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Topic: DeOS (by Razormind) is most likely a scam! EDIT: Ongoing investigation!!! - page 18. (Read 66953 times)

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And btw, I have personal Twitter account (not the @FAILCommunity), which I have since February 2014, but I started using it just recently (October 17th). Just noticed that @Razormind have blocked it as it happened with the @FAILCommunity account. And all because of that tweet: https://twitter.com/bulgar1an/status/788026360530866177

Probably the main reason is that I'm a troll....

EDIT: Just not to post twice. Weiner just confirmed that this is legit conversation and he even called me stupid etc... but that doesn't matter: https://twitter.com/bulgar1an/status/789476619526279168

DeOS/Razormind most likely is a scam, but you are a bastard for what you've done and the harm you've caused.
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It's not irrelevant.

This whole thread opens with Spartak accusing Razormind of creating the altcoin Razorcoin..

Well if that's as far as you've got into this thread I strongly suggest you set aside some reading time and get yourself all nicely caught up before the authorities do.

Seriously. You think we give a shit about Razormind/Razorcoin/RZR confusion?

Are you dumb or delusional?



It gets better.  This whole thing started two months ago when they ASKED ME TO JOIN THEIR TEAM.

I thought they were delusional and I didn't hear from Razormind again for weeks.

Then he hits me up out of the blue on Skype and I ask him if he was aware of who I was and he said "no".  That part of the conversations was cleverly edited out.

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For a crypto company that started with a shitcoin generator to allegedly 260 employees in various countries and millions in fund raising, the CEO can't seem to use Google.

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=who%20made%20razor%20cryptocurrency
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And btw, I have personal Twitter account (not the @FAILCommunity), which I have since February 2014, but I started using it just recently (October 17th). Just noticed that @Razormind have blocked it as it happened with the @FAILCommunity account. And all because of that tweet: https://twitter.com/bulgar1an/status/788026360530866177

Probably the main reason is that I'm a troll....

EDIT: Just not to post twice. Weiner just confirmed that this is legit conversation and he even called me stupid etc... but that doesn't matter: https://twitter.com/bulgar1an/status/789476619526279168
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It's not irrelevant.

This whole thread opens with Spartak accusing Razormind of creating the altcoin Razorcoin..

Well if that's as far as you've got into this thread I strongly suggest you set aside some reading time and get yourself all nicely caught up before the authorities do.

Seriously. You think we give a shit about Razormind/Razorcoin/RZR confusion?

Are you dumb or delusional?

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It's not irrelevant.

This whole thread opens with Spartak accusing Razormind of creating the altcoin Razorcoin..

'Razormind guys are clearly behind the already failed RazorCoin (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annrzr-razor-cutting-edge-of-technology-torno-preico-updated-nodes-644498), which screwed a lot of people (me included, but that's not the reason for posting this thread), and this is enough for me not to believe in any of their future projects (or whatever):'

There is a simple explanation for that: I am not editing my threads/comments as you guys do with your "presentations", website and materials of any kind. That was an honest mistake and the confusion was later cleared out. But that doesn't change the fact that Jawad  tweeted about RZR"s price and later changed his stance, when it no longer suited him, right? (see the lasts posts made by cryptodevil)

I think it's safe to say that this thread could be ranked in btctalk's top 100 of all time in terms of information regarding some shady activities. And you came here to say that RZR is not Razorcoin/Razormind? WOW!

That is not the truth. Bryce Weiner is the creator of the coin.

You don't say?

I asked about your name, but you clearly avoided to answer so I think you are Jawad itself. Some PR you are...
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It's not irrelevant.

This whole thread opens with Spartak accusing Razormind of creating the altcoin Razorcoin..

'Razormind guys are clearly behind the already failed RazorCoin (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annrzr-razor-cutting-edge-of-technology-torno-preico-updated-nodes-644498), which screwed a lot of people (me included, but that's not the reason for posting this thread), and this is enough for me not to believe in any of their future projects (or whatever):'

That is not the truth. Bryce Weiner is the creator of the coin.
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Bryce Weiner initiated discussions with Razormind via Twitter about possible involvment in DeOS.
Weiner reached out to Jawad Yaqub via Skype this morning.

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[21/10/2016, 10:02:34] Bryce Weiner: I don’t care.  Seriously.  That was two years ago and quite frankly I had no idea who you were until you contacted me.


Not sure if your chat log is fake or you're just generally full of shit but I agree with spartak - hilarious.
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...nobody fucking cares Jawad...

This thread is not about RZR, Jawad, it is about the serious fraud through Razormind you and your accomplices have been shown to be guilty of.


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Two Years of Mistaken Identity Finally Come to a Close.


Bryce Weiner initiated discussions with Razormind via Twitter about possible involvment in DeOS.
Weiner reached out to Jawad Yaqub via Skype this morning.


[21/10/2016, 03:30:38] Bryce Weiner: Also, you should be aware that I am the developer of Razorcoin and you have a page on your site that is nothing but unsubstantiated lies.

I have serious reservations about participation with you and perhaps we should address this issue first.

I've also heard very disturbing things regarding your crowdsale. I would like some sort of verification of your fundraising. Could you provide a signed wallet address?

Believe it or not my reputation in this industry is of ethical conduct and the highest integrity. It is why I am still here after the smears that appear on the internet. I cannot and will not be involved with any project that isn't completely above board.
[21/10/2016, 03:31:32] Bryce Weiner: That you didn't seem to know that Razorcoin was my project makes me wonder as to your due diligence among other things.
[21/10/2016, 09:57:44] Jawad Yaqub: Wait
[21/10/2016, 09:57:56] Jawad Yaqub: YOU guys developed RazorCoin?
[21/10/2016, 09:58:08] Jawad Yaqub: SERIOUSLY What On Earth?Huh?
[21/10/2016, 09:58:22] Jawad Yaqub: We got SO MUCH Abuse for that, because people thought we were you.
[21/10/2016, 09:58:44] Jawad Yaqub: People are still chasing their losses from you folks
[21/10/2016, 09:58:55] Bryce Weiner: Not “you guys”.  Me… PERSONALLY.  And when it was brought to my attention you were perpetuating those lies on your website to clear your own name I had to wonder if you really knew exactly who you were talking with.
[21/10/2016, 09:58:58] Jawad Yaqub: have you admitted you were behind that Altcoin?
[21/10/2016, 09:58:58] Bryce Weiner: Losses?
[21/10/2016, 09:59:01] Bryce Weiner: Are you serious?
[21/10/2016, 09:59:08] Jawad Yaqub: we didn’t develop RazorCoin
[21/10/2016, 09:59:10] Jawad Yaqub: you did!
[21/10/2016, 09:59:17] Bryce Weiner: Damn right I did and the whole world knows it.
[21/10/2016, 09:59:26] Jawad Yaqub: and people are SERIOUSLY pissed with you about it because they lost money
[21/10/2016, 09:59:28] Bryce Weiner: But that doesn’t excuse what you have on your website, which is the perpetuation of lies.
[21/10/2016, 09:59:29] Jawad Yaqub: and they blamed us
[21/10/2016, 09:59:38] Jawad Yaqub: and you’ve never taken credit for it?
[21/10/2016, 09:59:43] Bryce Weiner: Nobody lost money.  If you want to continue to spread those lies thats on you.
[21/10/2016, 09:59:45] Bryce Weiner: Read the thread.
[21/10/2016, 09:59:51] Bryce Weiner: Everyone knows it was me.
[21/10/2016, 09:59:51] Jawad Yaqub: That’s what people said
[21/10/2016, 09:59:56] Jawad Yaqub: they blamed us for being you
[21/10/2016, 10:00:00] Bryce Weiner: People lie an you did no research.
[21/10/2016, 10:00:04] Bryce Weiner: It makes me wonder.
[21/10/2016, 10:00:10] Jawad Yaqub: and had nothing but bad things to say RazorCoin
[21/10/2016, 10:00:13] Bryce Weiner: It’s also 2am now.
[21/10/2016, 10:00:21] Jawad Yaqub: I didn’t know anything about you, and thought you were legit.
[21/10/2016, 10:00:26] Bryce Weiner: We donated $4,000 to kids with aspergers w/ that coin.
[21/10/2016, 10:00:38] Jawad Yaqub: please come forth and tell them honestly you were behind that altcoin and the mess
[21/10/2016, 10:00:44] Bryce Weiner: We sponsored them to learn MMA from a man who literally wrote the book on it, Danny Plyler
[21/10/2016, 10:00:47] Jawad Yaqub: othewise I’ll have to
[21/10/2016, 10:00:48] Bryce Weiner: DUDE
[21/10/2016, 10:00:52] Bryce Weiner: YOU HAVE NO IDEA
[21/10/2016, 10:00:53] Jawad Yaqub: and my goodness
[21/10/2016, 10:00:55] Bryce Weiner: ITS IN THE THREAD
[21/10/2016, 10:00:59] Bryce Weiner: EVERYONE KNOWS ITS ME
[21/10/2016, 10:01:00] Jawad Yaqub: the amount of sheer abuse i got
[21/10/2016, 10:01:02] Bryce Weiner: YOU DID NO RESEARCH
[21/10/2016, 10:01:13] Jawad Yaqub: because it had nothing to do with us
[21/10/2016, 10:01:21] Jawad Yaqub: we don’t deal with that alt coin market man
[21/10/2016, 10:01:23] Bryce Weiner: “Stole your branding”
[21/10/2016, 10:01:31] Jawad Yaqub: you guys took the name 'razorcoin'
[21/10/2016, 10:01:32] Bryce Weiner: I’m seriously pissed off.
[21/10/2016, 10:01:37] Bryce Weiner: No
[21/10/2016, 10:01:40] Bryce Weiner: It was called “Razor"
[21/10/2016, 10:01:40] Jawad Yaqub: after we had the domain, and the factory sorted
[21/10/2016, 10:01:45] Jawad Yaqub: why would you do that???
[21/10/2016, 10:01:46] Bryce Weiner: Other people called it “razorcoin"
[21/10/2016, 10:01:49] Bryce Weiner: Now
[21/10/2016, 10:01:53] Jawad Yaqub: RazorCoin is what it was called
[21/10/2016, 10:01:56] Jawad Yaqub: and what people know it as
[21/10/2016, 10:02:02] Jawad Yaqub: and people think we made it
[21/10/2016, 10:02:04] Jawad Yaqub: not you
[21/10/2016, 10:02:10] Jawad Yaqub: you should have told us when you found out
[21/10/2016, 10:02:13] Bryce Weiner: Bullshit.  It’s my coin.  I am telling you the name is razor.  Would you like to see the repo?  the thread?
[21/10/2016, 10:02:14] Jawad Yaqub: not now ages later
[21/10/2016, 10:02:30] Jawad Yaqub: also you could have told people we at least had nothing to do with it’s dev
[21/10/2016, 10:02:34] Bryce Weiner: I don’t care.  Seriously.  That was two years ago and quite frankly I had no idea who you were until you contacted me.
[21/10/2016, 10:02:38] Jawad Yaqub: that’s really unethical
[21/10/2016, 10:02:42] Jawad Yaqub: fair enough
[21/10/2016, 10:02:43] Bryce Weiner: Unethical my ass
[21/10/2016, 10:02:45] Jawad Yaqub: but when you knew
[21/10/2016, 10:02:50] Jawad Yaqub: why didn’t you pipe up?
[21/10/2016, 10:02:55] Bryce Weiner: For what?
[21/10/2016, 10:03:00] Bryce Weiner: I don’t address lies.
[21/10/2016, 10:02:55] Bryce Weiner: For what?
[21/10/2016, 10:03:00] Bryce Weiner: I don’t address lies.
[21/10/2016, 10:03:01] Bryce Weiner: Ever
[21/10/2016, 10:03:05] Bryce Weiner: That’s not my style
[21/10/2016, 10:03:09] Jawad Yaqub: we were getting hammered because people thought we were you
[21/10/2016, 10:03:15] Bryce Weiner: That’s not my problem.
[21/10/2016, 10:03:17] Bryce Weiner: Sorry.
[21/10/2016, 10:03:18] Jawad Yaqub: you didn’t think it was the right thing to do to clear that up
[21/10/2016, 10:03:20] Bryce Weiner: Life sucks sometimes.
[21/10/2016, 10:03:20] Jawad Yaqub: it is
[21/10/2016, 10:03:27] Jawad Yaqub: people are being blamed for your actions
[21/10/2016, 10:03:32] Jawad Yaqub: things you should answer for honestly
[21/10/2016, 10:03:37] Jawad Yaqub: that’s not right man
[21/10/2016, 10:03:38] Bryce Weiner: I took responsibility for my actions and always have.
[21/10/2016, 10:03:41] Jawad Yaqub: fine
[21/10/2016, 10:03:43] Bryce Weiner: That you never heard about it isn’t my problem.
[21/10/2016, 10:03:48] Bryce Weiner: This conversation is ovr.
[21/10/2016, 10:03:50] Bryce Weiner: Good luck to you
[21/10/2016, 10:03:51] Jawad Yaqub: then tell people please that we aren’t RazorCoin
[21/10/2016, 10:03:54] Bryce Weiner: Do not contact me again.
[21/10/2016, 10:03:57] Jawad Yaqub: you are to blame
[21/10/2016, 10:04:02] Jawad Yaqub: and are criminals
[21/10/2016, 10:04:15] Jawad Yaqub: please stay away from us
[21/10/2016, 10:04:17] Jawad Yaqub: thank you
[21/10/2016, 10:04:21] Jawad Yaqub: and good bye.
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That issue was dealt with in the first couple of pages of this thread. There isn't a direct link between Jawad Yaqub's 'Razorcoin' cookie-cutter clonecoin factory and Bryce Weiner's 'RZR' Razorcoin pump and dump shitcoin.

But Jawad seemed happy enough to associate with it in May 2014, having the 'Razorcoin' twitter account retweet a 'Razormind' tweet about the price of RZR.
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and then changed his tune a couple of months later when it probably dawned on him that RZR's dumpage would also likely trash his 'Razorcoin' name.
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The Bryce Weiner RZR shitcoin is an issue concerning Bryce Weiner and his conscience, there are far, far bigger issues connected to Jawad Yaqub and his multi-million-dollar Razormind 'DEOS' fraud.


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I'm running out of :facepalm: gifs.

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Be sure to fill out a financial crime report with the UK agency if you like: http://www.actionfraud.police.uk/
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Just to give SAS Software another example of the many:

Razormind's version
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Original version
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... and in "Truth or AND Consequence" news, we have this little teaser:

Razormind blocked me, so I've had to resort to talking to their 'clients', instead.
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Hmmm, I wonder if Jawad and Phil realise that trying their usual, "It was a PR company what went and done gone done that, soz!" excuse won't fly with the people they stole from:
http://www.tubechop.com/watch/8463714
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They were put up about 18 months ago by the agency that we had to set up that particular website. I'm going to put my hand up and say that was a fault of ours, you know, we should have been more careful about that, we should have checked everything. Those people are still our clients and we still work with them.

Here's the thing, Jawad, pretending an 'agency' plagiarised and misrepresented SAS Software's content as Razormind's isn't going to cut it. You are actually going to have tell them which agency was responsible for this fraud and, well, I think we all know why air-quotes are applicable to your use of the word 'agency'.

http://www.tubechop.com/watch/8463760
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So one of the things that I didn't realise when I went into this was how just how closely, you know, people would check and sort of, you know, do all these things.

Yeah, we get that you didn't realise the process of fraudulently collecting millions of dollars in bitcoin would cause some people to check the legitimacy of you and your operation. Curse us, why must we be such awful trolls, spreading truth and information when we should just be posting 'Mooooon' gifs and pics of Lambos.

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Good morning, today in 'WTF' news we have:

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Somebody will ring him in the 'next day or so'? Then what? What will telephoning Feng (and everyone else you're screening before letting them see your bullshit 'platform') actually achieve? Will it stop them from realising you're just fobbing them off with a javascript o/s and an omni-layer token? Because you really shouldn't worry about that, we already know.

https://deos.io/news/5-users-demand-refund-as-truth-about-razormind-come-to-light
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Why Malik deleted the phone calls records?

Malik is quiet for while. And surprise me that delete of the voice recording.

1) I guess Jawad had been black mailing to Malik.  I got an impression Jawad probably holding Malk's balls that's why his way of  talking was totally looking down Malik.

2) Or press from Islamic SNS made him so?

Malik should make a noise if he wants to show up he is not the scam troopers.
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Why Malik deleted the phone calls records?
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