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Topic: DeOS (by Razormind) is most likely a scam! EDIT: Ongoing investigation!!! - page 19. (Read 66953 times)

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So, the scammer may split collected BTC to two streams that 1) routed to Antshares ICO 2) routed to Jawad wallet.

is this the case?

No, it is more likely that the address posted by 'Rippleme' was incorrectly identified as Razormind's when it was actually the Antshares escrow.

'rippleme' said he had traced the payments made by his friends, but he also didn't know that a bitcoin address beginning with 3 denotes a multisig address, so it suggests he is not overly familiar with the blockchain.

Either that or his post was an intentional 'red herring' to mislead us.

Given some of the evidence coming to light back here it would not surprise me.



Totally screwed up on that. I was given that info, searched on here and found this thread and thought I'd share the info.
I HATE SCAMMERS and in this space there are plenty. When one or more are found they need to be exposed!
I had confidence one of you guys could do more research than me, as cryptodevil says I'm not technical nor an expert.

So I checked in with my friends (2 cousins and not so sharp) after seeing the few pages of comments since last time I posted, and literally told them WTF have you given me?
One of them said they got confused as they did participate in the Antshares sale, but mentioned something went wrong there too but it was their fault... Didn't quite get it...
Long story short I asked for the DEOS TX Ids, but they are away right now on holiday... It wasn't much money they can't be bothered.

If I manage to get hold of the TX Ids I'd definitely come back to post them.
Apologies if I have wasted your time. As a community member I appreciate the time you guys spend looking into and exposing scammers!

legendary
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For the benefit of latecomers to this thread, below is an example of the theft of content for the purpose of fraudulent misrepresentation repeatedly perpetrated by Jawad Yaqub and Phil Sturgeon prior to and during the 'crowdsale'/ICO. They *really* had a thing for stealing from this particular company, I wonder if there's history there?

Let's play a game of spot-the-difference between Razormind's website and that of SAS, the company they stole this from:

http://www.razormind.co.uk/health-partners/
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http://www.sas.com/en_us/customers/healthpartners.html
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legendary
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While events are . . .unfolding, let's just take the time to point out how Jawad and Phil fraudulently and illegally extended the ICO period by two weeks through announcing a bullshit 'pause'

Finally, in "What.The.Actual.Fuck News":
http://www.razormind.co.uk/crowdsale/
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DeOS Crowdsale
is PAUSED until
26th August 2016, 12:00 Noon GMT

to allow DeOS Grant Winners to raise money.



You see, the ICO was supposed to end on 26th August

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But instead, as they pretty much did all through this illegally-run sale of securities (You can't say it has no cash value while also attributing a cash value to it, Jawad), they changed the terms once again and a decision was made to pretend like they were able to magically 'pause' the ICO process without it simply being a case of them wanting to buy more time for their bullshit PR lies to draw in more victims.

What they ended up with was not the six-weeks timespan originally stated but, instead, it was run for 8 weeks.

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Now I know it must be exhausting for Jawad and Phil to constantly have to keep track of which lies they've said, when and to whom, but considering the repeated tweets they put out about posting the details of the 'winners' of the GBP 1,000,000 worth of DEOS (Oh look, yet another attribution of cash value to their totallynotasecurity-security),
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I'm still trying to find where, oh where, could they have posted them?

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So basically if somebody trolls him he gets to keep their money? Is that some weird UK law?

Sounds like somebody hurt Jawad's gay cyberfeelings.

As if he cares about the law. He has already broken tons of them.
legendary
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Nothing says a 'platform for the people' quite like demanding users register with their mobile phone number because . . .criticism trolls!

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What are you afraid of Jawad, a review?

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The irony . . .it burns!

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I demanded a refund and they never sent my deos tokens.
legendary
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Interesting point to note about this announcement:

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According to the distribution address http://omnichest.info/lookupadd.aspx?address=1En1EB2CznxGstNh1uFUPARMhAtRoy3nzF these 27 transfers were processed between 22:23 and 03:45 UK Time. Which suggests the possibility that Jawad and Co are no longer in the UK.

As for the "small number of registered users" remaining, the fact that there are, even after last night's distribution, still 8,809,715 more of these DEOS tokens to send out from the claimed 9,200,000 sold raises yet more questions as to WTF is going on with this scam right now. That is no small quantity and I'd speculate that it may well be because serious investors who put in large amounts of bitcoin and subsequently discovered the fraudulent nature of the whole thing, may be refusing to provide the information Jawad needs because they do not want to take delivery of these worthless tokens and are intent on attempting recovery of the several millions dollars-worth of bitcoin those 8.8+ million DEOS tokens would have been sold for.


legendary
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I am so sick of the animated 'testimonials' https://vimeo.com/94147033
...
I really feel sorry for the ladies and gentlemen on that page that they're appointed as CEOs/CTOs of some non-existing companies for no reason.

Yeah I don't imagine these 'Fiverr' video people agreed to their images being used to falsely claim them to be on the board of fake blue-chip companies for the purposes of misrepresenting a sham organisation.


16NndHpNJyhqmXRso4dGjtW5V7fhWviGWQ

This is the address I was given by razormind.

If that is the case then your deposit was sent here: 1LbXHMsxXJfaBdfNw9sasinYXS1at6KU2Z which had a total of BTC336 received into it before it was emptied. The odd thing is that there seems to have been a number of transactions outgoing from that address, many of them for small amounts, which would suggest it was a hot wallet they were simply using to pay for goods and services.

Either that or it is a mixing address.


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LOL,  Razormind troopers here and there  Grin

BTW, I got an worthless-coin email to a trash mail box.

http://us10.campaign-archive1.com/?u=f4255b146e6732a2b89d1ee15&id=64f0da1441&e=4fa823eff0

they want to act something further although we identified them as SCAM.  Cool

Needless to say, they state their mailing address to the MI5 address what cryptodevil mentioned.  Grin
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I am so sick of the animated 'testimonials' https://vimeo.com/94147033



I really feel sorry for the ladies and gentlemen on that page that they're appointed as CEOs/CTOs of some non-existing companies for no reason.


Mary Federer - CEO of Allianz. CEO of what Allianz? Allianz.tk? Allianz plumbing? Allianz & Son cloud mining?
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Couple of more things I have found:

2 year old Jawad Yaqub DeOS interview:
http://nxbuc.xyz/stream/mExxf9sPU0E

Jawads Online CV/Resume
https://issuu.com/jawadyaqub/docs/jycv
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1. Razormind/DeOS is an MI5 operation
OR
2. Razormind/DeOS is not an MI5 operation


2.1: Razormind is a terrorist organization attempting to raise money and using this fake address as a "fuck you" to MI5.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/palace-barracks-explosion-at-mi5-headquarters-and-army-base-in-northern-ireland-caused-by-device-hidden-in-postal-van-31451937.html

Maybe somebody should contact the base and let them know what is going on.
legendary
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No, he will then just send them 9,2M (I think that many DeOS tokens were sold?) and just say:
- There you go, these are 9.2M BTC, go buy some boats.
legendary
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Seeing as the @razormind twitter twattery is now tweeting:
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Razormind ‏@razormind 19h19 hours ago

Next #deos distribution will be on Monday -- we're adding the surge of latecomers.

Let's just remind ourselves of the sort of the, extremely Garza-esque, post-ico market-price bullshit they were trying to con people with during the final week of their ICO, sorry 'crowdsale'.

https://www.reddit.com/r/icocrypto/comments/50sh1h/razormind_deos/
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Do you see that? "afterwards DEOS will be set at 1:1 BTC."

He is explicitly stating that people can buy DEOS tokens at 1000, 500 and then 250 DEOS per bitcoin during the 'crowdsale' but that afterwards they will be priced at 1 DEOS per bitcoin.

That is a direct assertion to convince people they can expect to make hundreds of times their investment back if they buy during the ICO/crowdsale.

So many laws broken, Jawad, so very many laws broken.




legendary
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No, that's the postcode BT34 3HQ, somewhere completely different in Northern Ireland.


What we DO know, however, is that Jawad and his wife sister clearly lived at that address in MI5's Palace Barracks. His wife sister was on the board of a women's charity for a short period of time and gave 55 Clive Road as her correspondence address:

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Now, we have two states of logic here, either:

1. Razormind/DeOS is an MI5 operation
OR
2. Razormind/DeOS is not an MI5 operation

Let's take each one in turn and break it down:

1. Razormind/DeOS is an MI5 operation - Well I guess it isn't beyond the realms of possibility that the intelligence services would seek to create an intelligence-gathering platform which they hope would be used by people falsely believing it to be a truly decentralised and secure environment, pretty much as Jawad has consistently attempted to claim it to be. Although I don't see how turning everybody's device into the equivalent of a netbook using cloud-based apps on somebody else's servers could ever hope to pretend to be the privacy-centric user-controlled p2p utopia it was marketed as.

Besides, while 'Military Intelligence' is the de-facto dictionary example given for the definition of the word 'oxymoron', I seriously doubt MI5 would be so stupid as to register an operational sham company to their own fucking Barracks!

Which leaves us with:

2. Razormind/DeOS is not an MI5 operation - Which really makes things *so* much more amusing. You see, whatever reason Jawad had for living there, his decision to register Razormind to that address and then to ultimately go on to perpetrate a multi-million dollar 'crowdsale'/ICO scam centred on fraudulently misrepresenting the scale and scope of the company and the people connected with it, makes this situation beyond farcical, for both Jawad and MI5.

But if we add in the concerns regarding the possible ideological motivation of some of the participants of this fraud, such as Doctor James 'Sulayman' Ferguson, things stop being quite so funny.

In any event I note that Razormind's website has recently been updated from this:

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To now include this:

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Ismael Malik has already alleged that Jawad is pivoting his plans to expedite the installation of bitcoin ATMs so he can cash-out the proceeds from this fraud. The question remains, however, is this just a personal cash-grab by Jawad and Phil, or is there a more insidious intent behind the establishment of a network of bitcoin ATMs and a supposed $5,000,000 'Blockchain Bank' for 'the poorest' in Belfast and Paris for which he neither could properly explain the source of the necessary funding, having denied it was coming from the DEOS 'crowdsale' money, nor explain how such a 'bank', which is slated to offer zero-interest loans, intended to handle the issue of non-performing (not repaid) zero-interest loans.

At this stage a simple cash-grab through conducting the all-too-common 'crowdsale'/ICO 'bullshit crypto project' fraud is significantly less worrying than the broader picture of what seems to be an attempt to establish a Razormind-controlled ideology-driven financial network.

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16NndHpNJyhqmXRso4dGjtW5V7fhWviGWQ

This is the address I was given by razormind.

Never receieved a token.

When I asked @razormind about this issue, they simply blocked me in Twitter.

Can I consider myself scammed¡?
legendary
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Just a little update on this:

Turns out I was wrong. It would seem Dr Ferguson knows all about Razormind. Which is beyond disturbing seeing as he is an actual practising Doctor of Medicine and NOT an IT guy or a 'brand' specialist. This now raises the question of whether he is knowingly colluding with Jawad.

Let me show you how I go from "Dr Ferguson is just an innocent Muslim being used by another Muslim" to "Dr Ferguson's apparent knowledge of Razormind suggests he is in on the fraud".

I messaged Dr Ferguson on twitter to see if he might express surprise and concern at being used to promote a scam:

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This is the response I got:

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Which doesn't really look good for James Ferguson if he chose to simply block me rather than question what I was referring to. Kinda suggests that he knows what I am talking about, doesn't it?

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Just as an asides, for anyone who wants a better idea of what Dr James Ferguson aka Sulayman Ferguson is about, he wrote an interesting sympathy piece about John Philip Walker Lindh, also nicknamed "The American Taliban". He admires the guy so much he attributes his choice of Islamic name to him:

http://everything2.com/user/mr100percent/writeups/John+Walker+Lindh
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So, again I ask the question, why would a practising medical professional in New York permit his profile to be used to falsely represent him as a tech and 'brand' professional as part of a fraudulent 'crowdsale' process which collected millions of dollars in bitcoin?


legendary
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Jawad is escaping with 600BTC sent to Polo just now!!    Shocked Shocked Shocked

https://blockchain.info/address/12cgpFdJViXbwHbhrA3TuW1EGnL25Zqc3P



No you're misinterpreting the address. That address is listed as a Poloniex wallet, not a Poloniex customer's wallet. The transactions are those being done by Poloniex themselves, it is where some of the DEOS 'crowdsale'/ICO funds were sent, meaning that Jawad cashed them out or traded them for other coins to obfuscate the funds.

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