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Quote from: leex1528 on October 12, 2015, 09:19:44 AM

There are professional blackjack players that would also beg to differ.

This doesn't work long-term, because you're banned long before you make a lot of profit.

I am quite sure counting cards is illegal, so even if you manage to count them you probably won't make a profit, just like Ranlo says here. I could be wrong but I think it is illegal at most casinos.

You're right; it is. It's seen as theft/exploitation.

I thought this was not illegal? Isn't it just frowned upon? How do they actually know you are counting cards as well? Seems rather odd that they would just come up to you and say, hey you have been counting cards we need you arrested?

It's all just patterns, and it's easily deciphered. It's not illegal like jail time, but it's illegal to the casino.

Then I can't use my memory in the game?

How will they discover me, do they have mind reading devices that know when some people is memorizing the cards and when they are not?

You've never been to a casino, have you?

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Quote from: ranlo on October 12, 2015, 02:57:23 PM

Quote from: leex1528 on October 12, 2015, 02:53:36 PM

Quote from: leex1528 on October 12, 2015, 09:19:44 AM

There are professional blackjack players that would also beg to differ.

This doesn't work long-term, because you're banned long before you make a lot of profit.

I am quite sure counting cards is illegal, so even if you manage to count them you probably won't make a profit, just like Ranlo says here. I could be wrong but I think it is illegal at most casinos.

You're right; it is. It's seen as theft/exploitation.

I thought this was not illegal? Isn't it just frowned upon? How do they actually know you are counting cards as well? Seems rather odd that they would just come up to you and say, hey you have been counting cards we need you arrested?

It's all just patterns, and it's easily deciphered. It's not illegal like jail time, but it's illegal to the casino.

Then I can't use my memory in the game?

How will they discover me, do they have mind reading devices that know when some people is memorizing the cards and when they are not?

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Quote from: leex1528 on October 12, 2015, 02:53:36 PM

Quote from: leex1528 on October 12, 2015, 09:19:44 AM

There are professional blackjack players that would also beg to differ.

This doesn't work long-term, because you're banned long before you make a lot of profit.

I am quite sure counting cards is illegal, so even if you manage to count them you probably won't make a profit, just like Ranlo says here. I could be wrong but I think it is illegal at most casinos.

You're right; it is. It's seen as theft/exploitation.

I thought this was not illegal? Isn't it just frowned upon? How do they actually know you are counting cards as well? Seems rather odd that they would just come up to you and say, hey you have been counting cards we need you arrested?

It's all just patterns, and it's easily deciphered. It's not illegal like jail time, but it's illegal to the casino.

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Quote from: leex1528 on October 12, 2015, 09:19:44 AM

There are professional blackjack players that would also beg to differ.

This doesn't work long-term, because you're banned long before you make a lot of profit.

I am quite sure counting cards is illegal, so even if you manage to count them you probably won't make a profit, just like Ranlo says here. I could be wrong but I think it is illegal at most casinos.

You're right; it is. It's seen as theft/exploitation.

I thought this was not illegal? Isn't it just frowned upon? How do they actually know you are counting cards as well? Seems rather odd that they would just come up to you and say, hey you have been counting cards we need you arrested?

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Quote from: leex1528 on October 12, 2015, 09:19:44 AM

There are professional blackjack players that would also beg to differ.

This doesn't work long-term, because you're banned long before you make a lot of profit.

I am quite sure counting cards is illegal, so even if you manage to count them you probably won't make a profit, just like Ranlo says here. I could be wrong but I think it is illegal at most casinos.

You're right; it is. It's seen as theft/exploitation.

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Quote from: leex1528 on October 12, 2015, 09:19:44 AM

There are professional blackjack players that would also beg to differ.

This doesn't work long-term, because you're banned long before you make a lot of profit.

I am quite sure counting cards is illegal, so even if you manage to count them you probably won't make a profit, just like Ranlo says here. I could be wrong but I think it is illegal at most casinos.

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it will always be a gamble. just be intelligent in making decision. if you feel that you are winning get out. then you can come back the next day. just dont lose too much

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Quote from: leex1528 on October 12, 2015, 09:19:44 AM

There are professional blackjack players that would also beg to differ.

This doesn't work long-term, because you're banned long before you make a lot of profit.

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I disagree that people can't win in the long run. There are professional blackjack players that would also beg to differ. Now counting cards is tough and only a few casinos are able to do it, but it is still possible to beat the house edge and blackjack by counting cards.

As far as dice strategy goes, there are none. You can't have a strategy for coin flipping and expect to win.

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Quote from: shanem on October 12, 2015, 08:20:47 AM

Quote from: YuginKadoya on October 12, 2015, 07:54:34 AM

ABOUT THE HOUSE EDGE
The House Edge is a term used to describe the mathematical advantage that the gambling game, and therefore the commercial gambling venue, has over you as you play over time. This advantage results in an assured percentage return to the venue over time, and for you an assured percentage loss of what you bet.

It’s important that people don’t think that they can win, because you can’t win in gambling. You can win for a little while but you can’t win in the long run.

There is no way to overcome the house edge unless you invest in the casino instead of gambling.
However, people still gamble as it is additive.

Yup! most gamblers are addicted Because Gambling can stimulate the brain's reward system much like drugs such as alcohol can, leading to addiction.

that is why never take the long run because of house edge that can take sum little by little that you will not notice!

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Quote from: WEBcreator on October 12, 2015, 05:29:46 AM

Quote from: harizen on October 12, 2015, 03:15:53 AM

Just play with your own strategy and hope that luck will side to you in every roll. Cashout wisely so you can make profit. Strategy somehow can give you a thrilling experience eventhough overall we all know that no one wins in a long term of playing dice.

But there are no really strategy on dice game. the possible strategy that you can make is only martingale with some balance to cover your loss. No one wins in a long term because if people have a huge bankroll they will hit big and never go for some strategy. This strategy is just for some low balance not suitable for huge balance

yeah. even if you have big bankroll it is better to bet big amounts and just try out your chance of winning instead of starting small and using strategies like martingale.

because even if you have a huge bankroll and use something like martingale, since the chance of winning is never 100% then this means there is a possibility of losing. in the end you have won tiny bets with tiny profits and a losing streak cause a big loss which leads to losing all those profit plus more.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on October 12, 2015, 07:54:34 AM

ABOUT THE HOUSE EDGE
The House Edge is a term used to describe the mathematical advantage that the gambling game, and therefore the commercial gambling venue, has over you as you play over time. This advantage results in an assured percentage return to the venue over time, and for you an assured percentage loss of what you bet.

It’s important that people don’t think that they can win, because you can’t win in gambling. You can win for a little while but you can’t win in the long run.

There is no way to overcome the house edge unless you invest in the casino instead of gambling.
However, people still gamble as it is additive.

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ABOUT THE HOUSE EDGE
The House Edge is a term used to describe the mathematical advantage that the gambling game, and therefore the commercial gambling venue, has over you as you play over time. This advantage results in an assured percentage return to the venue over time, and for you an assured percentage loss of what you bet.

It’s important that people don’t think that they can win, because you can’t win in gambling. You can win for a little while but you can’t win in the long run.

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Quote from: Heutenamos on October 12, 2015, 05:28:02 AM

Quote from: harizen on October 12, 2015, 03:34:38 AM

Quote from: rizkyhiw on October 12, 2015, 03:16:37 AM

Quote from: Omikifuse on October 12, 2015, 02:12:27 AM

No strategy will change the house edge, so it doesn't matter.

Please show me one that changes the edge, if you know one

Even if a casino had a 0% house edge, you'd still be on the losing end due to maximum bets allowed. So this really doesn't matter.

Nothing can do to change the house. But at least with some strategy like bet on 70% once a day, hit and win and withdraw it, come back again to another site bet again on 70% chance to win and repeat it to many dice sites in a day. it can help bring our lucky come out.

Majority of all dice players likes that strategy but unfortunately the winds are turning them away.

A player will play in a dice game and he doesn't want to play for a long run so he decided that he will stop playing for that day if he can make a profit for at least 10%. Unfortunately it doesn't happen so what he will do next? Just play play play to make his target. He is now playing for a long run here and what's next? Loss.

that is not what rizky' meant , i guess he meant to avoid the long run and just try your luck at a single point where there are way too low chances for the casino or house edge to workout .
afaik it is true and could possibly have fair outcomes.

Gambler's fallacy. If you bet 1000 times at 1000 different casinos that have a 1% house edge over 1000 years, that's the same exact thing as betting 1 million times at one casino with a 1% house edge in 1 second. There is no difference.

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Quote from: Heutenamos on October 12, 2015, 05:28:02 AM

that is not what rizky' meant , i guess he meant to avoid the long run and just try your luck at a single point where there are way too low chances for the casino or house edge to workout .
afaik it is true and could possibly have fair outcomes.

Yeah but sometimes it doesn't happen so the ending will be, he will be played for a long run until he make his target. But if he will stop after a feeling that continuing more is not good then that is good and he can come back tomorrow for another target attempt.

Quote from: WEBcreator on October 12, 2015, 05:29:46 AM

Quote from: harizen on October 12, 2015, 03:15:53 AM

Just play with your own strategy and hope that luck will side to you in every roll. Cashout wisely so you can make profit. Strategy somehow can give you a thrilling experience eventhough overall we all know that no one wins in a long term of playing dice.

But there are no really strategy on dice game. the possible strategy that you can make is only martingale with some balance to cover your loss. No one wins in a long term because if people have a huge bankroll they will hit big and never go for some strategy. This strategy is just for some low balance not suitable for huge balance

Yes there are no strategy at all. Like I said just follow your own strategy because after all, all rolls will just under the site's provably fair system so that strategy you used is just for thrilling purposes only.

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Quote from: harizen on October 12, 2015, 03:15:53 AM

Just play with your own strategy and hope that luck will side to you in every roll. Cashout wisely so you can make profit. Strategy somehow can give you a thrilling experience eventhough overall we all know that no one wins in a long term of playing dice.

But there are no really strategy on dice game. the possible strategy that you can make is only martingale with some balance to cover your loss. No one wins in a long term because if people have a huge bankroll they will hit big and never go for some strategy. This strategy is just for some low balance not suitable for huge balance

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Quote from: harizen on October 12, 2015, 03:34:38 AM

Quote from: rizkyhiw on October 12, 2015, 03:16:37 AM

Quote from: Omikifuse on October 12, 2015, 02:12:27 AM

No strategy will change the house edge, so it doesn't matter.

Please show me one that changes the edge, if you know one

Even if a casino had a 0% house edge, you'd still be on the losing end due to maximum bets allowed. So this really doesn't matter.

Nothing can do to change the house. But at least with some strategy like bet on 70% once a day, hit and win and withdraw it, come back again to another site bet again on 70% chance to win and repeat it to many dice sites in a day. it can help bring our lucky come out.

Majority of all dice players likes that strategy but unfortunately the winds are turning them away.

A player will play in a dice game and he doesn't want to play for a long run so he decided that he will stop playing for that day if he can make a profit for at least 10%. Unfortunately it doesn't happen so what he will do next? Just play play play to make his target. He is now playing for a long run here and what's next? Loss.

that is not what rizky' meant , i guess he meant to avoid the long run and just try your luck at a single point where there are way too low chances for the casino or house edge to workout .
afaik it is true and could possibly have fair outcomes.

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Quote from: rizkyhiw on October 12, 2015, 03:16:37 AM

Quote from: Omikifuse on October 12, 2015, 02:12:27 AM

No strategy will change the house edge, so it doesn't matter.

Please show me one that changes the edge, if you know one

Even if a casino had a 0% house edge, you'd still be on the losing end due to maximum bets allowed. So this really doesn't matter.

Nothing can do to change the house. But at least with some strategy like bet on 70% once a day, hit and win and withdraw it, come back again to another site bet again on 70% chance to win and repeat it to many dice sites in a day. it can help bring our lucky come out.

Majority of all dice players likes that strategy but unfortunately the winds are turning them away.

A player will play in a dice game and he doesn't want to play for a long run so he decided that he will stop playing for that day if he can make a profit for at least 10%. Unfortunately it doesn't happen so what he will do next? Just play play play to make his target. He is now playing for a long run here and what's next? Loss.

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