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legendary
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A Great Time to Start Something!
April 11, 2014, 07:53:59 PM
The owner/operator of Cryptsy is well known as he has repeatedly made it clear he is Paul Vernon from Del Ray Beach,Florida. Cryptsy is registered as a business with the State Florida. As such it makes it very easy to file complaints with the State of Florida over the issues we are having. Cryptsy is in the mid process of filing all the needed applications to enter into a USD market. The last thing they need are multiple complaints about financial mismanagement and issues right now as it would get them nixed pretty quickly. Florida is very aggressive on consumer issues like this and it doesn't matter if you reside outside the USA.

Paul Vernon himself, also know as BigVern needs to come in here and explain what is going on.  Not one of his "lackys" like BitJohn or pr9me but Paul Vernon himself.  I have a combined total of coins in limbo of about 63BTC. Enough is enough. Let us know what is going on or deal with the consequences.

What say you Paul Vernon?


UPDATE:

I took a day off on Thursday December 12th and drove up to Tallahassee to the Florida AG's Office. After about an hour lecture and introduction to Crypto for two Investigators and Assistant AG, I then showed them several exchanges and Cryptsy, who was operating inside the State of Florida. Excited wasn't the word, you would have thought it was Christmas in addition to their jaw's dropping when they saw the volume and the amount of unregulated $$$ flowing through Mr. Vernon's site. They were extremely concerned at the potential fraud that was happening and the theory of a possible multimillion dollar ponzi scheme just seemed to materialize out of thin air. While she said they couldn't determine "if anything was indeed amiss, they were certainly going to be talking to Mr. Vernon as well as contacting their Federal counterparts"

^ Asshats like you need to get out of Crypto for crying to the a State Government Authority. Just wow! Unregulated dollars? Are you a fucking moron? The OP must have much faith in the Federal Reserve and the corrupt banking system.  Roll Eyes

"jaw's dropping when they saw the volume and the amount of unregulated $$$?HuhHuh? flowing through Mr. Vernon's site." Last time I logged in I did not see any dollars being exchanged. The bases of Crypto is to be unregulated and not centralized you moron, for the people by the people.

I have been trading on crypty since the birth and I have never had any issues of missing coins etc, only the exchanges lag and stalls and sometimes coins taking a while to deposit. Cryptsy is sometimes frustrating because of bugs in the system but fuck peeps it needs time to mature.

To the dumb fuck who is trying to get the State Gov involved by filing a complaint, what a fucking moron. You need to provide proof to what you are claiming before you blow your asshole up, carry on asshat.

Cryptsy kill the BOTs to decrease the server load and bring back chat please.

Going to the Gov was a really bad move.
Cryptsy is a rare, decent exchange.
full member
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April 11, 2014, 06:29:28 PM
They are manipulating the market to increase their profit to the roof, its common now see buy orders higher than sell orders in the orders book (something impossible, and you can see almost all days.).
You can't beat them, even with the best bot.

Today, they simulate a pump but they don't fill the orders in the middle (I had one sell order sent hours before, but they start trading higher without fill the sell orders in the middle).
I have a perfect record with many other exchanges, but the Cryptsy records didn't match my records (coins disappear from my account).

it's a fraud. Be careful !

I have tons of screen shoots with absurd numbers. Just check the orders book of LTC/BTC market today.

They didn't answer the support tickets.
newbie
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February 12, 2014, 01:26:36 PM
choosing another ex is fair, but crying at the gov is foul. Got no respect for that.

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That's what I love about this crowd.
newbie
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February 12, 2014, 09:04:53 AM
choosing another ex is fair, but crying at the gov is foul. Got no respect for that.
newbie
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February 12, 2014, 08:26:59 AM
You know, this is really pissing me off. This is not an easy way to make money, at all. First we wade into it, many of us with little to no programing experience, fight through the maze of missing and misinformation, figure out how to get the miners set up, risk our hard earned money, which is which is harder to earn lately because of all the time it took to learn how to get mining efficiently, on hardware that we constantly have to add to and maintain. Then it's time to trade. Some people like to gamble. I don't. So, I pay very close attention to prices, and don't make long term predictions, which makes trading a very meticulous process. But I can reliably make gains that way, and not losses...

... as long as the FUCKING EXCHANGE DOESN'T SUCK.

Since this has to be an income for me, and not play money, I can't make big trades. I barely make 1% on each one, and cryptsy takes half of that, which is fine, as long as the exchange is there for me when I need it. That means that the information I see is in real time, not two minutes old. Thirty seconds is too long. It means that when I withdraw money, the withdraw is processed, then, not days later when the coin the shit is stuck in is selling for half as much and I've lost any gains it could have made me.

We mine all the coins. We make all the trades. We take ALL the risk, they take NONE. We do all the work, and all they have to do is keep the damn exchange working.

These problems are not just mere inconveniences. THEY COST US MONEY!

I'm sure each employee has a difficult job and works very hard. But vern... no.

High patronage is NOT a problem, for ANY business. If your site is to slow to handle the traffic that makes you your money, you need to dump that money that's flooding in on it until it can keep up. He obviously has not been doing enough of that. It's been this way too damn long.

Bter has plenty of volume in DOGE. Their trade fees are 28% less than vern's. They're rescanning the bitcoin blockchain right now, so don't expect a payout until that's done. Other than that, there's no reason for anyone to stay with cryptsy.


If too much traffic is his problem, we should help him out.
newbie
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February 03, 2014, 03:46:56 PM
Lol.. did you even read my post? That is what the "misunderstanding" is about. I'm telling them I didn't click buy twice.. it was one buy order that got executed twice by the exchange. Thanks anyway man.

Ok, that happened to me too. I sold more LTC than I actually had, but I knew that was wrong and made sure I had enough to cover it when it would become negative. If you would have researched before you would have realized what to do in case of that. You said you googled it, well then why didn't you sell it right away? No one is saying what Cryptsy allowed with this flaw was OK, we all agree it was a complete fail in their design. But, we knew this and we also knew you would lose money if you didn't sell it right away and got your balance back to positive. Why did you risk losing all your profits?

I already covered most of your question in my initial post, but you're almost right about one thing.. In hindsight I should've assumed that by trying to do the right thing that I would lose out. With your and Cryptsy's mentality it's a mistake I won't make again. Can you do me a favor and post a link to the research you're referring to? The only stuff I found were people frustrated by losing coins... or, wait, are we talking about the same research except in your conclusion you "sold quickly so you wouldn't potentially lose coins but others would"? I was trying to be selfless rather than selfish. (Inb4 "you miss the point of trading")

I've never had a problem with Cryptsy and they've always resolved things in a timely manner. I think they're the best exchange in the US. Everyone taking them to court or complaining about problems with second rate altcoins  is pretty dumb imo.

It's not the altcoins that are the problem, it's the exchange. I'm glad you've had a positive experience though, MANY of us weren't that lucky.

stuff

You most likely kept hitting buy when nothing was confirmed. This happened during a high load time and it IS your fault if you can think logically. When something is getting hammered, do you A. Keep spamming the buy/sell/cancel button or do you B. Hit the button once and then stop touching it.

Lol.. did you even read my post? That is what the "misunderstanding" is about. I'm telling them I didn't click buy twice.. it was one buy order that got executed twice by the exchange. Thanks anyway man.

I believe you. Smiley

As you can see, my 42 deposit tripled itself soon after it confirmed. lol


Apparently you've been handed an opportunity here my friend! Now that I've been enlightened and I've had confirmation from Cryptsy that exploits are OK, you should ride this wave to richdom!
legendary
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All cryptos are FIAT digital currency. Do not use.
January 31, 2014, 12:43:12 AM
stuff

You most likely kept hitting buy when nothing was confirmed. This happened during a high load time and it IS your fault if you can think logically. When something is getting hammered, do you A. Keep spamming the buy/sell/cancel button or do you B. Hit the button once and then stop touching it.

Lol.. did you even read my post? That is what the "misunderstanding" is about. I'm telling them I didn't click buy twice.. it was one buy order that got executed twice by the exchange. Thanks anyway man.

I believe you. Smiley

As you can see, my 42 deposit tripled itself soon after it confirmed. lol

After noticing that my deposit had arrived ... 

Quote
Status: 26 confirmations
Date: 21/01/2014 15:13
To: cryptsy 4JF3YMUj8yxMZUayN1ohfN4nvCuGMRSQjn
Debit: -0.00218592 42
Transaction fee: -0.00000001 42
Net amount: -0.00218593 42
Transaction ID: e76f68b1984f2a732cdadcc5dd2acb1a8d4c42736b6f3bd390daa03599835ea6

I stepped out for a smoke, then came back to this. Shocked  ... I mean Cheesy Grin Tongue  (edit) Seconds before, the deposit's balance was showing as available on the order page.



Then this on the order page ... Roll Eyes



If I'm seeing a surplus, no doubt others are missing coins.

Tread lightly folks...

UPDATE

The 0.00655776 42 is still there.

UPDATE II

The website is down.

newbie
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January 30, 2014, 10:40:35 PM
I've never had a problem with Cryptsy and they've always resolved things in a timely manner. I think they're the best exchange in the US. Everyone taking them to court or complaining about problems with second rate altcoins  is pretty dumb imo.
member
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January 30, 2014, 10:36:36 PM
Lol.. did you even read my post? That is what the "misunderstanding" is about. I'm telling them I didn't click buy twice.. it was one buy order that got executed twice by the exchange. Thanks anyway man.

Ok, that happened to me too. I sold more LTC than I actually had, but I knew that was wrong and made sure I had enough to cover it when it would become negative. If you would have researched before you would have realized what to do in case of that. You said you googled it, well then why didn't you sell it right away? No one is saying what Cryptsy allowed with this flaw was OK, we all agree it was a complete fail in their design. But, we knew this and we also knew you would lose money if you didn't sell it right away and got your balance back to positive. Why did you risk losing all your profits?
newbie
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January 30, 2014, 09:15:59 PM
stuff

You most likely kept hitting buy when nothing was confirmed. This happened during a high load time and it IS your fault if you can think logically. When something is getting hammered, do you A. Keep spamming the buy/sell/cancel button or do you B. Hit the button once and then stop touching it.

Lol.. did you even read my post? That is what the "misunderstanding" is about. I'm telling them I didn't click buy twice.. it was one buy order that got executed twice by the exchange. Thanks anyway man.
member
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January 30, 2014, 09:01:37 PM
stuff

You most likely kept hitting buy when nothing was confirmed. This happened during a high load time and it IS your fault if you can think logically. When something is getting hammered, do you A. Keep spamming the buy/sell/cancel button or do you B. Hit the button once and then stop touching it.
hero member
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January 30, 2014, 08:45:15 PM
TLDR; Cryptsy has also stolen my money (yes, some of us buy coins with "real" money) ( From the post above)

How does one use "real" money to buy coins at Cryptsy?

Could someone define "real money"? Is it real because you can hold it your hand? Or a wallet, bank, pocket or hide it under ground in jars?

I think he means real in that it is not counterfeit. I guess most of us use some kind of "fake" money.

My favorite "fake" money are white tailed deer. I have several bucks at home.
legendary
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MY RED TRUST LEFT BY SCUMBAGS - READ MY SIG
January 30, 2014, 08:10:30 PM
I hate thieves, but I hate Narcs and rats worse.

shitclones are the very worst though i need to buy a 500MH farm to 51% all those turds before they get started.
member
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January 30, 2014, 08:07:34 PM
I hate thieves, but I hate Narcs and rats worse.
newbie
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January 30, 2014, 07:58:26 PM
I was not trying to derail the topic. I was making a joke from what you posted, lighten up a bit champ. And I know Cryptsy has not integrated Fiat into the exchange and personally I hope they never do.

Good, thanks for your input. Even after reading your response for a third time I still miss the joke.. but ok. In regards to the fiat integration, if they do manage to get that going, then at least people getting screwed over will have a leg to stand on. By that I mean the value of fiat is understood by the legal system and worth can be attributed. It's easier to understand if someone said "I transferred $50k to Cryptsy and they stole it" than "I transferred 60 BTC.. etc".

Their "great new" money stealing feature will ultimately be their demise.. well, hopefully  Wink  Admittedly I haven't read through the entire thread but I do hope something comes of this complaint. I'd be keen to join the bandwagon/lynch mob but I'm not a US Citizen. I'll have to look at my options.
hero member
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January 30, 2014, 07:54:25 PM
I was not trying to derail the topic. I was making a joke from what you posted, lighten up a bit champ. And I know Cryptsy has not integrated Fiat into the exchange and personally I hope they never do.

Yeah I can imagine  your USD going bye bye or the BTC not showing up for a day or 2 after you buy it.
hero member
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January 30, 2014, 07:33:18 PM
I was not trying to derail the topic. I was making a joke from what you posted, lighten up a bit champ. And I know Cryptsy has not integrated Fiat into the exchange and personally I hope they never do.
newbie
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January 30, 2014, 06:52:59 PM
TLDR; Cryptsy has also stolen my money (yes, some of us buy coins with "real" money) ( From the post above)

How does one use "real" money to buy coins at Cryptsy?

Could someone define "real money"? Is it real because you can hold it your hand? Or a wallet, bank, pocket or hide it under ground in jars?

Oh shit, I knew there would be at least one of you trying to derail the topic by starting a debate about this. That's why I put "real" money in quotes to thwart people like you. Please, just..stop.

Now I don't know whether your question was an honest one or not or you're just trying to fuck around, but no.. you cannot buy coins with "real" (oh shit..I did it again) money on Cryptsy.
hero member
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January 30, 2014, 06:27:44 PM
TLDR; Cryptsy has also stolen my money (yes, some of us buy coins with "real" money) ( From the post above)

How does one use "real" money to buy coins at Cryptsy?

Could someone define "real money"? Is it real because you can hold it your hand? Or a wallet, bank, pocket or hide it under ground in jars?
member
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January 30, 2014, 06:22:34 PM
I personally haven't had any problems since using Cryptsy other than some delays with deposits and some serious lag at times causing bugs. It seems some people have been stung though and Cryptsy should do the right thing and get those problems fixed ASAP.

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