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Topic: [DeM] Deutsche eMark - DEM - cryptocoin SHA256 POS/POW - page 21. (Read 237393 times)

hero member
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Retired IRCX God
...[stuff]...
You keep saying that your block is "orphaned" while specifically referring to a block that was *not orphaned*. While that block may or may not be the obvious example to you of what you're trying to convey, it's the antithesis of "orphaned" (you got paid for it and you've even said so).

Here's the tl;dr answer to your issue:

If your pool is paying out 100DEM instead of 50DEM, then you have a pool issue; there is no code in the wallet that would create that issue.

Coins don't go "POOF"; not even with eMark!



There's a perverse irony in the fact that you seem so dense that you're making me defend the protocol of a coin that I find to be baseless in value.  Undecided
hero member
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...You should probably look into learning the basics of crypto before you go any further either as a user or as a miner Roll Eyes

Thanks for the information and suggestion I don't understand Crypto.

I know there can be other transactions combined in a single block.

I also know there can be empty blocks or Orphan blocks.

The Issue I questioned was about the transaction I listed, Each time I have a orphan block my pool catches it, the block is empty thus I do not receive any coins and miners don't get paid. But there has been 4 times like the transaction I listed that my Pool has mined a block received the newly minted coins and then once it confirms the newly minted coins go POOF in the wallet and in the same transaction another pools from what I can tell, distributes  the newly minted or mined coins.

If it was orphaned or a empty block I should be able to go back and search for the block and see that I didn't receive the coins which my pool would see and then not pay out according but in each of these transactions I mined the block but the coins go POOF like it was a Orphaned but it wasn't. So how is that possible and how do I stop it from happening again.

I hopefully explained the issue a little for you to understand.    

You still don't seem to understand the basics of what you're doing.
  • The block/tx you listed was not orphaned (in fact, at the time of writing, it has 7297 confirmations of 50.003 going to NZ2rHNdZz6qPoYMMwC18KSfBhAPjdrMNV6).
  • Another pool is not getting your coins*, much less "POOF in the wallet".
  • You are getting your reward for your blocks.
  • If your pool is sending your coins to an address that your wallet doesn't control*, then I suggest you learn how to operate a pool and what code drives it.
  • Your issue is on your end* and not eMark related.


* most likely you have both a master wallet and a payment address set and it's you paying yourself.

Again thank you for the information.

Ok let me try to explain this again so that you may hopefully understand.

My pool mines numerous blocks per day. In the last two weeks, I have noticed a total of 4 times a that a blocked has confirmed and the coins poof like the block was a Orphan. But after checking all of the blocks mined that day, the transaction I list previously was the only block that was not accounted for. Meaning I received 50 coins as the newly mined block would show and when it confirmed the coins where no longer there like the block had orphaned.

Listen I know how to run my pool and I completely understand how the blockchain works and I know what I am describing is impossible. And I aso know my wording of orphan or empty block maybe used improperly but I know what I am doing here I am not some noob that just threw up a pool and went DUH HELP Me this is why I posted on here in the first place. Cause I been racked my brain for like a week trying to figure out what is going on till it happened again and now two more times. Thankfully my pool is local so when I send out the payment it goes to my self so it is not a loss from the pool. But the newly minted coins are still going POOF.

It could be merely coding in my pool which I been over numerous times over and over and I am still going over and maybe just haven't found it. But there would be a log of something one way or another ether on my pool software or the wallet that would show where the coins where coins if I sent a silent payment out to some one other than myself

Again the transaction I listed at the time was the only one I could not account for in coming and then outgoing. Meaning my pool wallet had to cover the balance. Like if my pool wallet had 100 coins in it. But a pending balance of 150 cause it was waiting on the block to confirm. The block confirms my new balance is 150 the pool goes to make the payment which it pays out  49 coins to miners 1 for transaction fees and then my pool wallet is left with a 49 balance instead of 100. Cause at some point during making the transaction out to the miners and it broadcasting the 50 newly mined coins go POOF!

I haven't been able to watch this in real time but after reviewing all logs from pool and wallet this is the only conclusion I can come too.

hero member
Activity: 1092
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Retired IRCX God
...You should probably look into learning the basics of crypto before you go any further either as a user or as a miner Roll Eyes

Thanks for the information and suggestion I don't understand Crypto.

I know there can be other transactions combined in a single block.

I also know there can be empty blocks or Orphan blocks.

The Issue I questioned was about the transaction I listed, Each time I have a orphan block my pool catches it, the block is empty thus I do not receive any coins and miners don't get paid. But there has been 4 times like the transaction I listed that my Pool has mined a block received the newly minted coins and then once it confirms the newly minted coins go POOF in the wallet and in the same transaction another pools from what I can tell, distributes  the newly minted or mined coins.

If it was orphaned or a empty block I should be able to go back and search for the block and see that I didn't receive the coins which my pool would see and then not pay out according but in each of these transactions I mined the block but the coins go POOF like it was a Orphaned but it wasn't. So how is that possible and how do I stop it from happening again.

I hopefully explained the issue a little for you to understand.    

You still don't seem to understand the basics of what you're doing.
  • The block/tx you listed was not orphaned (in fact, at the time of writing, it has 7297 confirmations of 50.003 going to NZ2rHNdZz6qPoYMMwC18KSfBhAPjdrMNV6).
  • Another pool is not getting your coins*, much less "POOF in the wallet".
  • You are getting your reward for your blocks.
  • If your pool is sending your coins to an address that your wallet doesn't control*, then I suggest you learn how to operate a pool and what code drives it.
  • Your issue is on your end* and not eMark related.


* most likely you have both a master wallet and a payment address set and it's you paying yourself.
hero member
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@Gecoxs22:

check your Realtime Clock on your Computer . Sync with Internet Time

@All: SSDs on the Way , seems tomorrow getting the Hardware .
Merchant does not have requested Server SSDs on Stock .


Glen


Thanks for the suggestion. I checked and it syncs every 5 days at 12am. It synced last night.

Funny thing my name is Glen As well.Smiley
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@Gecoxs22:

check your Realtime Clock on your Computer . Sync with Internet Time

@All: SSDs on the Way , seems tomorrow getting the Hardware .
Merchant does not have requested Server SSDs on Stock .


Glen
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Hey Can any one explain to me whats going on in this block. http://185.194.142.165:3001/block/00000000000001846770e95ce09a07f7823da16f63e45eb75c7a55de49ff72e2

It looks like my pool mined the coins under this address NZ2rHNdZz6qPoYMMwC18KSfBhAPjdrMNV6 but when it confirmed another pool got the coins and my wallet didn't My Pools didn't Catch this and sent payment out anyways. Would love some help to better understand the transaction.

Thanks

Still Looking for help on this. If any one can explain how my Pool the first transaction on the list which shows my pool mining the new block and being sent the coins and how the second transaction which I guess is another pool spent the coins my pool mined in the first transaction.

Again any help would be greatly appreciated.


OK, it seems that you don't understand the basics of how crypto works....


In each block, there is a "coinbase" transaction; that is how miners get paid for their work (and that also applies to PoS coins because at the protocol level, PoS is still mining).
Each block may be "empty" (devoid of non-coinbase transactions) or contain, validate, and confirm an number of non-coinbase transactions. The latter is how the transfer of coins is recorded on the blockchain.

Block 1536546 contains 3 transactions:
  • 1 coinbase transaction of 50.003, which is the 50 reward for creating the block and 0.003 collected as "fees" for recording the other 2 transactions
  • 1 "private" transaction sending 49.5 (minus 0.001 in fees) from 1 account to 9 other accounts
  • 1 "private" transaction sending 1 (minus 0.002 in fees) from 1 account to another account

You should probably look into learning the basics of crypto before you go any further either as a user or as a miner Roll Eyes

Thanks for the information and suggestion I don't understand Crypto.

I know there can be other transactions combined in a single block.

I also know there can be empty blocks or Orphan blocks.

The Issue I questioned was about the transaction I listed, Each time I have a orphan block my pool catches it, the block is empty thus I do not receive any coins and miners don't get paid. But there has been 4 times like the transaction I listed that my Pool has mined a block received the newly minted coins and then once it confirms the newly minted coins go POOF in the wallet and in the same transaction another pools from what I can tell, distributes  the newly minted or mined coins.

If it was orphaned or a empty block I should be able to go back and search for the block and see that I didn't receive the coins which my pool would see and then not pay out according but in each of these transactions I mined the block but the coins go POOF like it was a Orphaned but it wasn't. So how is that possible and how do I stop it from happening again.

I hopefully explained the issue a little for you to understand.     
hero member
Activity: 1092
Merit: 552
Retired IRCX God
Hi, whattomine.com says that DEM nethash is only 514.53 Th/s
It's like only 42 S9, how is that possible? Or am I wrong?
And I can't find pools with good amount of miners, can someone give a hint?
Thanks
A good bit of the hashrate for this coin is on "profit switchers" (which switch to eMark when the price is high and/or the diff is low and then switch to another coin when it becomes more "profitable" in the moment).
copper member
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Hi, whattomine.com says that DEM nethash is only 514.53 Th/s
It's like only 42 S9, how is that possible? Or am I wrong?
And I can't find pools with good amount of miners, can someone give a hint?
Thanks
hero member
Activity: 1092
Merit: 552
Retired IRCX God
Hey Can any one explain to me whats going on in this block. http://185.194.142.165:3001/block/00000000000001846770e95ce09a07f7823da16f63e45eb75c7a55de49ff72e2

It looks like my pool mined the coins under this address NZ2rHNdZz6qPoYMMwC18KSfBhAPjdrMNV6 but when it confirmed another pool got the coins and my wallet didn't My Pools didn't Catch this and sent payment out anyways. Would love some help to better understand the transaction.

Thanks

Still Looking for help on this. If any one can explain how my Pool the first transaction on the list which shows my pool mining the new block and being sent the coins and how the second transaction which I guess is another pool spent the coins my pool mined in the first transaction.

Again any help would be greatly appreciated.


OK, it seems that you don't understand the basics of how crypto works....


In each block, there is a "coinbase" transaction; that is how miners get paid for their work (and that also applies to PoS coins because at the protocol level, PoS is still mining).
Each block may be "empty" (devoid of non-coinbase transactions) or contain, validate, and confirm an number of non-coinbase transactions. The latter is how the transfer of coins is recorded on the blockchain.

Block 1536546 contains 3 transactions:
  • 1 coinbase transaction of 50.003, which is the 50 reward for creating the block and 0.003 collected as "fees" for recording the other 2 transactions
  • 1 "private" transaction sending 49.5 (minus 0.001 in fees) from 1 account to 9 other accounts
  • 1 "private" transaction sending 1 (minus 0.002 in fees) from 1 account to another account

You should probably look into learning the basics of crypto before you go any further either as a user or as a miner Roll Eyes
hero member
Activity: 778
Merit: 515
Hey Can any one explain to me whats going on in this block. http://185.194.142.165:3001/block/00000000000001846770e95ce09a07f7823da16f63e45eb75c7a55de49ff72e2

It looks like my pool mined the coins under this address NZ2rHNdZz6qPoYMMwC18KSfBhAPjdrMNV6 but when it confirmed another pool got the coins and my wallet didn't My Pools didn't Catch this and sent payment out anyways. Would love some help to better understand the transaction.

Thanks

Still Looking for help on this. If any one can explain how my Pool the first transaction on the list which shows my pool mining the new block and being sent the coins and how the second transaction which I guess is another pool spent the coins my pool mined in the first transaction.

Again any help would be greatly appreciated.

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GCPOOL down .



SSD Raids disfunctional, for Security Reason shutdown and replacing SSD/HDD  Raids


be back after that .



Regards Glen
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Someone mines this cypto ? I've tried to download from mining pool but firewall blocks everry file.

Are this files dangerous for computer safety ?

Download Windows wallet here https://deutsche-emark.de/files/eMark-Qt-1.5.0-win.zip

Mining here http://gcpool.eu/p3333/public/
newbie
Activity: 40
Merit: 0
Someone mines this cypto ? I've tried to download from mining pool but firewall blocks everry file.

Are this files dangerous for computer safety ?
hero member
Activity: 778
Merit: 515
something going on with mining?  usually i get transactions of 10-20 dems. And now i get small amounts like 0.05 dem per transaction  Huh

Tried different pools same amount...

Not that I can tell. I am still getting 50 as a reward when my pool finds blocks.
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something going on with mining?  usually i get transactions of 10-20 dems. And now i get small amounts like 0.05 dem per transaction  Huh

Tried different pools same amount...
hero member
Activity: 778
Merit: 515
Hey Can any one explain to me whats going on in this block. http://185.194.142.165:3001/block/00000000000001846770e95ce09a07f7823da16f63e45eb75c7a55de49ff72e2

It looks like my pool mined the coins under this address NZ2rHNdZz6qPoYMMwC18KSfBhAPjdrMNV6 but when it confirmed another pool got the coins and my wallet didn't My Pools didn't Catch this and sent payment out anyways. Would love some help to better understand the transaction.

Thanks
hero member
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Anyone mining on www.coinminerz.com?  Been mining there for weeks but I seem to be throwing hash at it and not getting anything in return.  I was mining Peercoin but threw another miner on and it was pointed there for about three hours.  Usually it sends back small DEM payments every hour or so.
legendary
Activity: 2618
Merit: 1135
Why don't you release on github? I see the new commits but no release.
On GitHub is the newest release, but i think the readme is the old Wink
At the time he posted that, https://github.com/emarkproject/eMark/releases/tag/1.5.0 wasn't up yet.

Here is also the newest...

https://github.com/emarkproject/eMark

regards
member
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Any reason to mine this but not other?
hero member
Activity: 1092
Merit: 552
Retired IRCX God
Why don't you release on github? I see the new commits but no release.
On GitHub is the newest release, but i think the readme is the old Wink
At the time he posted that, https://github.com/emarkproject/eMark/releases/tag/1.5.0 wasn't up yet.
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