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Quote from: isaac_clarke22 on June 04, 2020, 04:24:01 AM

Well we can't avoid that kind of mindset.
Some devs might think of bounty hunters as some hungry people to feed because they didn't even invest any single quarter into their project aside from time that's why bounty hunters are the ones being blamed commonly in the first place unlike investors of the project itself.

But that kind of dismissive attitude is what it is damaging those projects, even if bounty hunters did not invested any money into the project they are investing their time and their efforts and if it wasn't for them and all the attention that they bring to the project most people will never hear of those new coins, so they are fundamental for the success of the project and yet as soon as the price of the coin begins to go down the first thing the developers do is to blame them, when they know very well they do not have the coins necessary to influence the price of their project as much as they claim.

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Scammer devs are usually people who created a project out of nothing and they think that everyone should follow their train of thought about the token and everything will be fine. This is not a dictatorship and you are ruining all of decentralization process that bitcoin first created. If you create a token and think that there is a way how it could be awesome in the future but nobody listens to you, that is still your fault.

You have to consider every single possibility when creating a token, including and specially people not caring about what you think should be done. People will do whatever they can to make a profit, including destroying a coin as well because they do not care about your coin at all, they care about how much profit they could make from your token and that's it.

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A scammer devs is good on blaming anyone, most particularly the bounty hunter, but they didn't realize when they blame the bounty hunters, it's the same as blaming themselves as they are the one who hire the bounty hunter to promote the project. 1% of the supply is very small if all the supply are sold, but if not, it will create a significant change on the price if it will be dump by the bounty hunters especially if investors have no interest on buying it.

As per personal experience, I have a participated in some bounty campaign in the past and although I like to see but I prefer not to dump it as I don't like to get a dust from my hard work promoting the project, I just hope that someday, the bull run will come back so even poor altcoins now might at least reach its ICO or IEO price.

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Quote from: Greatchu on June 06, 2020, 05:10:43 AM

Sometimes I really want to blame bounty hunters because we have too many bounty hunters who don't do research, sometimes research can let anyone down but not doing research at all will make you promote useless projects, with this point of mine we have bounty hunters to blame

You just waste your time to blame those who are never trying to do any research before trying to promote the project. It's better to keep the focus on your task dude and I guess they will deal with what they deserved caused by they were not DYOR.

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Quote from: Ken_terrance on June 03, 2020, 02:32:27 AM

It seems developers don't know what they are doing, many of them that put blames on bounty hunters for price dump , they must be high on drugs or something, this is just simple arithmetic

A devs create a coin with 100 million supply

He decide to do IEO with 50 million coins of the supply

He decide to do IEO at the price of 0.1$

But to attract investors he introduce a discount of 0.05$

He was lucky to see many investors investing in the project even when he chooses not so good exchange

And price surge over 3.5$

Please tell me, how will investors hold the coins when they see gains that can take them years of holding to achieve???

Developers you are the main problem affecting your coins and tokens, bounty hunters only share up to 1% of your max supply, have some respect

Can you clarify which coin is this? If all of the things you said are true then really, how could dev and his team put the blame of 1% share of circulating supply? Also, the surge over 3.5$ kinda suspicious for IEO project after it going for sale like that. Maybe he wants to blame the bounty hunters because they sold during dev's pump and dump scheme to lure in buyers lol?

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Sometimes I really want to blame bounty hunters because we have too many bounty hunters who don't do research, sometimes research can let anyone down but not doing research at all will make you promote useless projects, with this point of mine we have bounty hunters to blame

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Investors and team are responsible for token dumps on exchanges, bad developers have no one to put the blame on than bounty hunters because that's the easiest escape, making bounty hunters look like the criminals and yet they seek for hunters to help them promote their useless tokens

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Quote from: Ken_terrance on June 03, 2020, 02:32:27 AM

Developers you are the main problem affecting your coins and tokens, bounty hunters only share up to 1% of your max supply, have some respect

I know the project you are referring to, this is very sad but that is the reality of the bounty participants' stories. This will always be repeated, only a few legit and solid projects will respect the bounty participants.

Not just a project, it's most of the projects out there. They give a lot of discounts during pre sales and allocate maybe 2% of supply, then they blame bounty hunters. I think they should better promote their project with BTC or ETH payment and observe the difference.

just think about how you would make the payment if you created your project? I think that you would not pay in BTC or ETH because you would spend this money on the development of the project and on the salary of your team

The team has been getting a huge money and isn't something wrong for the team to pay use the native coin. When the price will remain stable and you should remember the team is also getting a huge premined coins too.

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Quote from: Ken_terrance on June 03, 2020, 02:32:27 AM

It seems developers don't know what they are doing, many of them that put blames on bounty hunters for price dump , they must be high on drugs or something, this is just simple arithmetic

A devs create a coin with 100 million supply

He decide to do IEO with 50 million coins of the supply

He decide to do IEO at the price of 0.1$

But to attract investors he introduce a discount of 0.05$

He was lucky to see many investors investing in the project even when he chooses not so good exchange

And price surge over 3.5$

Please tell me, how will investors hold the coins when they see gains that can take them years of holding to achieve???

Developers you are the main problem affecting your coins and tokens, bounty hunters only share up to 1% of your max supply, have some respect

This whole industry really need to change how hunters are being perceived because just like you explain in this topic, hunters aren't really responsible for dump of token price. A lot of factors contributes to token price reduction but the major reason is that investors and team often seems to dump their tokens for easy profit and end up pushing blames to otheres

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Quote from: Ken_terrance on June 03, 2020, 02:32:27 AM

It seems developers don't know what they are doing, many of them that put blames on bounty hunters for price dump , they must be high on drugs or something, this is just simple arithmetic

A devs create a coin with 100 million supply

He decide to do IEO with 50 million coins of the supply

He decide to do IEO at the price of 0.1$

But to attract investors he introduce a discount of 0.05$

He was lucky to see many investors investing in the project even when he chooses not so good exchange

And price surge over 3.5$

Please tell me, how will investors hold the coins when they see gains that can take them years of holding to achieve???

Developers you are the main problem affecting your coins and tokens, bounty hunters only share up to 1% of your max supply, have some respect

I agreed with what you said because most of coin/token developer as usually after making money and ignore the fact that the need people who are excellent in the field of finance and wealth management in other to manage properly the through the initial offering and the maintain the price of their project when listed on an exchange.
In addition to, the second mistake new project dev does is not listing their project on good liquidity exchange.

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Quote from: Ken_terrance on June 03, 2020, 02:32:27 AM

It seems developers don't know what they are doing, many of them that put blames on bounty hunters for price dump , they must be high on drugs or something, this is just simple arithmetic

A devs create a coin with 100 million supply

He decide to do IEO with 50 million coins of the supply

He decide to do IEO at the price of 0.1$

But to attract investors he introduce a discount of 0.05$

He was lucky to see many investors investing in the project even when he chooses not so good exchange

And price surge over 3.5$

Please tell me, how will investors hold the coins when they see gains that can take them years of holding to achieve???

Developers you are the main problem affecting your coins and tokens, bounty hunters only share up to 1% of your max supply, have some respect

I believe that price movements, pumps and dumps depend of various complex factors and we cannot blame a single person or set of persons or particular community in case of price crash, actually when a coin lists on an exchange it is a free market and rule of supply and demand applies so if there are no or low number of buyers or low demand price is bound to drop and market will calculate and display the price of the coin according to buy sell balance.

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Quote from: Krislaw on June 05, 2020, 05:52:17 PM

Quote from: Onika84 on June 03, 2020, 12:38:52 PM

Quote from: Ken_terrance on June 03, 2020, 02:32:27 AM

Developers you are the main problem affecting your coins and tokens, bounty hunters only share up to 1% of your max supply, have some respect

I know the project you are referring to, this is very sad but that is the reality of the bounty participants' stories. This will always be repeated, only a few legit and solid projects will respect the bounty participants.

Not just a project, it's most of the projects out there. They give a lot of discounts during pre sales and allocate maybe 2% of supply, then they blame bounty hunters. I think they should better promote their project with BTC or ETH payment and observe the difference.

just think about how you would make the payment if you created your project? I think that you would not pay in BTC or ETH because you would spend this money on the development of the project and on the salary of your team

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Quote from: Onika84 on June 03, 2020, 12:38:52 PM

Quote from: Ken_terrance on June 03, 2020, 02:32:27 AM

Developers you are the main problem affecting your coins and tokens, bounty hunters only share up to 1% of your max supply, have some respect

I know the project you are referring to, this is very sad but that is the reality of the bounty participants' stories. This will always be repeated, only a few legit and solid projects will respect the bounty participants.

Not just a project, it's most of the projects out there. They give a lot of discounts during pre sales and allocate maybe 2% of supply, then they blame bounty hunters. I think they should better promote their project with BTC or ETH payment and observe the difference.

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Quote from: skeleto88 on June 05, 2020, 09:46:29 AM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 04, 2020, 03:37:24 PM

I have been saying this for quite sometime. The developers and the promoters need to show respect for bounty hunters. For just 0.5% or 1% of the total pool, the bounty hunters are doing the hard work to promote these projects. And if the project becomes a success, then the bounty hunter may receive $10 or $20 worth of tokens, while the promoters may each receive tokens worth millions of USD.

Or maybe they are only relying to bounty hunters to promote their projects which certainly not gonna work alone. They must make their own promotions in order to attract or why investors should consider investing in the project or else it would turn into a flop and the bounty hunter will take all the blame.

It seems that the calculation transparency makes it unreliable with so many naughty ones to make profits and give the bounty to the smallest part of the bounty hunter. cooperation is really needed and openness in managing the results obtained, but this never happened and all can be ascertained bounty hunter who remain disadvantaged. indeed a small portion plus fraud made so that what is obtained has no value anymore.

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Quote from: skeleto88 on June 05, 2020, 09:46:29 AM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 04, 2020, 03:37:24 PM

I have been saying this for quite sometime. The developers and the promoters need to show respect for bounty hunters. For just 0.5% or 1% of the total pool, the bounty hunters are doing the hard work to promote these projects. And if the project becomes a success, then the bounty hunter may receive $10 or $20 worth of tokens, while the promoters may each receive tokens worth millions of USD.

Or maybe they are only relying to bounty hunters to promote their projects which certainly not gonna work alone. They must make their own promotions in order to attract or why investors should consider investing in the project or else it would turn into a flop and the bounty hunter will take all the blame.

I don't think promotion with Bounty Hunter will be effective. marketing using other methods may be more effective, of course, must be adjusted to the market of the product to be released. until now I think bounty hunters will be very helpful in increasing daily trading volume when entering the market. large community with the small value I think it would be good to increase the daily trading of a new product in the market.

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Quote from: Ken_terrance on June 03, 2020, 02:32:27 AM

It seems developers don't know what they are doing, many of them that put blames on bounty hunters for price dump , they must be high on drugs or something, this is just simple arithmetic

A devs create a coin with 100 million supply

He decide to do IEO with 50 million coins of the supply

He decide to do IEO at the price of 0.1$

But to attract investors he introduce a discount of 0.05$

He was lucky to see many investors investing in the project even when he chooses not so good exchange

And price surge over 3.5$

Please tell me, how will investors hold the coins when they see gains that can take them years of holding to achieve???

Developers you are the main problem affecting your coins and tokens, bounty hunters only share up to 1% of your max supply, have some respect

It is hard to influence devs on this crypto currency space.
And likewise, you cannot force decisions upon them.

This is why we have a choice to make our researches and invest in tokens we believe are worth while and worthy to invest.

You don't need to drool about a project, figure out if it works or move on

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on June 04, 2020, 03:37:24 PM

I have been saying this for quite sometime. The developers and the promoters need to show respect for bounty hunters. For just 0.5% or 1% of the total pool, the bounty hunters are doing the hard work to promote these projects. And if the project becomes a success, then the bounty hunter may receive $10 or $20 worth of tokens, while the promoters may each receive tokens worth millions of USD.

Or maybe they are only relying to bounty hunters to promote their projects which certainly not gonna work alone. They must make their own promotions in order to attract or why investors should consider investing in the project or else it would turn into a flop and the bounty hunter will take all the blame.

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Quote from: Ken_terrance on June 03, 2020, 02:32:27 AM

It seems developers don't know what they are doing, many of them that put blames on bounty hunters for price dump , they must be high on drugs or something, this is just simple arithmetic

A devs create a coin with 100 million supply

He decide to do IEO with 50 million coins of the supply

He decide to do IEO at the price of 0.1$

But to attract investors he introduce a discount of 0.05$

He was lucky to see many investors investing in the project even when he chooses not so good exchange

And price surge over 3.5$

Please tell me, how will investors hold the coins when they see gains that can take them years of holding to achieve???

Developers you are the main problem affecting your coins and tokens, bounty hunters only share up to 1% of your max supply, have some respect

I think that you are right and I think that they should always have respect for other and not put the blame into the bounty hunters and I think that they are the ones that is in fault and not those bounty hunters becsuse they are becoming greedy unlike those bounty hunters that is doing things in order for them to survive and sa earn money in cryptocurrencies and the devs are being disrespectful to them but bounty hunters are not doing anything because they are not that greedy unlike those devs and I think that they should open their eye to the reality of cryptocurrencies

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Thank you for this. The other day, l made a comment about transparency. You can't be mentioning millions when you know you didn't even raise 200k dollars. So it is with supply and so call private sell. Dev will hold back to a declare selling 50% at private sell.

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Quote from: Towerbreeze on June 04, 2020, 08:00:38 AM

Team are responsible for the value of their coin, if they give them away easily to attract investors the end result will be pretty bad, I expect many developers to have learned by now because we have so many examples of projects that took this unfavorable path in the past

They have gotten big amounts of money and that's their responsibility to create cooperation with big exchange site or provide a good development when all of the things will be synched and then it will bring a lot of demand that will build the liquidity because this is the main aim for any project. The hunters are not something that must be blamed by the dev.

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