week, TTD/merge the week after.

So Sepolia testnet could be done by Jul 1 with Goerli to follow after. Since Ropsten was done Jun 8, Sepolia planned for Jul 1, if the same one month spacing is followed Goerli could be done by start of Aug. So mainnet could be in Sep.pda

Also, EIP-5133's 700,000 block adjustment to the difficulty bomb offset has been accepted and implemented in code. Three execution layer clients already have updated code releases, fourth client to release by today or tomorrow. This offset corresponds to an approx 3.5 month adjustment and means the ~15 sec block times being experienced now will instead occur by the end of Sep.
Thanks again for the constant updates. I have been busy with college and work lately, so can't keep a track of the merge. I used to check Tim Beiko's tweets for updates when I was active on Twitter, but now I just check this thread and your replies especially.

According to odds, there's a 50% chance of merge coming in September.

I sold my 1.5-years old 3080s too at MSRP last month. Now they are going for half the price lol
I'm glad I sold 15 or so video cards this week at MSRP prices too. I bought the RTX 3060's for $570, made $120 of mining profit on each one, then sold them for $300 net. That is a loss, but it could be much worse. They make 50 cents of profit/day now, plus my power cost will rise from 8 cents to 10 cents. Not worth it. I'll wait until the big crash, then I can likely buy back these RTX 3060's for just $170.

indeed. This bloodshed will turn many devs into Judas. People think differently when it's about survival.
I'm a developer and I'm not afraid at all. The most successful crypto companies were started during the bear market. They already built the technology by the time the bull market started, so they were prepared for the massive influx of new users. I remember creating a Coinbase account back in 2016, seeing the website improve, then seeing them handling all the new users in 2017-2018 effortlessly. But I don't use Coinbase anymore.
Given how so many projects are already failing under the stress. ETH can suffer the same fate if there's a bug in any major client. This merge can become very scary with the potential of destroying the whole crypto sphere.
Devs definitely want the merge, but they will betray the timeline for the security of ETH. They would want to be extra sure, now more than ever.

Let's wait for the gray glacier now, that update will provide a good answer to WEN MERGE question. For now, it seems to be mid-September(refer to cudapop's reply for the particulars)
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late 2024 - 2025 not earlier, the devs wait for the start of the next bullrun and most asics have 6gb ram and this is enough for mining until 2024  Wink
legendary
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EIP-5133 updated to change block adjustment to 700,000 blocks. Devs are now targeting mid-Sep for the merge as stated in the edited EIP.

When we will reach near that block I am pretty confident that the devs will target the merge for some more months later.It will be edited again and as a bare minimum I predict that block to be real maybe June 2023 as the earliest or early 2024 as the latest if it will ever be implemented.

A lot is being done for real in the Ethereum Network but I think we will still have Ethereum mining for a minimum of one year,one a pessimistic note though we may have it until the end of this year.
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I doubt that. A RTX 3090 has 24 GB RAM. It is sought after for 3D rendering applications.
The big enterprise megacorps that build 3D rendering farms tend to only buy new hardware, even if the price-to-performance ratio sucks. The extra capital cost is tiny compared to the labor cost of six figure technicians & developers. These companies need warranty support as well. At worst, they will buy last-gen Quadros or RTX 4090's.

The ideal market for these used RTX 3090's would be somebody like Linus Tech Tips or a scrappy AI research startup who needs model training for cheap. These types of companies won't amount to enough demand to buy millions of RTX 3090's.

Therefore I'm sticking to my $500 prediction.

Consensus layer dev call wrapped up:
Thank you for the constant updates on the devs. I would award you merit but sadly I don't have enough.
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Consensus layer dev call wrapped up:

1) Mainnet shadow fork #7 to take place next week.
2) Sepolia testnet beacon chain to also launch next week, TTD/merge the week after.

So Sepolia testnet could be done by Jul 1 with Goerli to follow after. Since Ropsten was done Jun 8, Sepolia planned for Jul 1, if the same one month spacing is followed Goerli could be done by start of Aug. So mainnet could be in Sep.

Also, EIP-5133's 700,000 block adjustment to the difficulty bomb offset has been accepted and implemented in code. Three execution layer clients already have updated code releases, fourth client to release by today or tomorrow. This offset corresponds to an approx 3.5 month adjustment and means the ~15 sec block times being experienced now will instead occur by the end of Sep.
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we are getting close.

It is going to be an amazing shit show.
I can't believe I am so excited about the bloodbath in the market. Yes, I sold 80% of my video cards at a loss, but on the other hand, I gained hundreds shorting crypto stocks.

If ETH crashes below 1000, we will get to test philipma's theory.
We will also get to test my theory, where I predicted on Reddit back in April that the price of an RTX 3090 card would be $500 or less within 6 months after the PoS merge.



We're already most of the way there. Down $1800, only $700 left to go. Only 500-600 to go if you count private bulk sales.
I doubt that. A RTX 3090 has 24 GB RAM. It is sought after for 3D rendering applications. No way will the card drop that low. If it does I'll buy them for sure. It is an amazing GPU. I have two that I bought new. Paid retail price for both - $1800.
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video cards will be more profitable even in a bear market.
That's right. GPU mining is always 20%+ more profitable in a bear market compared to buying the coin, assuming the power cost is 10¢. That means you can acquire the coins for 20% cheaper.
legendary
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Where are those who want to become validators? When Ethereum was worth $4,000, there was a huge queue of applicants. I think that it is more profitable now to become a validator and wait for the price of ethereum to rise. But with such a profit, video cards will be more profitable even in a bear market.
full member
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I sold my 1.5-years old 3080s too at MSRP last month. Now they are going for half the price lol
I'm glad I sold 15 or so video cards this week at MSRP prices too. I bought the RTX 3060's for $570, made $120 of mining profit on each one, then sold them for $300 net. That is a loss, but it could be much worse. They make 50 cents of profit/day now, plus my power cost will rise from 8 cents to 10 cents. Not worth it. I'll wait until the big crash, then I can likely buy back these RTX 3060's for just $170.

indeed. This bloodshed will turn many devs into Judas. People think differently when it's about survival.
I'm a developer and I'm not afraid at all. The most successful crypto companies were started during the bear market. They already built the technology by the time the bull market started, so they were prepared for the massive influx of new users. I remember creating a Coinbase account back in 2016, seeing the website improve, then seeing them handling all the new users in 2017-2018 effortlessly. But I don't use Coinbase anymore.

My business idea is to start a mining service where ordinary people can invest in mining with as little as $10, and can re-invest profit into more hashrate. They can buy fractions of a terahash and use whatever pool they want. The barrier to entry can be lower than having to buy an entire ASIC for $6k. If one physical farm steals the money or goes bankrupt, the hashrate can be re-routed from a different provider.
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This list is incomplete. XMR, VTC, XDN.. etc. There is around 100 gpu minable coins for the gpu. Randomx has been implemented on the gpu to outperform any cpu. The only difference is that 90% of gpu mining will be done with the Team Black Miner.

This chart assume that ethereum is traded at $1900, but after pos, everybody will move to more secure pow blockchains and ethereum can fall as low as $19

what I have underlined is news to me. Would you share anymore detail?
also if you have a fast GPU randomx miner why would you wait until ethereum goes pos to release it? Why not be the first and release it now ? 
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EIP-5133 updated to change block adjustment to 700,000 blocks. Devs are now targeting mid-Sep for the merge as stated in the edited EIP.
sr. member
Activity: 1064
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Hurrah for Karamazov!

It is going to be an amazing shit show.
indeed. This bloodshed will turn many devs into Judas. People think differently when it's about survival.


We will also get to test my theory, where I predicted on Reddit back in April that the price of an RTX 3090 card would be $500 or less within 6 months after the PoS merge.

We're already most of the way there. Down $1800, only $700 left to go. Only 500-600 to go if you count private bulk sales.
I sold my 1.5-years old 3080s too at MSRP last month. Now they are going for half the price lol

legendary
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It’s nuts how fast it’s approaching the $1K area. I assumed the old $1400 ATH from 2017 would provide some type of relief. However it stalled a little right above that area and next day it just took a huge dump.

This reminds me of Nov 2018. People assume that the dip they buy is the bottom but it keeps dipping everyday for another month or so. Very dangerous catching any falling knives right now.
full member
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we are getting close.

It is going to be an amazing shit show.
I can't believe I am so excited about the bloodbath in the market. Yes, I sold 80% of my video cards at a loss, but on the other hand, I gained hundreds shorting crypto stocks.

If ETH crashes below 1000, we will get to test philipma's theory.
We will also get to test my theory, where I predicted on Reddit back in April that the price of an RTX 3090 card would be $500 or less within 6 months after the PoS merge.



We're already most of the way there. Down $1800, only $700 left to go. Only 500-600 to go if you count private bulk sales.
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