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Since when can an illegal casino have juridical valid ToS?

- Despite from the point that you can not have a legally binding agreement with a domain name.

- Despite from the point that you must agree to the ToS when sign up. But the words terms and conditions are not mentioned when you register and they are also not directly visible on the webpage (required by civil code of Curacao)!

Someone is lying through their teeth here but oh hey it's the fucking Internet where anyone could be everyone 

You had created two separate accounts on their sites with the same name (yours) ??
That is what I got from the response from the mbtcasino representative.
Is that right? Tell us that can't be so.
Because if it is infact true then they have you by the balls so to speak because it is stated in their T.O.S you can not have duplicate accounts using them and have one active while trying to do a withdrawal.
You have no traction in your argument and might as well cease and desist right now.
Because they can prosecute you by their laws since you are using their site which is their property and not yours.
And those two accounts I registered were by error on my part and did not have any kyc or aml verification on them at all so it was not an issue like the one you are in now.
You are over a barrel on this one bud.
You better stop now before you start to regret it if you go forward with what your trying to do.
Extortion is an offense and you do not know the laws where they are located even if you did know where they are for real. Their chat service is outsourced and not the actual location of their main company or operation. Even their marketing directors are from different locations you do realize this don't you mate?

mBITCasino is not licensed!

You discuss about non applicable terms and conditions -> funny

Again, I don't want to respond so please refer to a previous post. mBit is a scam quasi-licensed online "casino" - they're not Apple, Google, or Megaupload, as I'd mentioned in a prior post.

I said I wouldn't reply, but that was a typo on my part. It should read "u accidentally linked your bonus account to mine".

Let's just face it, I was going to simply take my deposit back, but you NEGATED on our agreement for NO REASON. That means you do NOT keep your word, and are NOT trustable. I will be posting actual emails and screenshots here in 48hrs.

Yes, of course, my friend did not want to use a REAL ID to upload to a sketch site. Anybody can understand that.

Go ahead and provide other evidence. The "u" key is right next to the "i" key - so you're grabbing me over a typo? I type fast. And were you on my webcam monitoring whom was playing off the computer? If so I think that's a severe breach of privacy.




Besides, please respond to this in your terms and conditions as stated earlier:

Got something! This directly from their terms and conditions: 3.1.2. You are allowed to have only one Member Account. If you attempt to open more than one Member Account, all betting accounts you try to open may be blocked or closed and any bets may be voided. Depending on the severity of the case mBitcasino holds the right to withhold or take any funds deposited to pay for damages and/or the prevention of future misconduct.

It says YOU are only allowed to hold one account. Most casinos say each HOUSEHOLD is allowed one account. Because they run an IP scan, all users using your wifi are flagged as multiple accounts, which I am assuming is not the case since you live in a university. Read the rest of their T&C involving multiple accounts: 3.1. Registration and opening of your member account:

3.1.1. In order for you to be able to place bets using any of the Websites, you must first register personally with us and open an account (“Member Account”).

3.1.2. You are allowed to have only one Member Account. If you attempt to open more than one Member Account, all betting accounts you try to open may be blocked or closed and any bets may be voided. Depending on the severity of the case mBitcasino holds the right to withhold or take any funds deposited to pay for damages and/or the prevention of future misconduct.

3.1.3. You must enter all mandatory information requested into your registration form, including a valid e-mail address; if you do not enter a valid email address, we will be unable to help you recover any “forgotten passwords”. It is your sole responsibility to ensure that the information you provide is true, complete and correct. You are hereby notified that, in our discretion, we have the right to carry out KYC verification procedures and that your Member Account may be blocked for access or closed if you are found to supply false or misleading information.

3.1.4. If you notice that you have more than one registered Member Account you must notify us immediately. Failure to do so may lead to your Member account being blocked for access.

3.1.5. As part of the registration process, you will have to choose a username and password for your login into the Website(s). It is your sole and exclusive responsibility to ensure that your login details are kept securely. You must not disclose your login details to anyone. We are not responsible for any abuse or misuse of your Member Account by third parties due to your disclosure, whether intentional or accidental, whether active or passive, of your login details to any third party.

3.1.6. mBit Casino reserves the right to refuse or close a Member Account at its sole discretion, but any contractual obligations already made by mBit Casino shall be honored accordingly.

3.1.7 mBit Casino reserves the right to declare a wager void, partially or in full, if mBit Casino, at its own discretion, deems it obvious that there was an error, mistake, misprint or technical error on the pay-table, odds or software.

No where does it say that multiple accounts PER HOUSEHOLD is not allowed. They do not have a leg to stand on! Simply ask to speak to a higher up (maybe even the owner, $3.5k is not a small amount), and tell them what I just proved here. Point out if they "pay out 100's of BTC per day" as the mBit Casino rep claimed, then they have nothing to gain and everything to lose by scamming you. Offer to lock and delete this thread, withdraw all complaints, and let bygones be bygones AFTER they pay you.


I will keep my word and refrain from any other conversation UNLESS mBIT responds publicly and/or attacks me, in which case I will respond appropriately.


And besides, let's assume (hypothetically) you figured the accounts were linked - WHY DID YOU LET ME DEPOSIT 1.8BTC IN AND THEN KEEP IT?! WHY DID YOU NOT SIMPLY NOTIFY ME AND SHUT DOWN THE ACCOUNT OR WARN ME TO NOT DEPOSIT??! YOU BASICALLY STOLE MY JACKPOT AND, ADDING INSULT TO INJURY, STOLE MY 1.7BTC DEPOSIT!!

Hey Everyone,

We offered to send lazypolarbears 1.779 BTC which was the amount of his deposits (less the cashouts and bonuses) after he broke our terms. Unfortunately we could not come to an agreement.

For the record, we have included a quote from the chat message he had with one our support team members. In this message, he sent our support staff a message that was meant for a friend of his, where he asked this friend to send a "selfie of your fake and your face."


~ lazypolarbears

We can provide evidence, including screenshots, of this conversation if required.

It is also worth noting that 2 of these duplicate accounts contained his name in the email address. With this evidence, plus the same IP on both accounts, the same cache browsers in both accounts and the chat message above, we concluded that all of these accounts were the same person (lazypolarbears).

Once again, having duplicate accounts is strictly against our terms and conditions.

As for the domains, we are not interested in buying them.

We would have really liked to settle this dispute, but at this stage it seems that is highly unlikely.

Thanks,
mBit Casino

It appears you are confused:

1) I don't speak about your domain case. I informed you that there is no legally binding agreement between you and Direx N.V., because they speak only about the domain name mbitcasino.com, but you can not have a contract with a domain name = no juridical valid terms and conditions.

PokerStars example:

-> between you and the company xy and not between you and a domain name... understood?

Despite of this, the ToS must be easily visible/findable and not hidden in the sitemap. LOL Also, when you register, they don't mention anything about their ToS. This is not in accordance with the Curacao civil code.

2) I did not say anything about contacting their regulator

Final update until 2/22/17 - I have been instructed via PM to refrain from any additional information or posts for 48hrs as of 1:46PST 2/20/17 - I will also be away on business during that time. Feel free to keep posting, I just won't be for 48hrs.

Feel free to continue this thread... I'll be back on the 22nd.

I believe you're getting confused...

1) The Domain idea came out AFTER they negated a partial settlement - this is a means of protest and warning others. There is no legally binding agreement with ICANN or whatever host I used to register.
2) Yes, I've contacted their regulatory agency... please read the updated 1st post.

You can not have a legally binding agreement with a domain! Legally binding agreements are only possible between natural or legal persons. They must state the operator Direx N.V. in this "terms and conditions", to be juridical valid.

Well if they choose to let go of the "trademark" - that's their choice. However, they'd have to restart from scratch, including reputation (which may not be a bad thing at this point).

Squatting domains only really applies to sites like megaupload that can be seized by federal agencies, or if you're a large coorporation like apple or google. Not a scam btc online casino.

And of course I've contacted their regulatory agency.

I don't think domain squatting is the right approach here because they could just let go of the mBitCasino trademark and emerge under a new name effectively avoiding paying you anything.
Have you tried contacting their regulatory body directly explaining your matters? There is something on the bottom of the front page leading to a regulatory agency.
Also squatted domains could be claimed via arbitration I think.

I didn't make the full list (especially the good ones, SEO optimized) public yet, for obvious reasons. And yes, domains are internet real estate, they are worth way more than you might think.

You're also misreading some intent - all 65+ are now pointed towards this thread. So 1 quick google search (w/ SEO) or 1 misspelling or redirect leads directly to this thread which will turn away FUTURE gamblers from mBitCasino.

Also, lastly, it's standard for UK to use .com and .co.uk (more so the latter) within the UK. Several EU countries are registered, many of which are their core clientele.

Their arbitrary terms and conditions. But please keep off-topic replies and read previous posts before posting.

Note again, that in this case, it was registered on a large (5000+) university IP.

Based on what is having more accounts on a same ip prohibited?

LOOOL ok good luck 

Thanks haha - but they're not in charge; just some outsourced people getting paid $7 an hour. Email: [email protected] - if you want any results.

But honestly, at this point, it's about the ICANN domains I just registered. All 65+ of them. 65BTC seems a bargain, no?

Your very welcome there MATE!

Glad I can help you out once again with this from my second post on this thread.