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Quote from: marlboroza on May 14, 2020, 01:23:36 PM

What about this one now https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/for-dt1-members-mhanbostanci-alts-5247998 ? Is this going to be self-resolved withing DT1? 2 days has passed...

Yeah I wouldn't bet money on that one getting excluded. The Turkish gang is stronger and has some loud apologists who can drown even blockchain proof in a torrent of feigned outrage.

However it's even less likely that theymos would blacklist the dipshit so there's that too.

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Quote from: marlboroza on May 05, 2020, 05:50:51 PM

Either you are right and I am wrong or you are wrong and I am right.

@suchmoon, you were right about this one.

What about this one now https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/for-dt1-members-mhanbostanci-alts-5247998 ? Is this going to be self-resolved withing DT1? 2 days has passed...

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Sure you are right, the old system had flaws because some people that were on DT1 should never have been there but with this current system it should be possible for DT1 users to take action to ensure those trying to abuse the system are added to their distrust lists.

What would you say is the best way forward to find a comprehensive manner to conclude that argument?

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Quote from: Blazed on May 06, 2020, 09:08:58 PM

The old system was better IMO... Obviously neither system is perfect, but the new setup allows way too many people into DT1 that clearly should not be there.

Being fair, the old system had users in DT1 that clearly should not have been there also.

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Quote from: Blazed on May 06, 2020, 09:08:58 PM

The old system was better IMO... Obviously neither system is perfect, but the new setup allows way too many people into DT1 that clearly should not be there.

Being fair, the old system had users in DT1 that clearly should not have been there also.

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Quote from: hacker1001101001 on May 06, 2020, 08:43:21 PM

Quote from: Lafu on May 06, 2020, 11:58:56 AM

Thats your opinion and not mine , and i have my reasons for , looks like i should add more to my list !

Thanks for proving my previous statement true.

Slowly, but predictably Lafu is sliding down the slippery slope and into the abyss below. It's only a matter of time. Lauda, Peloso... now we have Lafu. Might as well warm up the popped-corn pan, this is going to be interesting.

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Quote from: nutildah on May 06, 2020, 04:45:23 AM

The old system was better IMO... Obviously neither system is perfect, but the new setup allows way too many people into DT1 that clearly should not be there.

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Quote from: Lafu on May 06, 2020, 11:58:56 AM

Thats your opinion and not mine , and i have my reasons for , looks like i should add more to my list !

Thanks for proving my previous statement true.

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Quote from: Timelord2067 on May 06, 2020, 04:37:49 AM

Naturally you fit that prerequisite, so you don't see that as being a problem. Roll Eyes

I mean, I've been making these points on multiple occasions long before I was DT1, but whatever fits your narrative. I also don't actually care whether or not I am on DT. I do care about thousands of newbies who don't know any better seeing "trusted" feedback from scammers and people gaming the system for their own benefit.

As Loyce says, my suggestions would decrease the power of DT1 members, not increase it. Why would you take issue with that?

I'm not. That's your narrative. Roll Eyes

What I am concerned about is there is already a growing resentment concerning DT1's who wrecklessly post vitriol all the while earning payments from Signature Campaigns that pay thirty times over their nearest rivals. If the number of DT1's is whittled down (and those same DT1's are still on earning crypto for their quasi hate speech), then can you imagine the heightened level of claims and counter claims concerning their being paid to hate>?

(All the while seemingly picking off anyone they don't like/trust (i.e. Peloso) preventing anyone else from getting into those SigCamp's).

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Quote from: peloso on May 05, 2020, 07:27:31 PM

so you blame me for some users addme to their trust list?

I dont blame you because they added you to there trust list !
I just dont trust them at all and also i dont trust you .
And just for saying it would be the same without them.
So hopefully your question is answered and clear and i havnt written any feedback on your Account !
Dont know exactly whats the problem , i just dont trust you !

Quote from: hacker1001101001 on May 05, 2020, 09:41:05 PM

Bullshit reasons,

Thats your opinion and not mine , and i have my reasons for , looks like i should add more to my list !

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Quote from: dkbit98 on May 06, 2020, 09:45:10 AM

I don't understand people wanting to get into DT and DT1 so much.
Looks like people love drama...

I think some people attach a lot of importance to this. Virtual titles for adult dudes Wink

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Quote from: dkbit98 on May 06, 2020, 09:45:10 AM

I don't understand people wanting to get into DT and DT1 so much.
Looks like people love drama...

There’s a bit of everything in the want of people to get on DT1.

Some people genuinely want to help keep the forum safe & do what the job says on the tin.

Some people like being rent a cops & using the power to make up for their micro dicks.

Some people think it’ll help them get accepted in higher paying sig campaigns.

Some people are pathetic & use it as a revenge tool & paint people red whom they don’t like.

Some people don’t even want to be on DT1 but due to their trustworthiness get included on it.

Some people use the power to scam.

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I don't understand people wanting to get into DT and DT1 so much.
Looks like people love drama...

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Quote from: LoyceV on May 06, 2020, 03:42:54 AM

suchmoon has high approval but also more disapproval which I'll call controversy now

To the best of my knowledge most of those exclusions except two are retaliatory (some even predate the DT1 lottery) so I'll call it "petulant children".

Quote from: LoyceV on May 06, 2020, 06:23:39 AM

I believe anyone who uses the Trust system for retaliation shouldn't be anywhere near DT. It's such a childish thing to do.

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hacker1001101001 popped in this thread to make a nuisance of himself, as usual, again. He continues to avoid answering the case against him and allows his attention seeking buddies to post trying to deflect. I am glad I have him on IGNORE.

As for peloso what do you think is behind his mindset? Why is he so desperate to get to DT1?

Quote from: marlboroza on May 06, 2020, 01:02:48 AM

Quote from: hacker1001101001 on May 05, 2020, 09:41:05 PM

~marlboroza is a better call due to his abuse of trust and flag system from much longer time than peloso was even around here.

What trust and flag abuse, Bump?

Quote from: yahoo62278 on May 05, 2020, 09:02:58 PM

All this crying and whining. ~ the guy and move on if you don't trust him. If he is abusing the system it shouldn't even be a discussion.

It is not the first time account peloso ended up in DT.

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Quote from: asche on May 06, 2020, 02:30:38 AM

Which is exactly why I have peloso in ~ for quite some time, and I do encourage everyone who thinks doing what he does is dubious to do the same...

I had to go back and check my exclusions list, and yep, I have ~peloso on there. I also checked my PMs and he'd contacted me twice asking why I'd excluded him.

Quote from: Lauda on May 06, 2020, 02:33:48 AM

Sometimes I tend to think somebody is playing a big joke with this DT system. Lips sealed

Yeah, ya think? I liked it a lot better before Theymos started this rotation process, and I'm not sure that change was for the better. That isn't to say there weren't problems with the old system, but the way it is now can get very ridiculous very fast.

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Quote from: Timelord2067 on May 06, 2020, 04:37:49 AM

Naturally you fit that prerequisite, so you don't see that as being a problem. Roll Eyes

I mean, I've been making these points on multiple occasions long before I was DT1, but whatever fits your narrative. I also don't actually care whether or not I am on DT. I do care about thousands of newbies who don't know any better seeing "trusted" feedback from scammers and people gaming the system for their own benefit.

As Loyce says, my suggestions would decrease the power of DT1 members, not increase it. Why would you take issue with that?

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Well here is something interesting. I did not have to dig too deep but if I studied it further I would show several more members who quite simply should not be anywhere near DT regardless of who they have added to their trust and distrust list.

Quote from: morvillz7z on May 05, 2020, 04:04:48 PM

^ peloso (DT1) is adding random people to his trust list (DT2). Most of those people have left negative ratings toward Lauda and nullius.

He is also adding people to boost his positive score (UserCoin, Mad_Max, aliborn, GAMORA, sashapan) users who previously have given him positive ratings.

https://bpip.org/r/dt1changes.aspx

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Quote from: Timelord2067 on May 06, 2020, 04:37:49 AM

Naturally you fit that prerequisite, so you don't see that as being a problem. Roll Eyes

I'd prefer not to have the power to add users to DT2 all by myself. I made a post about this a while ago, it showed which users would drop out of DT2 if this would be implemented. I think it would improve DT.

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Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on May 06, 2020, 03:54:39 AM

Quote from: LoyceV on May 06, 2020, 03:42:54 AM

The problem is abusing your DT1-power to make more than one negative feedback show up by default.

Requiring inclusions from at least 2 or 3 DT1 users to become DT2 would largely negate this problem, along with the problem of trust self-scratching. Increasing the requirements to be voted on to DT1 wouldn't be a bad move either.

Naturally you fit that prerequisite, so you don't see that as being a problem. Roll Eyes

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