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December 05, 2012, 05:49:22 PM
The Open Transactions Client (for Grandmas) bounty at:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bounty-185-btc-open-transactions-client-for-grandmas-105506

is 185 BTC. That times the 11.7 USD/BTC mtgox price gives a total value of about 2,160 USD. If the bounty value goes above 2,500 USD, an eight generation share bounty will be added to the pledges.

Since the above was written, a 10 bitcoin pledge was added:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1344583

bringing the total pledge to 195 bitcoins. That times the latest 13.3 USD/BTC price gives a total value of 2,594 USD. So the devcoin pledge has been added:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1380815

Edit: Because the number of generation shares has increased, the bounty has been increased to 24 shares.
legendary
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December 04, 2012, 07:00:35 PM
Last time I updated some altcoins to a newer version of bitcoin code, I created a patch file afterward to record what I had had to change, it is merged_mining.patch, at https://sourceforge.net/projects/galacticmilieu/files/

Bitcoin code has changed a lot again since then so I doubt it would apply cleany to new versions of bitcoin. But basically all the altcoins that can be merged-mined need to be updated.

Basically a r3ecent but stable version of bitcoin needs to have the merged mining patches applied and a new diff taken to give us a new merged mining patch that works with recent bitcoin code, then the patch can be applied repeatedly, once per altcoin, adding also for each coin the changes other than the merged mining as secondary chain, that make it different from bitcoin. Diffs should be taken then too, to get a patch for each altcoin that shows how it differers from a vanilla bitcoin with a vanilla merged mining patch applied.

Possibly various chains might like to offer some bonus/reward for their own chain's part of such a task, and going forward maybe the first step for any of them should be to first update the generic merged mining patch and release it, before going on to apply it to each chain.

-MarkM-
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December 04, 2012, 05:47:28 PM
Devcoins price dipped on vircurex, goin cheap to turn around and sell at higher price in a few days when they go back up Smiley
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December 04, 2012, 12:29:25 PM
devcoin windows build up to date (latest release of markm).

legendary
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December 04, 2012, 08:21:22 AM
I found my missing qmake-qt4, it seems in upgrading to Fedora 17 it didn't give me qt-devel package, which now is qt-4 development package.

So I was able to do the qmake-qt4 to create a Makefile for the -qt version, and I added to its include and library paths my local dependencies dir so it could find my modified openssl that I custom made to include elliptic curve crypto that Fedora still does not distributed, and I added the -fpermissive that C++ now needs to make it ignore that fact that various things are not defined in the order that it now strongly prefers. I also had to add -mt suffix to the boost threads lib name, and add -ldl to the libs.

So now I have managed to compile the -qt version on Fedora 17.

-MarkM-
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December 03, 2012, 07:13:27 PM
I used it last month for a few days, but I couldnt tell what was and was not working, I will attempt again to get it functioning on windows though, I would prefer to use the p2pool though.
legendary
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December 03, 2012, 07:03:59 PM
What kind of patch? Some day we need anyway to try to apply the merged mining patches to a very recent copy of bitcoin, pretty much all merged mined coins will need to do that so figuring it out would benefit all of them.

-MarkM-


Markm, that would be awesome, would it be possible to setup a very basic webform to give out usernames/pw for each user so that we can track the mined btc/dvc/nmc etc on your pool? The only reason I am not using your pool right now is due to troubleshooting issues, I could not confirm if the mining was functioning properly through the webpage since I didnt have a login to check my workers. I would love to be able to login with an assigned user account and check on my workers, I would literally be on it all day every day in case a worker goes down.

No one has used the pool for months so at end of November I announced it is closed instead of bothering to go through all the math with only me as user.

Thus I did not record the totals of each coin at end of month, thus cannot tell how much has been mined this month, so wouldn't now be able to know at end of this month how much to share out. The way to tell if it was working should have been simply the bitcoins p2pool would have sent you automatically, or the stats graph it creates per user.

p2pool is intended that people run it themselves anyway so if eventually people do get interested they can easily run it themselves it is almost trivially easy since it has support for merged mining built right in so just follow the instructions and presto your own personal p2pool with merged mining of as many coin types as you choose to tell it about. Plus you'd get to keep all the various kinds of coins, instead of being paid for them in devcoins like I was doing.

-MarkM-
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December 03, 2012, 06:43:54 PM
K1773R's Massive Multichain Abe

Abe: http://darkgamex.ch:2751/
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Excellent work. You are hereby awarded 2 shares from the devcoin block explorer bounty:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.937183

for the devcoin part:
http://darkgamex.ch:2751/chain/DevCoin

and you'll get 2/5 ongoing for as long as the devcoin explorer works.

There are two awards remaining in the devcoin block explorer bounty.
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December 03, 2012, 06:41:09 PM
What kind of patch? Some day we need anyway to try to apply the merged mining patches to a very recent copy of bitcoin, pretty much all merged mined coins will need to do that so figuring it out would benefit all of them.

-MarkM-


Markm, that would be awesome, would it be possible to setup a very basic webform to give out usernames/pw for each user so that we can track the mined btc/dvc/nmc etc on your pool? The only reason I am not using your pool right now is due to troubleshooting issues, I could not confirm if the mining was functioning properly through the webpage since I didnt have a login to check my workers. I would love to be able to login with an assigned user account and check on my workers, I would literally be on it all day every day in case a worker goes down.
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December 03, 2012, 06:35:08 PM
What kind of patch? Some day we need anyway to try to apply the merged mining patches to a very recent copy of bitcoin, pretty much all merged mined coins will need to do that so figuring it out would benefit all of them.

-MarkM-
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December 03, 2012, 06:32:28 PM
Cool, ok will watch with anticipation. Keep up the great work killer/markm
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December 03, 2012, 06:31:19 PM
K1773R's Massive Multichain Abe

Abe: http://darkgamex.ch:2751/

Following Chains can be "browsed":
  • DVC
  • NMC
  • IXC
  • I0C
  • GRC
  • CLC

Problems:
  • BTC cant be imported due to a bug, PPC not yet (patches), LTC maybe if someone wants it.

Future plans:
  • Support every chain possible.

To support anonymity, all logfiles are automaticly safely deleted with shred every hour.

http://darkgamex.ch:2751/tx/0421151b4287b274d0150f723f9f0a9fa0c342b7d25ae0354008b129919eace9#o1

I was successfully able to track a transaction that I processed on the windows version of the devcoin qt.

perfect Wink

I havent checked your download again yet, can you note if you already updated the devcoin qt for the icon/name? Also what are the chances you would be able to create a similar to bitcoind patched with devcoind patched so that we can start tweaking it to create sites that automate payouts similar to the bitcoin sites?
im not working on devcoin's codebase, this is markm's stuff/job.
as i said, i will post here as soon its done.
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December 03, 2012, 06:29:22 PM
K1773R's Massive Multichain Abe

Abe: http://darkgamex.ch:2751/

Following Chains can be "browsed":
  • DVC
  • NMC
  • IXC
  • I0C
  • GRC
  • CLC

Problems:
  • BTC cant be imported due to a bug, PPC not yet (patches), LTC maybe if someone wants it.

Future plans:
  • Support every chain possible.

To support anonymity, all logfiles are automaticly safely deleted with shred every hour.

http://darkgamex.ch:2751/tx/0421151b4287b274d0150f723f9f0a9fa0c342b7d25ae0354008b129919eace9#o1

I was successfully able to track a transaction that I processed on the windows version of the devcoin qt.

perfect Wink

I havent checked your download again yet, can you note if you already updated the devcoin qt for the icon/name? Also what are the chances you would be able to create a similar to bitcoind patched with devcoind patched so that we can start tweaking it to create sites that automate payouts similar to the bitcoin sites?
legendary
Activity: 1792
Merit: 1008
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December 03, 2012, 06:26:40 PM
K1773R's Massive Multichain Abe

Abe: http://darkgamex.ch:2751/

Following Chains can be "browsed":
  • DVC
  • NMC
  • IXC
  • I0C
  • GRC
  • CLC

Problems:
  • BTC cant be imported due to a bug, PPC not yet (patches), LTC maybe if someone wants it.

Future plans:
  • Support every chain possible.

To support anonymity, all logfiles are automaticly safely deleted with shred every hour.

http://darkgamex.ch:2751/tx/0421151b4287b274d0150f723f9f0a9fa0c342b7d25ae0354008b129919eace9#o1

I was successfully able to track a transaction that I processed on the windows version of the devcoin qt.

perfect Wink
legendary
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December 03, 2012, 06:26:17 PM
GRC? Hmm. Usually we have been using GRP to represent GRouPcoin.

Would you use BBQ, BBC, or BQC for barbeque coin if you had to fit it into three letters?

-MarkM-

i can change that if neccessary, it would be BBQ because its barbeque Tongue
legendary
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December 03, 2012, 06:22:27 PM
GRC? Hmm. Usually we have been using GRP to represent GRouPcoin.

Would you use BBQ, BBC, or BQC for barbeque coin if you had to fit it into three letters?

-MarkM-
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500
Its as easy as 0, 1, 1, 2, 3
December 03, 2012, 06:20:14 PM
K1773R's Massive Multichain Abe

Abe: http://darkgamex.ch:2751/

Following Chains can be "browsed":
  • DVC
  • NMC
  • IXC
  • I0C
  • GRC
  • CLC

Problems:
  • BTC cant be imported due to a bug, PPC not yet (patches), LTC maybe if someone wants it.

Future plans:
  • Support every chain possible.

To support anonymity, all logfiles are automaticly safely deleted with shred every hour.

http://darkgamex.ch:2751/tx/0421151b4287b274d0150f723f9f0a9fa0c342b7d25ae0354008b129919eace9#o1

I was successfully able to track a transaction that I processed on the windows version of the devcoin qt.
legendary
Activity: 1792
Merit: 1008
/dev/null
December 03, 2012, 06:13:47 PM
K1773R's Massive Multichain Abe

Abe: http://darkgamex.ch:2751/

Following Chains can be "browsed":
  • DVC
  • NMC
  • IXC
  • I0C
  • GRC
  • CLC

Problems:
  • BTC cant be imported due to a bug, PPC not yet (patches), LTC maybe if someone wants it.

Future plans:
  • Support every chain possible.

To support anonymity, all logfiles are automaticly safely deleted with shred every hour.
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December 03, 2012, 02:33:43 PM
Thanks. I actually read this stuff on devtome.com before asking question, I just wanted to clarify whether those are current rules.

Thanks for reading before asking a question. I wish everyone did that Smiley

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Then I guess "colored bitcoins" project qualifies since it is essentially a Bitcoin client with extra features which would allow users to issue their own private currencies/stocks/bonds/whatever and trade them on p2p exchange, all on top of Bitcoin protocol.

Since it is bitcoin related, it would go on the bitcoin share list rather than the devcoin share list. However, it is not part of the standard bitcoin client so you are not considered a bitcoin developer.

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There are no users yet, however, since software isn't finished yet. However a lot of people are interested.

So... Does it qualify as is, or should we wait until people start using it, or...?

It does not qualify as is, because no one is using it.

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In any case, developers only get one ongoing share for development, if someone wants to earn a lot of devcoins, the way to do so is by writing for devtome.

OK, I understand why you're doing this, but you should note that people might see it as unfair. A trivial app might require at least 40 hours of development time, but one could write like 40 articles in 40 hours, no?

So developers are at huge disadvantage compared to writers.

So far the articles have been of good quality, no one has written wordy drivel. I write a lot, and it takes me about 9 hours to write a thousand words. In theory it's easy to write, in practice right now we only have three active writers.

If developers want more money, all they have to do is write about their project on devtome. Users always ask for more documentation, tutorials, etc.. If the developers give it to them on devtome, they will get more money and the users will make better use of the software.

Since there is interest in colored bitcoins, you could write about it on devtome and get devcoins that way.

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Also you didn't mention shares people get for DVC-related development, like for DVC software
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The devcoin developers, Mark and I, get on the bitcoin share list as devcoin developers. Gweedo gets on the bitcoin share list as a devtome developer.

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projects which generate DVC revenue and so on. What's the policy about such projects? Is Devtome the only for-profit project allowed to exist or it's just that there are no other proposals?

It's just that there are no other proposals that we can afford now. Setting up devtome took a lot of work and devcoins. If the capitalization rises, we'll be able to make other for-profit projects.
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December 03, 2012, 02:20:56 PM
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No matter how hard you try to hide the truth, it can't be hidden - at least not from me and, obviously, most other miners.

Boy get alive, your truth vision seems to be quite blurry, i wouldnt shout that loud, rather become more moderate, this is not the american black or white thing. Only cause it works different you throw standart phrases like comunism etc. in to this thread, i hardly doubt that you even have a clou what comunism is.

Devcoin works with democratic principles, but you just show with your bla that you simply dont understand what direct democracy is or how devcoin works.

Stop to taunt ppl now! And please never minine for devcoins, rucoin would fit mutch bether for you.




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