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Quote from: Kemarit on June 01, 2024, 06:12:02 PM

More interested on the Zhang vs Wilder fight, I put some money on Wilder ML so let's see.

Zhang just knocked out Wilder in the 5th round probably the worst loss of Deontay Wilder and possibly an end to his career Zhang caught him with a vicious right when he was off balance it was a perfectly time right hook it caught Wilder when he was not aware of it.

This a sorry loss for Wilder, Zhang just ate up his right hand and after round three Zhang was pressuring Wilder to open up, Wilder's wild punch which Zhang alluded to and his right hook hand did it for Zhang, Zhang quickly thinking of following it up just when Wilder was off balance and defenseless on that right hook.

We will never see a Wilder - Joshua match anymore because of this loss, Joshua is moving on while Wilder is going on retirement, it was not a good farewell fight for Wilder but he did have a great boxing career.

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Quote from: robelneo on June 01, 2024, 05:46:45 PM

The event is underway right now, Bivol stopped Zinad with a barrage of punches in under 1 minute in round 6 he has been pressuring Zinad since round one and he saw the opening in round 6, Bivol left hooks did a lot of damage on Zinad, I hope we can see the Beterbiev - Bivol this year.
The next fight is Dubois against Hrgovic which is another interesting fight to come

Good fight for Bivol, at least he got some action here as Zinad is not backing up, they even have to be separated and literally head to head at one round. Bivol also tasted some good shots from Zinad, but he just eat it. So good challenger here, but we can see the different as far as boxing skills though.

More interested on the Zhang vs Wilder fight, I put some money on Wilder ML so let's see.

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The event is underway right now, Bivol stopped Zinad with a barrage of punches in under 1 minute in round 6 he has been pressuring Zinad since round one and he saw the opening in round 6, Bivol left hooks did a lot of damage on Zinad, I hope we can see the Beterbiev - Bivol this year.
The next fight is Dubois against Hrgovic which is another interesting fight to come

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on June 01, 2024, 01:20:27 AM

The official weights for these fighters are Zhilei Zhang 282.8 lbs and Deontay Wilder 214.6 lbs. A massive difference of 68 lbs. Zhang’s only hope of winning is by knockout. He is 41 and not in great shape. Wilder isn’t known for his high ring IQ, but he will have to use what skill he has to avoid the power of Zhang and he also can’t allow Zhang to hold and push him around to make him tired.

Both fighters' only hope is through knockout, I have not watched Wilder winning by decision Cheesy

It either he knocks out his opponent or he gets a knockout or loses by decision, Wilder is not good at accumulating points and going the distance he always goes for the power of his right hand, even when faced with dire situations he will look for an opening to get his right hand over his opponent's face.

Wilder when he was champion was so good with his right hand that he and his trainers forgot or neglected to hound his skill and ring generalship and now he had a hard time developing it because subconsciously and consciously he just can't ignore his old style that brought him a lot of great victories.

With the weight differences, Wilder can go for knockout because Zhang cannot move a lot and once he remains stationary then he can unload his right, its style versus style here and I think Wilder's style will prevail.

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The official weights for these fighters are Zhilei Zhang 282.8 lbs and Deontay Wilder 214.6 lbs. A massive difference of 68 lbs. Zhang’s only hope of winning is by knockout. He is 41 and not in great shape. Wilder isn’t known for his high ring IQ, but he will have to use what skill he has to avoid the power of Zhang and he also can’t allow Zhang to hold and push him around to make him tired.

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Here is the face of Wilder and Zhang,

As you can see both are ready to battle this weekend at Riyadh and it seems that Wilder is focus because he knows that this is a one and done fight for him. If he losses then it over, if he wins then he can target bigger money fights with any of the big 3, Fury, Usyk and Anthony Joshua.

There's a lot of videos as well, the whole 5 vs 5 card.

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Zhang vs Wilder is an intriguing fight. Both are capable of knocking out each other. It is hard to imagine this fight to end in decision. I think Zhang knocks Wilder out in the middle rounds.

Intriguing indeed as both have knockout power but the fighter who have attractive odds here is Wilder so i'll be backing him to win this one bro. Wilder needed this win so he have something to offer if he wants to fight Anthony Joshua before he finally hang up his gloves for good.

Yes, he is a underdog in this fight and the odds for him are very attractive. And perhaps odds makers see the Zhang's power is going to be to hard for Wilder to contain and he could really be out of his prime.

But another intriguing match up is AJ vs Wilder, just imagine in this have fought each other before during the height of their popularity. They could have make a lot of money back then. They kept waiting though and we might not see that fight happening.

Wilder is indeed the underdog here but only slightly. Wilder lost in his previous fight. Wilder lost 2 of his last 3 fights. While Zhang is 2-2 of his last 4 fights but his losses were really close.

I am not really confident of an AJ-Wilder these days. Maybe possible if Wilder wins here but I don't think he beats AJ. Even when they're both champs and undefeated, the only chance Wilder beat AJ is to land his wild haymakers which is too open for counters. AJ is not that fast but he is better than Wilder defensively and has better skills.

But prime for prime though, I think it will be a good fight and if I'm not mistaken, fans are calling for it to happen. And if that happen though, I'm seeing that many Wilder will edge AJ that time because he can land that one hay maker and then it's over as AJ will lay on the ground.

For the odds, yes, they got it right here, Wilder lost 2 out of 3, while Zhang was 2-2 but his loses are very close fight and if only he had more stamina, he could have won that fight. So just couple of days from now, we will see if Wilder can be like in his second wind or it's time for him to retire if he losses this one.

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Quote from: blckhawk on May 28, 2024, 08:31:40 AM

I hope Wilder backs up those words because if he doesn't display what he's preaching then even if he wins, it wouldn't matter because people would find that performance lackluster and the win undeserving. Didn't know that Chinese boxers are fighting in the ring, I thought it's dominated by Mexicans and Americans, this is my first time seeing a Chinese boxer fighting so I'm a bit surprised. Other than that though, my money's on Wilder on this one.

I actually find those words irrelevant and it would remain a mockery reminder if he does not win the match.
You can imagine if the bla bla bla he was unable to fulfill all that! I guess it would feel messy or maybe he would have a change of mind to extend his contract for a rematch to just make sure he covers those shit holes. Lol.

I am though on Wilders side too. He had performed so great in the ring and I am going to miss him. Compassionately I wish him winning so he could make count of his last victory as he steps down from the boxing ring.

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Quote from: Natalim on May 30, 2024, 05:18:33 AM

Wilder's career is already done, he is on the retirement age and there's nothing to prove anymore as he was once a champion once but it's not his time now. Just like Fury, he was once undefeated but recently loss in a championship fight, so the title could change hands very fast but on the boxers that losses, it's really Wilder that struggles to come back on the top.

He already had an announcement that this could be his last fight and with only one win in four fights he may be heading for retirement but I know that deep in the heart of Wilder he still wants to continue and recapture his old glory nobody wants to exit with a lot of losses, they always dream of a great fight before they exit because this is what fans most remember I already said that I want him to win this match then go for Joshua even without a title fight it's going to be a very interesting fight.

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It was AJ who first taste a loss but he came back and now has a chance to have a championship fight. But we know he loss to Oleksandr Usyk so most likely we will see the same result and he might just retire in boxing after the fight.

We all thought it was the end of the road for Joshua Joshua did it twice after his losses against Ruiz and Usyk and now he is back on track, I'm sure Joshua is also hoping for Wilder to win so they can deal a fight because it's still a moneymaker, maybe they can do a loser will retire deal kind of a fight, that will be a very interesting fight.

And this is really the end of the road for Wilder if he lose this fight. But we knows, maybe he can pull that trigger? I watch some training videos of him and he looks like he is back mentally for this fight and wanted to get back at his career.

Regarding Joshua, yes, we also thought that he was on the brink of retirement after back to back L from Usyk. But he was able to overcome it and had a big win against Francis Ngannou pushing his career again to a new heights. And hopefully before Wilder thinks of retirement, we might want to see them fight, and I think it still has hype in it specially if it will happen in Saudi Arabia.

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Quote from: Natalim on May 30, 2024, 05:18:33 AM

Wilder's career is already done, he is on the retirement age and there's nothing to prove anymore as he was once a champion once but it's not his time now. Just like Fury, he was once undefeated but recently loss in a championship fight, so the title could change hands very fast but on the boxers that losses, it's really Wilder that struggles to come back on the top.

He already had an announcement that this could be his last fight and with only one win in four fights he may be heading for retirement but I know that deep in the heart of Wilder he still wants to continue and recapture his old glory nobody wants to exit with a lot of losses, they always dream of a great fight before they exit because this is what fans most remember I already said that I want him to win this match then go for Joshua even without a title fight it's going to be a very interesting fight.

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It was AJ who first taste a loss but he came back and now has a chance to have a championship fight. But we know he loss to Oleksandr Usyk so most likely we will see the same result and he might just retire in boxing after the fight.

We all thought it was the end of the road for Joshua Joshua did it twice after his losses against Ruiz and Usyk and now he is back on track, I'm sure Joshua is also hoping for Wilder to win so they can deal a fight because it's still a moneymaker, maybe they can do a loser will retire deal kind of a fight, that will be a very interesting fight.

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Zhang vs Wilder is an intriguing fight. Both are capable of knocking out each other. It is hard to imagine this fight to end in decision. I think Zhang knocks Wilder out in the middle rounds.

Intriguing indeed as both have knockout power but the fighter who have attractive odds here is Wilder so i'll be backing him to win this one bro. Wilder needed this win so he have something to offer if he wants to fight Anthony Joshua before he finally hang up his gloves for good.

Yes, he is a underdog in this fight and the odds for him are very attractive. And perhaps odds makers see the Zhang's power is going to be to hard for Wilder to contain and he could really be out of his prime.

But another intriguing match up is AJ vs Wilder, just imagine in this have fought each other before during the height of their popularity. They could have make a lot of money back then. They kept waiting though and we might not see that fight happening.

Wilder is indeed the underdog here but only slightly. Wilder lost in his previous fight. Wilder lost 2 of his last 3 fights. While Zhang is 2-2 of his last 4 fights but his losses were really close.

I am not really confident of an AJ-Wilder these days. Maybe possible if Wilder wins here but I don't think he beats AJ. Even when they're both champs and undefeated, the only chance Wilder beat AJ is to land his wild haymakers which is too open for counters. AJ is not that fast but he is better than Wilder defensively and has better skills.

Wilder's career is already done, he is on the retirement age and there's nothing to prove anymore as he was once a champion once but it's not his time now. Just like Fury, he was once undefeated but recently loss in a championship fight, so the title could change hands very fast but on the boxers that losses, it's really Wilder that struggles to come back on the top.

They are very different though, I mean when Wilder loses to Fury he wasn't the same anymore. As compare to Fury, this is his first lost so we don't know how he will react and he will have a rematch with Usyk.

Here is a interview with him, saying that he contemplates retiring, but seeing his lost to Parker as a blessing in disguise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyWFa6v0GNM

He say that he didn't have the killer instinct against Parker, but now he could be the "Wild" Wilder.

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Zhang vs Wilder is an intriguing fight. Both are capable of knocking out each other. It is hard to imagine this fight to end in decision. I think Zhang knocks Wilder out in the middle rounds.

Intriguing indeed as both have knockout power but the fighter who have attractive odds here is Wilder so i'll be backing him to win this one bro. Wilder needed this win so he have something to offer if he wants to fight Anthony Joshua before he finally hang up his gloves for good.

Yes, he is a underdog in this fight and the odds for him are very attractive. And perhaps odds makers see the Zhang's power is going to be to hard for Wilder to contain and he could really be out of his prime.

But another intriguing match up is AJ vs Wilder, just imagine in this have fought each other before during the height of their popularity. They could have make a lot of money back then. They kept waiting though and we might not see that fight happening.

Wilder is indeed the underdog here but only slightly. Wilder lost in his previous fight. Wilder lost 2 of his last 3 fights. While Zhang is 2-2 of his last 4 fights but his losses were really close.

I am not really confident of an AJ-Wilder these days. Maybe possible if Wilder wins here but I don't think he beats AJ. Even when they're both champs and undefeated, the only chance Wilder beat AJ is to land his wild haymakers which is too open for counters. AJ is not that fast but he is better than Wilder defensively and has better skills.

Wilder's career is already done, he is on the retirement age and there's nothing to prove anymore as he was once a champion once but it's not his time now. Just like Fury, he was once undefeated but recently loss in a championship fight, so the title could change hands very fast but on the boxers that losses, it's really Wilder that struggles to come back on the top.

It was AJ who first taste a loss but he came back and now has a chance to have a championship fight. But we know he loss to Oleksandr Usyk so most likely we will see the same result and he might just retire in boxing after the fight.

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Zhang vs Wilder is an intriguing fight. Both are capable of knocking out each other. It is hard to imagine this fight to end in decision. I think Zhang knocks Wilder out in the middle rounds.

Intriguing indeed as both have knockout power but the fighter who have attractive odds here is Wilder so i'll be backing him to win this one bro. Wilder needed this win so he have something to offer if he wants to fight Anthony Joshua before he finally hang up his gloves for good.

Yes, he is a underdog in this fight and the odds for him are very attractive. And perhaps odds makers see the Zhang's power is going to be to hard for Wilder to contain and he could really be out of his prime.

But another intriguing match up is AJ vs Wilder, just imagine in this have fought each other before during the height of their popularity. They could have make a lot of money back then. They kept waiting though and we might not see that fight happening.

Wilder is indeed the underdog here but only slightly. Wilder lost in his previous fight. Wilder lost 2 of his last 3 fights. While Zhang is 2-2 of his last 4 fights but his losses were really close.

I am not really confident of an AJ-Wilder these days. Maybe possible if Wilder wins here but I don't think he beats AJ. Even when they're both champs and undefeated, the only chance Wilder beat AJ is to land his wild haymakers which is too open for counters. AJ is not that fast but he is better than Wilder defensively and has better skills.

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Zhang vs Wilder is an intriguing fight. Both are capable of knocking out each other. It is hard to imagine this fight to end in decision. I think Zhang knocks Wilder out in the middle rounds.

Intriguing indeed as both have knockout power but the fighter who have attractive odds here is Wilder so i'll be backing him to win this one bro. Wilder needed this win so he have something to offer if he wants to fight Anthony Joshua before he finally hang up his gloves for good.

Yes, he is a underdog in this fight and the odds for him are very attractive. And perhaps odds makers see the Zhang's power is going to be to hard for Wilder to contain and he could really be out of his prime.

But another intriguing match up is AJ vs Wilder, just imagine in this have fought each other before during the height of their popularity. They could have make a lot of money back then. They kept waiting though and we might not see that fight happening.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on May 29, 2024, 03:27:31 AM

Zhang vs Wilder is an intriguing fight. Both are capable of knocking out each other. It is hard to imagine this fight to end in decision. I think Zhang knocks Wilder out in the middle rounds.

Intriguing indeed as both have knockout power but the fighter who have attractive odds here is Wilder so i'll be backing him to win this one bro. Wilder needed this win so he have something to offer if he wants to fight Anthony Joshua before he finally hang up his gloves for good.

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Quote from: blckhawk on May 28, 2024, 08:31:40 AM

I hope Wilder backs up those words because if he doesn't display what he's preaching then even if he wins, it wouldn't matter because people would find that performance lackluster and the win undeserving. Didn't know that Chinese boxers are fighting in the ring, I thought it's dominated by Mexicans and Americans, this is my first time seeing a Chinese boxer fighting so I'm a bit surprised. Other than that though, my money's on Wilder on this one.

If I remember correctly, China only produced 2 world champions in professional boxing over the years. But China is active in amateur boxing, maybe professional boxing is not just that big in their country. But it is surprising knowing the giant country with over a billion in population is always at the top together with the US in terms of sports generally which can be seen during Summer Olympics and other sporting events. Boxing at the moment is still dominated by Americans, Japanese, Mexicans and the British.

Zhang vs Wilder is an intriguing fight. Both are capable of knocking out each other. It is hard to imagine this fight to end in decision. I think Zhang knocks Wilder out in the middle rounds.

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Quote from: blckhawk on May 28, 2024, 08:31:40 AM

I hope Wilder backs up those words because if he doesn't display what he's preaching then even if he wins, it wouldn't matter because people would find that performance lackluster and the win undeserving. Didn't know that Chinese boxers are fighting in the ring, I thought it's dominated by Mexicans and Americans, this is my first time seeing a Chinese boxer fighting so I'm a bit surprised. Other than that though, my money's on Wilder on this one.

It is known that Wilder loves to trash talk, and maybe it's one way to motivate himself here because this is very important for him. He need this big win in order to be in the contention maybe against Joshua or Usyk in the future. He used to be a champion here until he face Fury and we all know that he didn't win that fight.

As for the Chinese fighter, he is good, big and has power and even his jab is enough to bring down a HW. I think you might have mistaken as there are only few Mexicans in this division and it was purely dominated by Americans or UK boxers. And so Zhang is an exception as this is the could be the first time we witnessed a Chinese going up in the HW weight class.

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I hope Wilder backs up those words because if he doesn't display what he's preaching then even if he wins, it wouldn't matter because people would find that performance lackluster and the win undeserving. Didn't know that Chinese boxers are fighting in the ring, I thought it's dominated by Mexicans and Americans, this is my first time seeing a Chinese boxer fighting so I'm a bit surprised. Other than that though, my money's on Wilder on this one.

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I think boxing and MMA are now nearly at par with each other. It's just that boxing existed longer and is more established. MMA grow quickly, particularly the UFC and a lot of people think it is better than boxing because they can see the best fighting against the best. But in the long run, we may see more MMA organizations growing big and getting their own top fighters too. It's like prime Fedor Emelianenko not fighting the UFC heavyweight champion because they belong from different organizations. Unlike in boxing wherein promoters and networks can still work with each other regularly.

Boxing promoters and networks are also giving huge guaranteed purse compared to the biggest MMA stars. Canelo is regularly taking $50 million per fight while Pereira and the other MMA stars are getting like $3 million per fight because Dan White and the UFC are taking the bulk of the profit.

The problem with MMA is they are promotional based compared to boxing where there are governing bodies and they can unify all the titles, we are not going to see that in MMA where a champion coming from UFC will agree to fight fighters that are on One championship or any MMA organizations, fights on MMA are in the house and the rules of the promotions are the one that will have an effect, this is why Ngannou did not sign a contract again on UFC because he wants a fighter to have control on sponsorship.

In boxing Pacquiao made a lot of money from sponsorships outside of his promoters he had a lot of sponsors on his boxing trunks and the sponsors' deals were paid handsomely to him directly.

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Do people still watch boxing? Joking obviously but with MMA fighting being so popular boxing has become obsolete. This particular fight Wilder is wanting to go out with a bang but might be biting off more than he can chew. Should be an entertaining fight, but Wilder likely loses and hangs his gloves up.

MMA might be more popular in the United States and a few European countries but around the world boxing still has a significant presence. Tyson Fury fought in front of 94,000 in attendance at Wembley Stadium a couple years ago, Naoya Inoue sold out the Tokyo Dome earlier this month. We’ve had some big fights involving Canelo, Inoue, Fury, Usyk and Lomachenko in the span of a month, which had a lot of buzz on social media so it’s kind of crazy to think people aren’t watching boxing anymore.

You forget to include Ryan Garcia as well. And then we have the powerful middleman from Saudi, HE Turki Alalshikh. So I think boxing is still good even if there is MMA in the background. And the thing is that MMA didn't get as much money as this boxers is getting in terms of championship fight. And you also have to look at how many MMA fighters wanted to test boxers, so that they will give that huge paycheck. Regarding this fight, it's already fight week already, so for sure many fights are also eager to see Wilder again in the ring against a dangerous Zhang.

I think boxing and MMA are now nearly at par with each other. It's just that boxing existed longer and is more established. MMA grow quickly, particularly the UFC and a lot of people think it is better than boxing because they can see the best fighting against the best. But in the long run, we may see more MMA organizations growing big and getting their own top fighters too. It's like prime Fedor Emelianenko not fighting the UFC heavyweight champion because they belong from different organizations. Unlike in boxing wherein promoters and networks can still work with each other regularly.

Boxing promoters and networks are also giving huge guaranteed purse compared to the biggest MMA stars. Canelo is regularly taking $50 million per fight while Pereira and the other MMA stars are getting like $3 million per fight because Dan White and the UFC are taking the bulk of the profit.

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