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Bitgoblin
August 30, 2014, 04:19:28 AM
#95
If I flip the finger to DefaultTrust and stop using it for x period of time, then during that x period of time if someone on DefaultTrust gives me a negative trusted feedback I have no way of seeing it, while the vast majority of the forum will see me with a nice little red tag under my name. Say what you like, but that affects any jobs I want to do, businesses I want to create, et cetera.
And that's why you should be requesting for this broken system to be taken down.
legendary
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August 30, 2014, 04:13:56 AM
#94
If I flip the finger to DefaultTrust and stop using it for x period of time, then during that x period of time if someone on DefaultTrust gives me a negative trusted feedback I have no way of seeing it, while the vast majority of the forum will see me with a nice little red tag under my name. Say what you like, but that affects any jobs I want to do, businesses I want to create, et cetera.
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Bitgoblin
August 30, 2014, 04:10:39 AM
#93
Using your own list is all well and good, but you then can't see how you and everyone else appears to the majority seeing as most people just use default trust as standard.
Yeah, this is what stops me from building my own trust list and keeps me on DefaultTrust at depth 2. The people who actually build their own trust list are limited to the minority and those at depth 1 on DefaultTrust.
I disagree: what's the use-case?

If you are just talking to someone, knowing that some random guy trusts or mistrusts him is irrelevant: more useful to know if someone you picked trusts or mistrusts him.

Instead if you are going to do some business deal with him, you'd better check his full trust anyway: you go to his profile, "show untrusted" and read everything.

Either way, DefaultTrust is useless at best.
legendary
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August 30, 2014, 04:00:46 AM
#92
Using your own list is all well and good, but you then can't see how you and everyone else appears to the majority seeing as most people just use default trust as standard.
Yeah, this is what stops me from building my own trust list and keeps me on DefaultTrust at depth 2. The people who actually build their own trust list are limited to the minority and those at depth 1 on DefaultTrust.
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Bitgoblin
August 30, 2014, 03:17:59 AM
#91
Big +1 on this. Please people take a look on who you're trusting by default. Set depth to 0 and pick your specific individuals.
As long as you set your own, you may increase depth if you want to, as long as they themselves don't trust DefaultTrust, of course.
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August 30, 2014, 02:51:11 AM
#90
Using your own list is all well and good, but you then can't see how you and everyone else appears to the majority seeing as most people just use default trust as standard.
legendary
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August 29, 2014, 09:31:30 PM
#89
lol @ the 'DefaultTrust' list.

Big +1 on this. Please people take a look on who you're trusting by default. Set depth to 0 and pick your specific individuals.

I did this awhile back and like it much better.  The trust rating is truly my own.  I really don't like the idea of default trust. 
legendary
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August 29, 2014, 09:00:49 PM
#88
lol @ the 'DefaultTrust' list.

Big +1 on this. Please people take a look on who you're trusting by default. Set depth to 0 and pick your specific individuals.
legendary
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August 29, 2014, 08:39:30 PM
#87
lol @ the 'DefaultTrust' list. Some really shady individuals in that list. Best make your own list of people you know who are trustworthy.
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November 18, 2013, 10:51:35 AM
#86
Current trust system is all but useless for any practical purpose. It also creates a false sense of security among newbies. I think it should be scrapped. Or, at least DefaultTrust part. You want to use the trust system, you choose between TheymosTrust and any competing trust list. There are no defaults for everybody.
legendary
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November 17, 2013, 09:16:12 PM
#85
You two already have one thread, could you not shit this one up too, thanks.
Vod
legendary
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November 17, 2013, 09:15:44 PM
#84
Thanks for the advice bible boy.   Wink

You're welcome Satanic scum.  Grin

Sorry bible boy, don't believe in satan - that's a cult figure.  
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November 17, 2013, 09:10:52 PM
#83
Thanks for the advice bible boy.   Wink

You're welcome Satanic scum.  Grin
Vod
legendary
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November 17, 2013, 09:08:24 PM
#82

Nope, I don't make a thing off of keeping the lending forum free of scammers. 

Not saying if Theymos offered to pay me I wouldn't take it....   Tongue

You seek to elevate yourself by putting others down. If you had a REAL interest in keeping scammers away, you would do away with your trollish ways and giving useless assumptions about trust on peoples feedback.

Thanks for the advice bible boy.   Wink
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November 17, 2013, 09:05:36 PM
#81

Nope, I don't make a thing off of keeping the lending forum free of scammers. 

Not saying if Theymos offered to pay me I wouldn't take it....   Tongue

You seek to elevate yourself by putting others down. If you had a REAL interest in keeping scammers away, you would do away with your trollish ways and giving useless assumptions about trust on peoples feedback.
Vod
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November 17, 2013, 08:37:49 PM
#80
But the current default trust people gain financially from said trust so it's not likely they will just drop it and exchange it for a bright red warning sign.

I don't make anything from having positive trust.  In the past I escrowed a couple deals for a few dimes, but that's not worth it to me anymore.

I'm not paid at all - I volunteer all my time on here.


Not so fast. You repeatedly interfered in my loan to i3lome after you turned down his loan. You regularly shoot down people who are honest without a reason.

You DO have a vested interest in keeping the Lending forum limited to you and your cronies.
The way you harassed me for months and abused the trust system by giving me three neg feedback accusing me of being a scammer without any proof, just because I made the loan to i3lome that you wouldn't.

So stop saying you don't benefit. You do benefit. You have given positive trust to shady people just because they gave you positive trust to begin with, and sided with you in your trolling escapades.

You should be embarrassed for yourself, but I'm sure you already got rid of that thing called a conscious.



Nope, I don't make a thing off of keeping the lending forum free of scammers. 

Not saying if Theymos offered to pay me I wouldn't take it....   Tongue
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November 17, 2013, 08:35:03 PM
#79
But the current default trust people gain financially from said trust so it's not likely they will just drop it and exchange it for a bright red warning sign.

I don't make anything from having positive trust.  In the past I escrowed a couple deals for a few dimes, but that's not worth it to me anymore.

I'm not paid at all - I volunteer all my time on here.


Not so fast. You repeatedly interfered in my loan to i3lome after you turned down his loan. You regularly shoot down people who are honest without a reason.

You DO have a vested interest in keeping the Lending forum limited to you and your cronies.
The way you harassed me for months and abused the trust system by giving me three neg feedback accusing me of being a scammer without any proof, just because I made the loan to i3lome that you wouldn't.

So stop saying you don't benefit. You do benefit. You have given positive trust to shady people just because they gave you positive trust to begin with, and sided with you in your trolling escapades.

You should be embarrassed for yourself, but I'm sure you already got rid of that thing called a conscious.

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November 17, 2013, 06:58:02 PM
#78
Btw im now in the default list.

Confirmed, Goat got promoted by badbear.

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EDIT : that and BCB being on badbear direct trust list made me remove badbear from mine.
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legendary
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November 17, 2013, 06:48:51 PM
#77
I'm not paid at all - I volunteer all my time on here.
I don't buy it, vod is a paid shill trying to stir FUD imo.  He's been at it, spreading misinfo, for over a year.  Nobody could accidentally compose so many false statements on accident.
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November 17, 2013, 06:46:28 PM
#76
But the current default trust people gain financially from said trust so it's not likely they will just drop it and exchange it for a bright red warning sign.
Reality contradicts you.
TradeFortress did just that.
pirate40 basically did the same, even if that's before this system AFAIK.
Once you reach a certain theresold of money you can steal, if you're a thief you will steal it, and that's just that.

Let me clarify.  Right now there's a set of users who are default trust green to all newcomers.  Many conduct various BTC businesses and/or regular exchange transactions.  By virtue of their perceived trust to newcomers they get preferential treatment wether it's better exchange rates or items get sent to them 1st which is a financial benefit.  So why would anyone willingly give that up?
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