Topic: DefaultTrust changes - page 31. (Read 85467 times)

A quote literally answering the question you were presenting is not good enough?

I'm still unsure what exactly he's being accused of. Wiping his Trust list, using only DefaultTrust, and then making a new Trust list doesn't seem like such a bad thing to me.

I commend you and several other members that continue to engage with them in a civil manner even though you get next to nothing in return from them in simple coherent messages. I wish I had your temperament and patience to deal with these attention seeking good-for-nothing members that have created their own gang within a gang to cause disruption to the forum but it was easier for me to simply give up and IGNORE them all.

I read most of this thread. It's a bit long to try to find anything I might have missed. You're the one who claimed he "gets a pass". A link would be nice.

I read most of this thread. It's a bit long to try to find anything I might have missed. You're the one who claimed he "gets a pass". A link would be nice.

Maybe read the thread?

That certainly happens, but it doesn't answer my question what Last of the V8s is being accused of.

You might want to have a look at this person's gaming the system over the last six months adding then subtracting the same/similar users again and again.  Same as Peloso has been doing.

You couldn't be more wrong. Actually I like them really hairy and dripping in butt-nuggets from careless forward wiping. Then I can nibble them off slowly and teasingly until the great crescendo. You know nothing.

Meanwhile, yes, I've got some more time to devote to the forum, trying to keep the scumbags and drunken imbeciles away.

Weird... I seem to see people get accused of all kinds of manipulation for doing nothing more than using the trust system pretty regularly.

I guess all that matters is how shiny the user leaves the nuts after they are done.

Weird... I seem to see people get accused of all kinds of manipulation for doing nothing more than using the trust system pretty regularly. I guess all that matters is how shiny the user leaves the nuts after they are done.

I'm still unsure what exactly he's being accused of. Wiping his Trust list, using only DefaultTrust, and then making a new Trust list doesn't seem like such a bad thing to me.

I'm still unsure what exactly he's being accused of. Wiping his Trust list, using only DefaultTrust, and then making a new Trust list doesn't seem like such a bad thing to me.

Last of the V8s is an official owner of an extra large tin of ball polish, he gets a pass.

I looked at it and I don't think it's similar to what peloso is doing at all. He's not in DT1 and even if he gets in next month his trust list changes don't seem to boost his rating or damage anyone's rating, nor is he fishing for support at the bottom of the DT1 list, like peloso was attempting to do. He also hasn't declared that he will include anyone who includes him, which is what peloso said and what prompted my post that you quoted.

You might want to have a look at this person's gaming the system over the last six months adding then subtracting the same/similar users again and again.  Same as Peloso has been doing.

~snip~

peloso - DT manipulator and abuser
mhanbostanci - abuser and account seller
wolwoo - scam supporter
Aqualun89 - ban evader
Tecshare - troll and shill

I wonder why account Vispilio trust these users judgement? This account has to be completely removed from DT!

~Vispilio

However gospodin did remove all (or many) of his inclusions, which is what caused Vispilio to drop out.

He didn't. There is a bug in BPIP that sometimes shows people who drop out of DT1 as removing all their inclusions/exclusions.

To be fair, wolwoo and peloso include each other, so really the DT1 power for each should only be -98, or -87 if you remove all who mutually include peloso.

Here's the DT1 users that peloso shares mutual inclusions with:

klarki
WhiteManWhite
bobita
Vispilio
imhoneer
KTChampions
3meek
gospodin
madnessteat
Ratimov
zasad@

If you filter by leaving only those who have included both peloso and wolwoo, the list gets much shorter:

bobita
Vispilio
gospodin

It will be interesting to see who continues to include peloso after his most recent statements about the trust system. If they can't see how this is a gross misuse of it, the only solution will be to exclude them all, which I know many DT would rather not due for fear of reciprocal exclusions.

This places the burden on those with political capital to spare (those with ~15+ net inclusions, of which there are only 20 DT1 members) to exclude these users from their trust list. I can understand that many of them would rather maintain a neutral attitude or else simply don't care, and that's their right. However, their inaction makes it easy for those who want to work their net inclusions upward through doing nothing more than performing reciprocal inclusions. This will slowly break the trust system and render it meaningless.

To those DT1 who will continue to have peloso included:

Is there something that us non-Russians are missing that you believe still qualifies peloso as DT1 material? Please let us know -- perhaps there is an explanation we have not yet considered.