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Exactly right.  If there are one or more vulnerabilities in CN, BCX is just the messenger delivering the news (and cheap notes nomnomnom).


Me too.  This is the second opportunity this month for Monero to demonstrate antifragility.  If it survives, it becomes a crypto juggernaut.

Besides, the entertainment is priceless.   

We've looking at an epic grudge match of BCX versus the Dream Team of TFM, James777, RP, CZ, and the 7 XMR core devs.

No matter what, this nerd battle royale gun be gud!

A) Plot twist: nothing happens
B) Plot twist: something happens but XMR survives
C) Plot twist: something happens and XMR dies


It's on like Tron.

No I do not believe from memory that he gave a timeline on the DGC threat.  It is more like a looming storm on the horizon.  Different reasoning behind the threat as well.

Did he give a timeline - like 72 hours?

Well BCX said he was going to destroy the half dead piddly hashrate Digitalcoin (DGC) a few months back which unfortunately never occurred, though BCX still mentions it as an imminent event with the same baited breath used with XMR.  So is it just bark and no bite?  XMR would take a few order of magnitude more resources to attack than DGC so there would have to be more incentive than just muscle flexing.  Maybe BCX could at least follow through on wiping DGC off the planet as a show of good faith that he will follow through with an attack on XMR. 

Another shojayxt puppet.

Πολλά λεφτά βγάζουν αυτοί πάντως χαχα

Ha, just saw this!

Correct, all these environmental factors influence our epigenome (software) while the DNA (hardware) is not affected.

I'm not shilling for anybody, so please don't jump to unfounded conclusions.  I'm aware of his ill-advised and illusory threat.  He can now claim that his actions forced some sort of improvement.  As I said, fine, let the baby have his bottle, and move on.

ughhh...

P.S. Η Νέα Σελήνη μιλά για νέα, σημαντικά ξεκινήματα πάνω σε οικονομικά θέματα.

iCE: FYI the season that we are born has profound effects on our epigenome! I will find (maybe) the source and post it.

(So the season that we are born gives us some common attributes that are widespread to all. Ancient people attributed it to the stars of the season because they knew shit about DNA.)

no.  he didn't give a shit about monero.  until he figured out and confirmed he could kill it then he decided to go ahead and commit to it.

were u not watching the trollbox?  he wanted a 500btc bet (my guess is he figures the attack will cost him 500btc and the bet would have covered what he has to spend)

but regardless.  he wasn't wanting to "help the coin"

hahahaha "didn't he just want ot improve CN"  much shill.

Excellent, and isn't that what BCX wanted all along?  To improve CN?  The baby gets his bottle, and we can all move along.

Agreed. Thank you for clarifying.

Edit: Some research apparently suggests linkability can be inferred when untraceability is lost, e.g. when balances are merged (multiple inputs to a transaction). Actually the identity of the sender also depends on IP connection obfuscation too. Complex issue. Nevertheless I agree with his point that my contribution attacks the untraceability. And I agree any mitigation and understanding gained may help improve the CN technology.

My post was meant as constructive criticism.  I can see how you thought I was trolling.

I know very well that the trolling can't be stopped, so saying "the trolling needs to be stopped" wasn't a good of choice.  What I should have said is "something needs to be done about all this trolling" or "when bad and/or fake Monero supporters troll, it is in the best interest of the real Monero supporters to try to mitigate it."  Basically Monero is being damaged by trolling and it doesn't really matter if it was accidental or on purpose; the best thing to do when a person realizes they are being hurt is to try and do something about it.  The point of the post is that while the trolling can't be completely stopped, the damage caused from it could be softened significantly with some proactive actions by the people from Monero that do really believe in it and love it. 

Also the number 1 is still holding at 1.

Seems the universe is not concerned.

He (or anyone) can't publish known spenders because of stealth addresses. All addresses on the blockchain are one-time-use, so there is nothing on the blockchain to link your transactions with each other so as to create a virtual "identity." In effect this is a potential compromise to "untracability" in cryptonote, which would allow some transactions to link with with each other, but not "unlinkability".

How successful that is depends a lot on how probable these linkages are to be made, which we don't know. It also remains to be seen feasible the algorithm is to perform, and what steps can be used to control the impact. We don't know any of these yet.

In any case it is interesting work that will help improve the technology (all cryptonotes) going forward. Anonymint deserves credit for coming up with it.
 

See my edit. The rings can be randomly selected, but there will need to be enforcement on reuse of inputs. I will not reveal the specifics of the issue in public. Smooth has the information.

The essence of the problem I've discovered is that usersrings are allowed to mix with the same set of inputs too many times.

That doesn't tell you enough to do the calculation, but at least you hopefully see I am not full of shit.

I am not intent on attacking any coin. I am intending to help mitigate, if possible.

I will no longer favor BBR over XMR. They both get the same information from me.

I don't expect an attack on the private keys from BCX. Would be very surprising. Perhaps he has some other attack on wallets, but I don't have any idea what that would be, thus I doubt it.

As I said, the anonymity of some of the rings on the block chain appears to be broken (but my combinatorial algorithm is not yet tested nor fully characterized and vetted). There is nothing that can be done about that past history if I am correct. Whether BCX publishes the known spenders of rings or not is irrelevant, because it can be calculated by anyone at any time in the future. Once we have the algorithm running, we can determine which rings are not anonymous. This applies to all CN coins. I have a mitigation algorithm for future rings which works when there is no Sybil attack on the transactions. When there is a Sybil attack on the transactions, I don't yet comprehend how bad the problem is or is not. I am discussing it now with smooth. I don't yet know the running time or performance characteristics of my algorithm, nor its statistical properties. But the former may be irrelevant, as we have to compete with the NSA. Thus I've proposed the algorithm has to be run decentralized in conjunction with the PoW, if the complexity turns out to be NP hard.

Orthogonal to the anonymity issue above, I don't know if BCX can or will mount a difference or Time Warp attack using his GPU farms. I am not knowledgeable about the sort of damage he could do with that. I understand from reading others that the community has raised the hashrate so much that he will say that community fixed the problem. Rpietila has clarified privately that his 4 - 8% probability estimate did not apply to my likelihood of finding an exploit. That was only his estimate of whether BCX would mount an attack. It was not even an estimate of whether BCX could mount an attack. Rpietila can define the random variable more explicitly if he doesn't want me to become confused as to his intent.

P.S. I never expected the devs or anyone to cowtail to me. My only issue is my time opportunity cost. I don't want to waste my time. Time is of the essence for me for next couple of months.