Today I was unable to find virtacoin in the list of cryptocurrencies listed by Bleutrade exchange platform.
If you tried to withdraw your vta funds in the past and you haven't received your withdrawals, here is a short dialog I have had with Bleutrade admins (I tried reindexing the blockchain first, but didn't solved the problem):
Me: - My last 15 virtacoin withdrawals attached in the picture, not processed yet. Any idea?
Me: - I have attached 2 more files, maybe they can help you: 1) A picture of my desktop wallet (VirtaCoin Core), showing January transactions; 2) Exported data for January transactions (my VirtaCoin Core Wallet)
Bleutrade: -
Dear user, unfortunately virtacoin is in collapse due to network attacks. Bleutrade sent yours transactions correctly, but due to this problems the transactions are canceled in the future even after dozens of confirmations. We must wait indefinitely until the network stabilizes again. Best regards, Bleutrade Team.Me: - Ok, but still don't understand where are my coins? You canceled my withdrawals and you'll send my coins again when the network is more secure? Or you already sent them and they are lost? Please clarify. I need to know where are my vta coins right now. I mean, they are not in my vta core wallet (shows 'conflicted') and they are not in my Bleutrade account neither. So, where are they?
Me: - I just don't get it. I started the withdrawals from Bleutrade platform 10 days ago and today they are not in my pocket and not in my Bleutrade account neither. There are a lot of money involved. By comparison, I started the same withdrawal from another exchange platform and my coins arrived in my wallet long time ago. Would you please clarify that?
Bleutrade: -
Dear user, Virtacoin has been in collapse since November. Several transactions of all involved in virtacoin are in trouble, including Bleutrade. The problem seems to be caused by a super-powerful miner who can manipulate the blockchain. Bleutrade will resubmit your transactions soon, but there is still a risk that the transaction will be reversed again. Best regards, Bleutrade Team.Me: - Are there people on your platform who didn't try to withdraw their vta funds yet? What happen with their funds as long as I cannot see virtacoin listed on your platform?
Bleutrade: -
Dear user, virtacoin will be available to withdraw for 90 days or until all users have done so. You can access your balance on My Wallet -> Button Show delisted coins. Best regards, Bleutrade Team.Me: - Dear Admin, given the tickets #4681 and #4722 opened by me, including my documented fears regarding my virtacoin withdrawals, I wish (when you have time) to detail the possibility of canceling a transaction that has already reached blockchain. How is this possible? I did research on google and have not found any reviews stating that a transaction can be canceled once it is launched and reached the block chain and that is irreversible. Is the "reversed transactions" phenomenon due to 51% Attack meaning that they return back to sender? I am not tech and much of our community are not, so I spoke in the name of them too. I also kindly invite you to make a statement, which I will publish in our community circles, in order to dispel fears about the possibility that lately massive vta "conflicted" withdrawals to be lost. Thank you very much.
Bleutrade: -
Dear user, Bleutrade has not canceled any transactions, this is technically impossible. However, through a 51% attack it is possible to replace blocks of a blockchain with other blocks. If the network accepts other empty blocks, then the transactions do not exist, that is, they continue at the origin, it is what we call reversed transactions. This is detrimental to everyone, because you can not rely on deposits or withdrawals, since miners are playing with the blockchain. Best regards, Bleutrade Team.Me: - Here is your reply to one of my tickets: "Bleutrade will resubmit your transactions soon, but there is still a risk that the transaction will be reversed again."
I have 15 'conflicted' transactions into my desktop wallet right now. What will happen with my vta amounts which I tried to withdraw from Bleutrade? You said you will resubmit them to me. Doesn't it means they are on empty blocks?
Bleutrade: -
Empty blocks do not mean loss of coins, they mean loss of transactions. The transactions can be resubmitted without problems, but there will always be a risk of the transaction disappearing again, this should never occur, so that security is maintained, a reasonable amount of miners are necessary in the network and an update in the system to solve this bug.
We will start the resubmit procedure at this time so you can track the receipt in real time. Best regards, Bleutrade Team.Bleutrade: -
Dear user, please check https://chainz.cryptoid.info/vta/block.dws?548424.htm Block #548424 Block Hash 29c351d1d408dcf7222d14533dd9a355d4a8db2736842b9b22b7e9c7d67e2a2a
Your transactions have been confirmed in this block, If the hash of this block changes it means a collapse probably occurred by a new attack on the virtacoin network. Best regards, Bleutrade Team.Me: -
quod erat demonstrandum. Thank you for your patience, Bleutrade.
Reply from C-Cex: "Hello! Indeed our wallet responded with this transaction ID at your withdrawal request. However we made verifications and found it invalid. It's rare but happens from time to time and does not depend on exchange software. Reason could be a different kind of temporary failure of blockchain network like forks or connection issues. We already returned those coins back to your balance. Have a good day! Let us know if there is anything else we can help you with. Thanks!"*Note: I have had a withdrawal from c-cex marked as 'conflicted' on my VirtaCoin Core Wallet since December 24, 2016. My vta's are back to my c-cex balance now.
I hope the dialogues above (during several days) will help many people to understand why their transactions from Bleutrade are 'conflicted' right now. Do not bomb Bleutrade platform with tickets, wait for the right time to come, they will resubmit your transactions again when the network is more secured.
I just hope that words like "lost" or "stolen" will not appear in your posts again.