Topic: Diablo Mining Company - page 41. (Read 96422 times)

so you're an ETF / fund now, not a mining company?

OBSI.1MHS is now the newest bond to be added to the bond trade chart.

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Yeah most industrial equipment that I have seen is rated with humidity tolerances between 5 and 90 percent, non-condensing. Servers are only a little tighter on those restrictions, but still far outside the normal human comfort range.

Actually, thats the funny thing. Computers can work in humidity that is too dry or too wet for us to be comfortable. There are these things called economizers that exist to pass filtered air into the building instead of running the air conditioner to do the same thing.

You can also have economizers for water cooled setups, and use cooling towers to cool the water over long term periods (the math here, from what I can tell, with a cooling tower + external pump efficiency of EER 14, cooling 3 gallons/minute 10 degrees lower is equivalent to 1 ton).

Getting too dry doesn't seem to be an issue in Maine, even in the winter.

We have now crossed the 5 ghash line. At this rate, we should be past 10 ghash before the end of July.

I've just added new stocks/bonds to the swap list: PIMP, BTCMC, SYNERGY, MOORE, and MERGEDMINING

Of course it needs to be in secure building it goes without saying.

Yes, and then I drive up in a flatbed truck and cart a multimillion dollar container off. Nothx.

That certainly looks interesting. You could just stick those on a concrete slab with 4 walls and not need any insulation or fans at all

You have to build them. No one is currently selling an all in one unit that handles this. This is expensive and requires knowhow, but see the above post about the self-water cooled enclosed racks that Liebert makes, which may be an equivalent solution.

If Im not mistaken you can also get refrigerated containers ?

Extortion is a federal crime and if I am not mistaken this deuchebag is in the US. Im sure the partyvan will be making a visit soonish 

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I love that guy.

It sounds like the plan is to use outside air for 8-9 months of the year.

This is ok, but keep in mind that you'll also need equipment to filter and condition that air (add or remove humidity depending on the season). 

I've been doing the open-windows-with-box-fans thing and you wouldn't believe how much dirt (and now pollen) come in.  In the winter we had more static than usual, and when it rains it comes in (didn't really snow here this winter).  This is fine at my office, but probably wouldn't suit your operation.

I know humidifiers rated to run 24x7 aren't cheap and require water service, which you might not have considered.

Well, I might have a connection at Emerson, but I'm pretty sure he doesn't touch the cost or financial stuff. He just might be able to get me the occasional free stuff. But I'll see if he can ballpark it or tell me who to ask.

So, not only did we cross 2000 shares sold today, we crossed the 4.5 ghash line.

Fuck yeah.

Something like that, but APC doesn't seem to offer a "heat chimney" type of solution (its the other half of cold aisle containment).

I want a partially closed loop solution. Cold aisle containment + heat chimney, and heavy use of economizers most of the time.

However, I think there might be another solution: http://www.emersonnetworkpower.com/en-US/Products/PrecisionCooling/HighDensityModularCooling/Water-Based/Pages/LiebertXDK-W.aspx

Its a water cooled enclosed rack. I know I'm not fond of water cooling in data centers, but the entire product family looks rather interesting. It basically means we can scale cooling per rack, and for customers other than mining customers it would manage cooling based on their load individually. They have a 25kW model that, effectively, I could put the entire mining company in two racks.

Like this? http://www.apc.com/site/Solutions/index.cfm/solutions/high-density-small-medium-data-center1/
Closed loop solution.

This is why I was planning for basically 4 racks of my own in the data center, and the racks won't be packed full.

And yes, I have more plans. The plan listed is just phase 1, and it must be completed before I consider anything else in full. I don't want to waste money by buying too small, and who the hell is going to build a tiny hut in the middle of nowhere with a single rack in it.

I don't need all $1m to start building the DC, I just need enough to keep it from financially collapsing. Depending on how BTC prices continue, we could be looking at building the solar farm first THEN the DC, I consider this an acceptable outcome.

I have been considering effectively building a container storage facility, however it just doesn't seem to be worth it yet, not enough hardware. Its easier to build, say, four walls of rebar reinforced concrete with extra sound proofing measures and fill it with a bunch of locked security racks and just renting out the excess space.

What I think is interesting about containers is, literally, people could just ship them in already loaded and I just have to park them in the facility. Small customers wouldn't, but the Amazons and Netflixes and whatnot would easily consider it. Although, at that point, I'd probably have to pull my corner of the Internet to me and thats pretty expensive.

Containers make it a lot easier to do airflow containment, but it requires a lot of custom tooling. For what we need now, its just too much. However, a bunch of racks doing hot aisle/cold aisle with cold aisle containment and high airflow in the hot aisle would do just as well.

Several manufacturers have complete containment rack solutions that prevent hot air circulation in the rack and forces it out into the hot aisle, so for now, I think this is what I'm going to pursue.

Edit: Actually, I wanna ask our resident experts on something. Is there a complete solution to do both ducted hot air and cold aisle containment that is worth looking at? I know they exist and a lot of the high density DCs are starting to use them.

Yeah hes that guy.