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Do people still watch boxing? Joking obviously but with MMA fighting being so popular boxing has become obsolete. This particular fight Wilder is wanting to go out with a bang but might be biting off more than he can chew. Should be an entertaining fight, but Wilder likely loses and hangs his gloves up.

MMA might be more popular in the United States and a few European countries but around the world boxing still has a significant presence. Tyson Fury fought in front of 94,000 in attendance at Wembley Stadium a couple years ago, Naoya Inoue sold out the Tokyo Dome earlier this month. We’ve had some big fights involving Canelo, Inoue, Fury, Usyk and Lomachenko in the span of a month, which had a lot of buzz on social media so it’s kind of crazy to think people aren’t watching boxing anymore.

Boxing is still popular and I hold it based on gate receipt and PPV no top MMA fighters can claim that they earned more than the top boxers, Ngannou earned more in his one fight

Francis Ngannou earned $20 million from his fight against Anthony Joshua.
For his fight with Tyson Fury, he earned $10 million, that's $30 million for two boxing matches.
He made $3.5 million from 14 UFC fights in 7 years.

Here is the breakdown of Ngannou's earnings both on MMA and boxing

https://www.givemesport.com/francis-ngannou-net-worth-boxing-ufc-earnings-purses

Back on Wilder, I don't think it is a money matter he has too much of it, every boxer wants a graceful exit if he wants this to be his last fight or if he still wants to get even on Fury or to share a ring with Joshua to fill up people's curiosity on who between them is the best, they've deprived the boxing fans so I'm sure Wilder and Joshua will still want to get it done.

That cannot be denied, Ngannou is very popular in UFC and promoters have seen that they can make a hype if he'll pair him with Fury in the ring and they succeeded it. And that result on his fight with Fury which was a controvertial one had help him increase his value, until he loss to Anthony Joshua.

I think the hype for him is already over but if he'll retire already, he can live a good life as long as he know how to invest his earning.

The biggest money are on the heaviest division, no wonder fighters like Wilder is still fighting despite already losing in most of his big fights after the loss to Fury.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on May 26, 2024, 06:52:16 PM

Quote from: yahoo62278 on May 26, 2024, 11:47:27 AM

Do people still watch boxing? Joking obviously but with MMA fighting being so popular boxing has become obsolete. This particular fight Wilder is wanting to go out with a bang but might be biting off more than he can chew. Should be an entertaining fight, but Wilder likely loses and hangs his gloves up.

MMA might be more popular in the United States and a few European countries but around the world boxing still has a significant presence. Tyson Fury fought in front of 94,000 in attendance at Wembley Stadium a couple years ago, Naoya Inoue sold out the Tokyo Dome earlier this month. We’ve had some big fights involving Canelo, Inoue, Fury, Usyk and Lomachenko in the span of a month, which had a lot of buzz on social media so it’s kind of crazy to think people aren’t watching boxing anymore.

Boxing is still popular and I hold it based on gate receipt and PPV no top MMA fighters can claim that they earned more than the top boxers, Ngannou earned more in his one fight

Francis Ngannou earned $20 million from his fight against Anthony Joshua.
For his fight with Tyson Fury, he earned $10 million, that's $30 million for two boxing matches.
He made $3.5 million from 14 UFC fights in 7 years.

Here is the breakdown of Ngannou's earnings both on MMA and boxing

https://www.givemesport.com/francis-ngannou-net-worth-boxing-ufc-earnings-purses

Back on Wilder, I don't think it is a money matter he has too much of it, every boxer wants a graceful exit if he wants this to be his last fight or if he still wants to get even on Fury or to share a ring with Joshua to fill up people's curiosity on who between them is the best, they've deprived the boxing fans so I'm sure Wilder and Joshua will still want to get it done.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on May 26, 2024, 06:52:16 PM

Quote from: yahoo62278 on May 26, 2024, 11:47:27 AM

Do people still watch boxing? Joking obviously but with MMA fighting being so popular boxing has become obsolete. This particular fight Wilder is wanting to go out with a bang but might be biting off more than he can chew. Should be an entertaining fight, but Wilder likely loses and hangs his gloves up.

MMA might be more popular in the United States and a few European countries but around the world boxing still has a significant presence. Tyson Fury fought in front of 94,000 in attendance at Wembley Stadium a couple years ago, Naoya Inoue sold out the Tokyo Dome earlier this month. We’ve had some big fights involving Canelo, Inoue, Fury, Usyk and Lomachenko in the span of a month, which had a lot of buzz on social media so it’s kind of crazy to think people aren’t watching boxing anymore.

You forget to include Ryan Garcia as well. And then we have the powerful middleman from Saudi, HE Turki Alalshikh. So I think boxing is still good even if there is MMA in the background. And the thing is that MMA didn't get as much money as this boxers is getting in terms of championship fight. And you also have to look at how many MMA fighters wanted to test boxers, so that they will give that huge paycheck. Regarding this fight, it's already fight week already, so for sure many fights are also eager to see Wilder again in the ring against a dangerous Zhang.

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on May 26, 2024, 11:47:27 AM

Do people still watch boxing? Joking obviously but with MMA fighting being so popular boxing has become obsolete. This particular fight Wilder is wanting to go out with a bang but might be biting off more than he can chew. Should be an entertaining fight, but Wilder likely loses and hangs his gloves up.

MMA might be more popular in the United States and a few European countries but around the world boxing still has a significant presence. Tyson Fury fought in front of 94,000 in attendance at Wembley Stadium a couple years ago, Naoya Inoue sold out the Tokyo Dome earlier this month. We’ve had some big fights involving Canelo, Inoue, Fury, Usyk and Lomachenko in the span of a month, which had a lot of buzz on social media so it’s kind of crazy to think people aren’t watching boxing anymore.

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Do people still watch boxing? Joking obviously but with MMA fighting being so popular boxing has become obsolete. This particular fight Wilder is wanting to go out with a bang but might be biting off more than he can chew. Should be an entertaining fight, but Wilder likely loses and hangs his gloves up.

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Quote from: Japinat on May 25, 2024, 05:22:01 PM

This should be a great fight for both, I'm sure we will see another exciting fight as Wilder tries to come back, but unfortunately he doesn't have the ability to last in the fight, so he needs to be more aggressive, hit a good shot and knockout Zhilei Zhang in the early rounds.

Wilder has a higher chance to KO Zhang if he starts the fight very aggressively and not be too afraid to take on Zhang, his strategy to digress from his normal aggressive fighting style in the made him loose his last fight to Parker, it will be a mistake to do that again. Zhang has a good KO record too, his strategy in this fight will be to strategically plan to place the right punches whenever Wilder gives him the opportunity Wilder has to make sure his punches do enough damage to Zhang. Maybe one fighter will KO the other, but It will not be in the first three rounds.

I want Wilder to win, I want his career to continue a bit more because if loses this fight, it could be the end for him.

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Quote from: Japinat on May 25, 2024, 05:22:01 PM

LOL, Parker beat them all, it was an upset on Wilder but Parker proven himself that he is on another level.

It's because Parker has some movement and being technical in my opinion, and he was able to stay there enough and although he was hit, it didn't damage him and so he just boxes his way out for a win.

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Deontay Wilder 38 years old, while Zhilei Zhang is over at 41 years old.
This should be a great fight for both, I'm sure we will see another exciting fight as Wilder will try to come back, but unfortunately he doesn't have the ability to last in the fight, so he needs to be more aggressive, hit a good shot and knockout Zhilei Zhang in the early rounds.

I'm seeing that if this fight will go distance, it's for Zhang, if it ends in 6 rounds or less, it's for Wilder.

Zhang's gas tank could be in question in, and if it goes to distance, maybe he will be out of gas and gets tired and maybe that's what Wilder could exploit specially in the championship rounds. Wilder should look at the tapes on how Parker beat Zhang and maybe he tries to go and outbox him and just cover up to avoid Zhang's power and jab too and then try to bring his power as well in the table and make Zhang uncomfortable early.

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LOL, Parker beat them all, it was an upset on Wilder but Parker proven himself that he is on another level.

Deontay Wilder 38 years old, while Zhilei Zhang is over at 41 years old.
This should be a great fight for both, I'm sure we will see another exciting fight as Wilder will try to come back, but unfortunately he doesn't have the ability to last in the fight, so he needs to be more aggressive, hit a good shot and knockout Zhilei Zhang in the early rounds.

I'm seeing that if this fight will go distance, it's for Zhang, if it ends in 6 rounds or less, it's for Wilder.

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It's a stack up cards so there's a lot of us boxing fans to look at not just this fight. Obviously the main even is Dmitri Bivol vs Malik Zinad. Although what we wanted is him against Beterbiev. But we will have to wait, Bivol just need to win this and then him and Beterbiev be rescheduled for this year hopefully.

It is a stack-up card and look it's only a week before the big fight could have been a lot more interesting if Beterbiev did not suffered an injury still a blockbuster event with the presence of Dubois and Hrgovic there's still no final announcement if these two are fighting for the IBF title as there will be announcement in the coming days

I haven't check as well, but the latest news is that this is going to be for the interim belt and Usyk has the major belt right now since obviously he had all the belts in the HW. But the IBF said that they are going to strip him of his belt, so we really don't know how things are going to be for this fight if it is interim or the regular belt. And we don't like Usyk to be strip as he will have a rematch with Fury and so we wanted to see all the belts on the line in the second fight to be fair.

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The main event alone is a do or die Wilder hints on a retirement but could change his mind if he can knock out Zhang not an easy task but if he can connect those rights he had a chance.

Exactly, a must win for him otherwise, his career might be over and can't regain his status as champion. And if Zhang wins then his cinderella story will continue and could be up for a title fight next.

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Just cast my votes to see who the community is favouring and this is what I found out

Wilder by KO   - 0 (0%)
Wilder by Decision   - 0 (0%)
Zhang by KO   - 5 (83.3%)
Zhang by Decision   - 1 (16.7%)
Total Voters: 6

Really?! It was four years ago when many thought Wilder is Boxing's invincible fighter until he met Fury and the rest is history, at 38 years old having achieved many things except the undisputed champion he is in the twilight of his career and Zhang could be the one to send him to retirement, I hope he can give one good fight and he can go out with grace, 97.67% knock out rate by a heavyweight is hard to achieve.
Come June 1 Wilder's fate will be decided.

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Daniel Dubois vs Filip Hrgovic must be one of the most exciting part of the fight card. You just can't pick your dog and then expect the win. Better to leave this out of your parlay. I could lean on Filip but Dubois could potentially pull it off. More exciting than the main event.

The fight will not go to distance which I think the gas isn't going to be an issue to Zhang. This is the kind of fight that ends with just one-two combination.

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Quote from: Kemarit on May 22, 2024, 05:18:20 PM

It's a stack up cards so there's a lot of us boxing fans to look at not just this fight. Obviously the main even is Dmitri Bivol vs Malik Zinad. Although what we wanted is him against Beterbiev. But we will have to wait, Bivol just need to win this and then him and Beterbiev be rescheduled for this year hopefully.

It is a stack-up card and look it's only a week before the big fight could have been a lot more interesting if Beterbiev did not suffered an injury still a blockbuster event with the presence of Dubois and Hrgovic there's still no final announcement if these two are fighting for the IBF title as there will be announcement in the coming days

The main event alone is a do or die Wilder hints on a retirement but could change his mind if he can knock out Zhang not an easy task but if he can connect those rights he had a chance.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on May 22, 2024, 01:32:10 AM

Exactly, this could be a war as both have limited skills. Both are old but Zhang is older. Wilder has a weaker chin but he also carries the heavier punch so both can end up getting hurt here. Maybe Zhang will try to box safely but I doubt he is quicker than Wilder although he can set up his counters to stop the American.

I agree with that strategy, if Zhang wanted to win this fight, then don't just rely on his power, use his jab more, as it is very effective and it's not just the usual jab by Zhang possesses one of the heaviest jab in HW. Gas tank will play a big factor here, we will see who will ran out of gas and then the other take that opportunity to score or win via a knockout.

Quote from: inthelongrun on May 22, 2024, 01:32:10 AM

This is still an exciting match up but I will be more focused on the title fights in the same card. Hopefully, Bivol delivers a knockout, it's been a long time since the last one. Also the long awaited overdue title shot of Filip Hrgovic. He wasted years and is the most avoided fighter at heavyweight. I believe he could've demolished AJ and Wilder when those 2 were still undefeated champions.

It's a stack up cards so there's a lot of us boxing fans to look at not just this fight. Obviously the main even is Dmitri Bivol vs Malik Zinad. Although what we wanted is him against Beterbiev. But we will have to wait, Bivol just need to win this and then him and Beterbiev be rescheduled for this year hopefully.

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Quote from: TravelMug on May 22, 2024, 05:25:08 AM

Zhang is also good for a couple of rounds just like in his fight against Joseph Parker. The latter was able to survived early and then outboxed a obvious tired and exhausted Zhang till 12 rounds. So there is the blue print how to beat Zhang. It's just a matter on how Wilder will have to execute in this fight. He will rely on is power, but he needs to be able to withstood the early barrage from Zhang and he will be good.

Wilder's big concern is Zhang jabs, it's very punishing this is what Joyce suffered in their two fights I believe Zhang can deliver these jabs, Wilder's defense is not that good but he is a one-shot fighter he can take anyone if he connects, so it's going to be Zhang jabs and Wilder's right hand.

I agree that Zhang had issues with stamina if Wilder can bring the fight to the championship rounds he can deliver that powershot.

Zhang's strategy to win is to do a Parker-like performance swarm him and pour a lot of punches because Wilder has a very weak defense, as we've all seen in his match against Parker.

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Quote from: aioc on May 22, 2024, 05:15:22 AM

Anthony Joshua has resurrected his career after two heartbreaking losses to Usyk, but Wilder is still struggling to get to the top. It's only been six years, and these two are what the boxing world wants to meet in the ring. They are heading in two different directions. Joshua is headed to the top again, while Wilder is struggling to develop his career.

I'm not sure if you can call a win against Francis Ngannou resurrects Joshua's career. Yeah, Francis went toe to toe and almost upset Tyson Fury. It's that AJ exposed a former MMA fighter is no match against a top caliber boxer.

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If Wilder loses again here, I think his career is over. Zhang is still dangerous, can take big punches, and has good technical skills, something that haunts Wilder whenever he is faced with a guy with power and good movement in the ring.
I hope Wilder can get past Zhang because after this we might see a Joshua - Wilder that we failed to see.

Zhang is also good for a couple of rounds just like in his fight against Joseph Parker. The latter was able to survived early and then outboxed a obvious tired and exhausted Zhang till 12 rounds. So there is the blue print how to beat Zhang. It's just a matter on how Wilder will have to execute in this fight. He will rely on is power, but he needs to be able to withstood the early barrage from Zhang and he will be good.

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Anthony Joshua has resurrected his career after two heartbreaking losses to Usyk, but Wilder is still struggling to get to the top. It's only been six years, and these two are what the boxing world wants to meet in the ring. They are heading in two different directions. Joshua is headed to the top again, while Wilder is struggling to develop his career.

If Wilder loses again here, I think his career is over. Zhang is still dangerous, can take big punches, and has good technical skills, something that haunts Wilder whenever he is faced with a guy with power and good movement in the ring.
I hope Wilder can get past Zhang because after this we might see a Joshua - Wilder that we failed to see.

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Exactly, this could be a war as both have limited skills. Both are old but Zhang is older. Wilder has a weaker chin but he also carries the heavier punch so both can end up getting hurt here. Maybe Zhang will try to box safely but I doubt he is quicker than Wilder although he can set up his counters to stop the American.

This is still an exciting match up but I will be more focused on the title fights in the same card. Hopefully, Bivol delivers a knockout, it's been a long time since the last one. Also the long awaited overdue title shot of Filip Hrgovic. He wasted years and is the most avoided fighter at heavyweight. I believe he could've demolished AJ and Wilder when those 2 were still undefeated champions.

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I’ve checked the odds and Zhilei Zhang seems to be the slight favorite. The Chinese fighter is a lot like Wilder in that he relies almost entirely on his knockout power to win fights. There is not many other dimensions to their strategy. It will be about who will be able to better resist their opponent's power.

Wilder is 38 years old, but Zhang is even older at 41. Zhang’s age and worse conditioning will be the factors which I believe will give Wilder an upset victory, as long is he isn’t too gun shy like he was against Parker.

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Since the Usyk vs Fury is over, and as far as HW goes, this is the next big though. Both power punchers and maybe we are going to see someone kissing the canvass in this big fight. Zhang is still the favorite in this fight and I think fight fans are leaning in him because Wilder doesn't look good in this last fight. Although Zhang lost in this last fight, he did shows resiliency. But he faces a technical boxer and although he did connect early, he wasn't able to sustain it.

There are some videos of Wilder in training or taking a run so obviously put more gas in his body in this fight.

But let's see, winner could have a good chance to be the mandatory for any of the belts that Usyk hold for now.

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Two members already siding with Zhang so I'm also tempted but betting on this will probably be a last minute decision for me. I want to see how he looks like a day or two before the fight. It's still nice to know Wilder is treating this seriously even though it's not as big as his other fights. It also shows that he's really motivated to win.

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