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sr. member
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October 12, 2011, 11:58:50 AM
Why do some people repeat that BTX hacked or exploited SC2 in any way? He failed with 51% attack. He says he bought a lot of EC2 instances to drive blockrate up. Eh yeah, usual behavior if global blockrate is high, diff is low and retargeting algo has a raise limit. The only thing that could be true is, that he mined some SC2, he said some hundreds of thousands, but hasn't shown any proof yet. So everything was working as the protocol intended.
I think another explanation is that the mining looked so screwed up at the beginning that he thought he messed it up. While it was in fact a design. Designed to be screwed up during the first day. Who could have guessed?
full member
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October 12, 2011, 11:46:37 AM
Why do some people repeat that BTX hacked or exploited SC2 in any way? He failed with 51% attack. He says he bought a lot of EC2 instances to drive blockrate up. Eh yeah, usual behavior if global blockrate is high, diff is low and retargeting algo has a raise limit. The only thing that could be true is, that he mined some SC2, he said some hundreds of thousands, but hasn't shown any proof yet. So everything was working as the protocol intended.
donator
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Gerald Davis
October 12, 2011, 11:33:42 AM
Why does the BTC community support what essentially equates to cyber terrorism?  Just because he hasn't attacked BTC, he's a good terrorist?  Patriot?  What happens when the BTC community wrongs him somehow and he points his "mass resources" and "Industry connections" at the BTC network?  If he's really a "good" guy, he should be using his resources to fix the exploits and problems.  Right now he's just a kid with a magnifying glass deciding which ants get to live.

Cyber terrorism?  ROFL.

There is no security through obscurity.  

If the flaws exist now they will exist in the future when the end game involves hundreds of millions of dollars in transactions.  An end game w/ end users who are far more easily spooked.  If a currency can't stand up to relatively simple attacks involving a relatively cheap amount of resources then they simply have no reason for existing.

If he can "break" BTC then I would rather he do it now while BTC is in its infancy than someone else doing it in the future to steal hundreds of millions of dollars and destroy confidence in crypto-currency.

" he should be using his resources to fix the exploits and problems. "
Whitehats have long since figured out nobody listens to exploits & problems until it is a problem.  People use to point flaws out to Microsoft.  Sometimes writing up long papers explaining the issue and ramifications.  Microsoft promptly ignored them.  Today they launch a proof of concept attack and issues get patched much faster.

Think of it as software evolution.  Good software will evolve and become stronger by being constantly attacked.  Weak software dies and it likely had no business existing to begin with.

sr. member
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October 12, 2011, 11:31:59 AM
Why does the BTC community support what essentially equates to cyber terrorism?  Just because he hasn't attacked BTC, he's a good terrorist?  Patriot?  What happens when the BTC community wrongs him somehow and he points his "mass resources" and "Industry connections" at the BTC network?  If he's really a "good" guy, he should be using his resources to fix the exploits and problems.  Right now he's just a kid with a magnifying glass deciding which ants get to live.

Exploits often are overlooked and not fixed unless they are first exploited. He has been very open about his attacks, so I don't see a problem. If he openly attacked Bitcoin, I would feel the same way. If it cannot withstand an attack by one individual who does so openly, it is not worth protecting.
newbie
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October 12, 2011, 11:10:47 AM
Actually pretty much what he said he was going to do, he has. A lot of very knowledgeable forum members seems to consider him factual.

Geist Geld - Two successful attacks
Fairbrix -Reorged the chain and stole over 1700 blocks.
Namecoin - Rumored to have paid off by NMC Dev not to attack
Solidcoin 1 - Scared CH so bad he killed the chain as a precaution after seeing GG hit.
I0C and IXC - Numerous test for 51%, basically killed them
Bitparking - Number 1 suspect in DS attack has every trait of BCX

Coinotron - was working fine, BCX announces attack and three minutes later it shoots to 97% stales and stays there.

This guy has closed down every non BTC exchange at one point or another.

His weapons are mass resources and is apparently someone well connected in the computer industry.

He indicated what he was going to do to SC 20 and did it. He uses pure hashing power applied at the precise times. The only known code exploit was when he used ArtForz Time Travel and had some of his people modify it.

Made the statement last night right before it happened that he bump up SC 20 block generation to 4 per second, it did and stayed there.

Doesn't sound like BS to me.

Why does the BTC community support what essentially equates to cyber terrorism?  Just because he hasn't attacked BTC, he's a good terrorist?  Patriot?  What happens when the BTC community wrongs him somehow and he points his "mass resources" and "Industry connections" at the BTC network?  If he's really a "good" guy, he should be using his resources to fix the exploits and problems.  Right now he's just a kid with a magnifying glass deciding which ants get to live.
hero member
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October 11, 2011, 11:22:48 PM


I stayed up all night BUT IT WAS WORTH IT Smiley

Tenebrix is shit. 7.7 million pregenerated scam => GTFO.

Uhhhh, SC2 - 13 million pregenerated...

 Roll Eyes
hero member
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October 11, 2011, 11:19:38 PM
Do us a favor and stfu till you cough up some source code.  We've heard an awful lot of "if you saw the code you'd piss yourself" out of you, but you seem to be afraid to actually show us the code.

If you want to champion a retards cause .

That's what solidcoin.info is for.
sr. member
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BTCRadio Owner
October 11, 2011, 11:03:52 PM
I can confirm. This guy has got almost infinite power and $$$ and tons of connections in all areas ( he was threatening to downrank solidcoin.info on SEO etc. ). He is dangerous and not just blowing hot air.

How can you "confirm" that he is rich and powerful? You actually have to know something to confirm it.

That is the impression I got. Guy owns like 30k of namecoins and 100 000 of Bitcoins etc. He is like ArtForz guy but more black hat type etc. Early adopter and made a fortune. Now he can afford to kill any chain he pleases etc.

like artforz? I thought he was artforz...

Maybe he is. We can never be sure.

O gawd, dont start this crap again.
hero member
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October 11, 2011, 10:04:54 PM
I can confirm. This guy has got almost infinite power and $$$ and tons of connections in all areas ( he was threatening to downrank solidcoin.info on SEO etc. ). He is dangerous and not just blowing hot air.

How can you "confirm" that he is rich and powerful? You actually have to know something to confirm it.

That is the impression I got. Guy owns like 30k of namecoins and 100 000 of Bitcoins etc. He is like ArtForz guy but more black hat type etc. Early adopter and made a fortune. Now he can afford to kill any chain he pleases etc.

like artforz? I thought he was artforz...

Maybe he is. We can never be sure.
sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250
October 11, 2011, 10:03:02 PM
I can confirm. This guy has got almost infinite power and $$$ and tons of connections in all areas ( he was threatening to downrank solidcoin.info on SEO etc. ). He is dangerous and not just blowing hot air.

How can you "confirm" that he is rich and powerful? You actually have to know something to confirm it.

That is the impression I got. Guy owns like 30k of namecoins and 100 000 of Bitcoins etc. He is like ArtForz guy but more black hat type etc. Early adopter and made a fortune. Now he can afford to kill any chain he pleases etc.

like artforz? I thought he was artforz...
full member
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October 11, 2011, 09:58:10 PM
Guy hasn't proven he owns any of anything at all.

He says he does, but then again I say I made 50m bitcoins off the SC2 launch.
hero member
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October 11, 2011, 09:47:32 PM
I can confirm. This guy has got almost infinite power and $$$ and tons of connections in all areas ( he was threatening to downrank solidcoin.info on SEO etc. ). He is dangerous and not just blowing hot air.

How can you "confirm" that he is rich and powerful? You actually have to know something to confirm it.

That is the impression I got. Guy owns like 30k of namecoins and 100 000 of Bitcoins etc. He is like ArtForz guy but more black hat type etc. Early adopter and made a fortune. Now he can afford to kill any chain he pleases etc.
sr. member
Activity: 294
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October 11, 2011, 09:40:59 PM
I can confirm. This guy has got almost infinite power and $$$ and tons of connections in all areas ( he was threatening to downrank solidcoin.info on SEO etc. ). He is dangerous and not just blowing hot air.

How can you "confirm" that he is rich and powerful? You actually have to know something to confirm it.
hero member
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October 11, 2011, 08:30:22 PM
Alright, thank you all for taking the time answering my questions with the best information to/of your knowledge. I'll keep lurking here for now.
hero member
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October 11, 2011, 08:29:36 PM
I can confirm. This guy has got almost infinite power and $$$ and tons of connections in all areas ( he was threatening to downrank solidcoin.info on SEO etc. ). He is dangerous and not just blowing hot air.

Following the debate with interest.  The above post catches the eye.  Nice compliment in a round about sort of way.
full member
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October 11, 2011, 08:24:44 PM
I believe that, in the past, he said that he just sees these alt-currencies as a testing ground for Bitcoin. I can't remember if it was him who actually said it, though.

Found it: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/delete-47199

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3) All Alt Chains are nothing more than test subjects to me except for TBX, I like TBX.
legendary
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October 11, 2011, 08:16:25 PM
I manage a very successful forum, and despite sometimes I don't agree with some moderation decisions and I could have the last word on the subject I would never take back on my own a decision a moderator took just because users don't like it , even if the moderator was completely wrong. I would be better just removing moderation powers from the moderator if that was to happen.

I for one am thankful the mods here have more humility than to enforce poor decisions.

Me too Grin. Moderation is very good on this forum. Not too strict and not too loose. I for one have taken the role of comic relief in the alternate cryptocurrency subsection and have not got slammed for it Wink Just loving the hate between the SC and BTC people. It really is fun to watch and contribute to this "battle" against the "glorious leader".

Good work forum people.
I didn't want to say anything since I didn't want this topic to diverge anymore than I've already made it diverge, but you'll be taken out shortly. Theymos was supposed to send you a warning (unless it turns out that you really are smoothie, in which case you've been warned enough). Off-topic posts are not acceptable.


On to another few question, if it could be answered by you guys or BitcoinEXpress.

Is BitcoinEXpress and his team trying to protect Bitcoin? And is he trying to protect users from being scammed by these alternatives? If so, he and his team has my support.

If the above is true, this question here is irrelevant. Wouldn't we all want less miners in Bitcoin to bring the difficulty down? Bringing down these alternative cryptocurrencies are most likely gonna bring/attract these alternative cryptocurrencies users back to Bitcoin mining, driving the difficulty up. I seen he is a huge supporter for Bitcoin, then why bring the alternative cryptocurrencies down, and drive the difficulty up in Bitcoin and why not just let the alternative cryptocurrencies users dig their own grave instead of using his "BitcoinEXpress" resources? If this /\ makes sense.

From what I can tell, BTX isn't on any kind of 'mission', he just enjoys playing around with alt-chains. He has demonstrated he's willing to work with the chains he attacks (to strengthen them), but that's only if the devs are receptive. I believe the only reasons he's been so hard on SC is due to the arrogance of CH and other SC supporters.

Plus, many of these new alt-chains are CPU based, thus having no impact on BTC difficulty.
I believe that, in the past, he said that he just sees these alt-currencies as a testing ground for Bitcoin. I can't remember if it was him who actually said it, though.
legendary
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October 11, 2011, 08:15:38 PM
The simplest answer:
He just likes to brag, nothing more.
full member
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October 11, 2011, 08:14:18 PM

On to another few question, if it could be answered by you guys or BitcoinEXpress.

Is BitcoinEXpress and his team trying to protect Bitcoin? And is he trying to protect users from being scammed by these alternatives? If so, he and his team has my support.

If the above is true, this question here is irrelevant. Wouldn't we all want less miners in Bitcoin to bring the difficulty down? Bringing down these alternative cryptocurrencies are most likely gonna bring/attract these alternative cryptocurrencies users back to Bitcoin mining, driving the difficulty up. I seen he is a huge supporter for Bitcoin, then why bring the alternative cryptocurrencies down, and drive the difficulty up in Bitcoin and why not just let the alternative cryptocurrencies users dig their own grave instead of using his "BitcoinEXpress" resources? If this /\ makes sense.

From what I can tell, BTX isn't on any kind of 'mission', he just enjoys playing around with alt-chains. He has demonstrated he's willing to work with the chains he attacks (to strengthen them), but that's only if the devs are receptive. I believe the only reasons he's been so hard on SC is due to the arrogance of CH and other SC supporters.

Plus, many of these new alt-chains are CPU based, thus having no impact on BTC difficulty.
sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250
October 11, 2011, 08:13:29 PM
Actually pretty much what he said he was going to do, he has. A lot of very knowledgeable forum members seems to consider him factual.

Geist Geld - Two successful attacks
Fairbrix -Reorged the chain and stole over 1700 blocks.
Namecoin - Rumored to have paid off by NMC Dev not to attack
Solidcoin 1 - Scared CH so bad he killed the chain as a precaution after seeing GG hit.
I0C and IXC - Numerous test for 51%, basically killed them
Bitparking - Number 1 suspect in DS attack has every trait of BCX

Coinotron - was working fine, BCX announces attack and three minutes later it shoots to 97% stales and stays there.

This guy has closed down every non BTC exchange at one point or another.

His weapons are mass resources and is apparently someone well connected in the computer industry.

He indicated what he was going to do to SC 20 and did it. He uses pure hashing power applied at the precise times. The only known code exploit was when he used ArtForz Time Travel and had some of his people modify it.

Made the statement last night right before it happened that he bump up SC 20 block generation to 4 per second, it did and stayed there.

Doesn't sound like BS to me.

Thanks for the detailed info and enlightening me.


I can confirm. This guy has got almost infinite power and $$$ and tons of connections in all areas ( he was threatening to downrank solidcoin.info on SEO etc. ). He is dangerous and not just blowing hot air.

Cool. Nice to see someone not talking out their ass for once.

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On to another few question, if it could be answered by you guys or BitcoinEXpress.

Is BitcoinEXpress and his team trying to protect Bitcoin? And is he trying to protect users from being scammed by these alternatives? If so, he and his team has my support.

If the above is true, this question here is irrelevant. Wouldn't we all want less miners in Bitcoin to bring the difficulty down? Bringing down these alternative cryptocurrencies are most likely gonna bring/attract these alternative cryptocurrencies users back to Bitcoin mining, driving the difficulty up. I seen he is a huge supporter for Bitcoin, then why bring the alternative cryptocurrencies down, and drive the difficulty up in Bitcoin and why not just let the alternative cryptocurrencies users dig their own grave instead of using his "BitcoinEXpress" resources? If this /\ makes sense.





I don't know...before he started his attacking them phase, he was shilling the hell out of it for them, and going on endlessly about how much btc he made from each.

Way back in the ixcoin days, I think we agreed that alt-chains are bullshit, but I spent a lot of time telling him he was a douche for participating in them and that he was just as scummy as the creators for profiting off them. He said he was only in it for the profits, and didn't give a rat's ass about bitcoin.
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