Topic: Dice game strategy? - page 80. (Read 97246 times)

Quote from: Omikifuse on October 12, 2015, 03:02:03 PM

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There are professional blackjack players that would also beg to differ.

This doesn't work long-term, because you're banned long before you make a lot of profit.

I am quite sure counting cards is illegal, so even if you manage to count them you probably won't make a profit, just like Ranlo says here. I could be wrong but I think it is illegal at most casinos.

You're right; it is. It's seen as theft/exploitation.

I thought this was not illegal? Isn't it just frowned upon? How do they actually know you are counting cards as well? Seems rather odd that they would just come up to you and say, hey you have been counting cards we need you arrested?

It's all just patterns, and it's easily deciphered. It's not illegal like jail time, but it's illegal to the casino.

Then I can't use my memory in the game?

How will they discover me, do they have mind reading devices that know when some people is memorizing the cards and when they are not?

You've never been to a casino, have you?

Yes, I never have been in a real life casino.

It is more or less unecessary when you know Bitcoin

There are pit bosses at each game watching players. Each table has multiple cameras that have various types of recognition (they can detect things like stress, certain facial features, etc.). And last but not least, it's obvious if you're winning most of the time because, well, you're winning most of the time. It's not hard to figure out.

So if you win most of the time they might think you are cheating? I know several people who play Blackjack at a casino here and I have seen them walk away up 2,000 dollars in less than 2 hours. They have gone back multiple times I know, and have won multiple times. Any reason why they are not getting into trouble?

Continuous wins are watched with eagle eyes in every Casino.

They probably will use them as market to attract more players that will lose much more than the lucky one won.

Like: "see this dude that turned 10 btc into hundreads, come, you can be the next.". I think everyone already received an email like this from some casino

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Quote from: jpouza on October 15, 2015, 08:56:26 AM

Continuous wins are watched with eagle eyes in every Casino.

Really. Actually I do not this one. But I think it is normal. There can be really huge mount money on the table. Sometimes million dollars can bet for the winning.

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Quote from: jpouza on October 15, 2015, 08:56:26 AM

Continuous wins are watched with eagle eyes in every Casino.

That is very right. Just like the movie oceans 13 where there is a monitor where they will see if you are a real winner. Your ecstatic face, excitement, heartbeat, eye dilation etc etc... That's the way they control the winners.

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Quote from: leex1528 on October 12, 2015, 03:24:10 PM

Quote from: Omikifuse on October 12, 2015, 03:02:03 PM

Quote from: Omikifuse on October 12, 2015, 02:59:14 PM

Quote from: leex1528 on October 12, 2015, 02:53:36 PM

Quote from: leex1528 on October 12, 2015, 09:19:44 AM

There are professional blackjack players that would also beg to differ.

This doesn't work long-term, because you're banned long before you make a lot of profit.

I am quite sure counting cards is illegal, so even if you manage to count them you probably won't make a profit, just like Ranlo says here. I could be wrong but I think it is illegal at most casinos.

You're right; it is. It's seen as theft/exploitation.

I thought this was not illegal? Isn't it just frowned upon? How do they actually know you are counting cards as well? Seems rather odd that they would just come up to you and say, hey you have been counting cards we need you arrested?

It's all just patterns, and it's easily deciphered. It's not illegal like jail time, but it's illegal to the casino.

Then I can't use my memory in the game?

How will they discover me, do they have mind reading devices that know when some people is memorizing the cards and when they are not?

You've never been to a casino, have you?

Yes, I never have been in a real life casino.

It is more or less unecessary when you know Bitcoin

There are pit bosses at each game watching players. Each table has multiple cameras that have various types of recognition (they can detect things like stress, certain facial features, etc.). And last but not least, it's obvious if you're winning most of the time because, well, you're winning most of the time. It's not hard to figure out.

So if you win most of the time they might think you are cheating? I know several people who play Blackjack at a casino here and I have seen them walk away up 2,000 dollars in less than 2 hours. They have gone back multiple times I know, and have won multiple times. Any reason why they are not getting into trouble?

Continuous wins are watched with eagle eyes in every Casino.

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Quote from: leex1528 on October 12, 2015, 03:36:11 PM

Well usually he goes on streaks, so he will go about 3-4 times a month and probably profit around 6,000 for the month. Usually does this for about 3-4 months then takes a break. He won't tell me how he wins all the time but I promise you he wins more than he loses.

It likely isn't from counting -- just playing odds. Most casinos use 6 decks now, and reshuffle at the 25% mark. You would have to sit there for many hours just to get an edge to show up, and it'd be too obvious if you sit there watching for hours until there's an uneven amount of high/low cards, then play for a few hands, and sit out for a few more hours.

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Quote from: ranlo on October 12, 2015, 03:27:40 PM

Quote from: leex1528 on October 12, 2015, 03:24:10 PM

Quote from: Omikifuse on October 12, 2015, 03:02:03 PM

Quote from: Omikifuse on October 12, 2015, 02:59:14 PM

Quote from: leex1528 on October 12, 2015, 02:53:36 PM

Quote from: leex1528 on October 12, 2015, 09:19:44 AM

There are professional blackjack players that would also beg to differ.

This doesn't work long-term, because you're banned long before you make a lot of profit.

I am quite sure counting cards is illegal, so even if you manage to count them you probably won't make a profit, just like Ranlo says here. I could be wrong but I think it is illegal at most casinos.

You're right; it is. It's seen as theft/exploitation.

I thought this was not illegal? Isn't it just frowned upon? How do they actually know you are counting cards as well? Seems rather odd that they would just come up to you and say, hey you have been counting cards we need you arrested?

It's all just patterns, and it's easily deciphered. It's not illegal like jail time, but it's illegal to the casino.

Then I can't use my memory in the game?

How will they discover me, do they have mind reading devices that know when some people is memorizing the cards and when they are not?

You've never been to a casino, have you?

Yes, I never have been in a real life casino.

It is more or less unecessary when you know Bitcoin

There are pit bosses at each game watching players. Each table has multiple cameras that have various types of recognition (they can detect things like stress, certain facial features, etc.). And last but not least, it's obvious if you're winning most of the time because, well, you're winning most of the time. It's not hard to figure out.

So if you win most of the time they might think you are cheating? I know several people who play Blackjack at a casino here and I have seen them walk away up 2,000 dollars in less than 2 hours. They have gone back multiple times I know, and have won multiple times. Any reason why they are not getting into trouble?

"Multiple times." How many times is multiple? They don't care if you win here and there. They care if you're taking $10k+ a day every day from various casinos. You're confusing luck with exploitation.

Well usually he goes on streaks, so he will go about 3-4 times a month and probably profit around 6,000 for the month. Usually does this for about 3-4 months then takes a break. He won't tell me how he wins all the time but I promise you he wins more than he loses.

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Quote from: leex1528 on October 12, 2015, 03:24:10 PM

Quote from: Omikifuse on October 12, 2015, 03:02:03 PM

Quote from: Omikifuse on October 12, 2015, 02:59:14 PM

Quote from: leex1528 on October 12, 2015, 02:53:36 PM

Quote from: leex1528 on October 12, 2015, 09:19:44 AM

There are professional blackjack players that would also beg to differ.

This doesn't work long-term, because you're banned long before you make a lot of profit.

I am quite sure counting cards is illegal, so even if you manage to count them you probably won't make a profit, just like Ranlo says here. I could be wrong but I think it is illegal at most casinos.

You're right; it is. It's seen as theft/exploitation.

I thought this was not illegal? Isn't it just frowned upon? How do they actually know you are counting cards as well? Seems rather odd that they would just come up to you and say, hey you have been counting cards we need you arrested?

It's all just patterns, and it's easily deciphered. It's not illegal like jail time, but it's illegal to the casino.

Then I can't use my memory in the game?

How will they discover me, do they have mind reading devices that know when some people is memorizing the cards and when they are not?

You've never been to a casino, have you?

Yes, I never have been in a real life casino.

It is more or less unecessary when you know Bitcoin

There are pit bosses at each game watching players. Each table has multiple cameras that have various types of recognition (they can detect things like stress, certain facial features, etc.). And last but not least, it's obvious if you're winning most of the time because, well, you're winning most of the time. It's not hard to figure out.

So if you win most of the time they might think you are cheating? I know several people who play Blackjack at a casino here and I have seen them walk away up 2,000 dollars in less than 2 hours. They have gone back multiple times I know, and have won multiple times. Any reason why they are not getting into trouble?

"Multiple times." How many times is multiple? They don't care if you win here and there. They care if you're taking $10k+ a day every day from various casinos. You're confusing luck with exploitation.

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Quote from: leex1528 on October 12, 2015, 03:24:10 PM

Quote from: Omikifuse on October 12, 2015, 03:02:03 PM

Quote from: Omikifuse on October 12, 2015, 02:59:14 PM

Quote from: leex1528 on October 12, 2015, 02:53:36 PM

Quote from: leex1528 on October 12, 2015, 09:19:44 AM

There are professional blackjack players that would also beg to differ.

This doesn't work long-term, because you're banned long before you make a lot of profit.

I am quite sure counting cards is illegal, so even if you manage to count them you probably won't make a profit, just like Ranlo says here. I could be wrong but I think it is illegal at most casinos.

You're right; it is. It's seen as theft/exploitation.

I thought this was not illegal? Isn't it just frowned upon? How do they actually know you are counting cards as well? Seems rather odd that they would just come up to you and say, hey you have been counting cards we need you arrested?

It's all just patterns, and it's easily deciphered. It's not illegal like jail time, but it's illegal to the casino.

Then I can't use my memory in the game?

How will they discover me, do they have mind reading devices that know when some people is memorizing the cards and when they are not?

You've never been to a casino, have you?

Yes, I never have been in a real life casino.

It is more or less unecessary when you know Bitcoin

There are pit bosses at each game watching players. Each table has multiple cameras that have various types of recognition (they can detect things like stress, certain facial features, etc.). And last but not least, it's obvious if you're winning most of the time because, well, you're winning most of the time. It's not hard to figure out.

So if you win most of the time they might think you are cheating? I know several people who play Blackjack at a casino here and I have seen them walk away up 2,000 dollars in less than 2 hours. They have gone back multiple times I know, and have won multiple times. Any reason why they are not getting into trouble?

I agree.

If they ban people when they have a winning streak, I think no one will want to play in the casino. Also card counting is not miraculous, you'll get a small +EV but nothing that will looks like you are cheating.

I think the problem is with people that try to use hidden computers or to comunicate with other people with hidden earphones.

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Quote from: Omikifuse on October 12, 2015, 03:02:03 PM

Quote from: Omikifuse on October 12, 2015, 02:59:14 PM

Quote from: leex1528 on October 12, 2015, 02:53:36 PM

Quote from: leex1528 on October 12, 2015, 09:19:44 AM

There are professional blackjack players that would also beg to differ.

This doesn't work long-term, because you're banned long before you make a lot of profit.

I am quite sure counting cards is illegal, so even if you manage to count them you probably won't make a profit, just like Ranlo says here. I could be wrong but I think it is illegal at most casinos.

You're right; it is. It's seen as theft/exploitation.

I thought this was not illegal? Isn't it just frowned upon? How do they actually know you are counting cards as well? Seems rather odd that they would just come up to you and say, hey you have been counting cards we need you arrested?

It's all just patterns, and it's easily deciphered. It's not illegal like jail time, but it's illegal to the casino.

Then I can't use my memory in the game?

How will they discover me, do they have mind reading devices that know when some people is memorizing the cards and when they are not?

You've never been to a casino, have you?

Yes, I never have been in a real life casino.

It is more or less unecessary when you know Bitcoin

There are pit bosses at each game watching players. Each table has multiple cameras that have various types of recognition (they can detect things like stress, certain facial features, etc.). And last but not least, it's obvious if you're winning most of the time because, well, you're winning most of the time. It's not hard to figure out.

So if you win most of the time they might think you are cheating? I know several people who play Blackjack at a casino here and I have seen them walk away up 2,000 dollars in less than 2 hours. They have gone back multiple times I know, and have won multiple times. Any reason why they are not getting into trouble?

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Quote from: Omikifuse on October 12, 2015, 03:02:03 PM

Quote from: Omikifuse on October 12, 2015, 02:59:14 PM

Quote from: leex1528 on October 12, 2015, 02:53:36 PM

Quote from: leex1528 on October 12, 2015, 09:19:44 AM

There are professional blackjack players that would also beg to differ.

This doesn't work long-term, because you're banned long before you make a lot of profit.

I am quite sure counting cards is illegal, so even if you manage to count them you probably won't make a profit, just like Ranlo says here. I could be wrong but I think it is illegal at most casinos.

You're right; it is. It's seen as theft/exploitation.

I thought this was not illegal? Isn't it just frowned upon? How do they actually know you are counting cards as well? Seems rather odd that they would just come up to you and say, hey you have been counting cards we need you arrested?

It's all just patterns, and it's easily deciphered. It's not illegal like jail time, but it's illegal to the casino.

Then I can't use my memory in the game?

How will they discover me, do they have mind reading devices that know when some people is memorizing the cards and when they are not?

You've never been to a casino, have you?

Yes, I never have been in a real life casino.

It is more or less unecessary when you know Bitcoin

There are pit bosses at each game watching players. Each table has multiple cameras that have various types of recognition (they can detect things like stress, certain facial features, etc.). And last but not least, it's obvious if you're winning most of the time because, well, you're winning most of the time. It's not hard to figure out.

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Quote from: Omikifuse on October 12, 2015, 02:59:14 PM

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