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newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
October 19, 2014, 12:30:03 PM
Ok, so why was dicemasterflash.com registered on 10-14-2014 and redirecting to PRCdice?

Haha, trying to capitalize on the scammers name?  Cheesy

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dicemasterflash.com has been registered on 10/14/2014.

The main IP address of dicemasterflash.com is 184.168.221.15. Find all domains with IP address 184.168.221.15.

Get a full list of dicemasterflash.com DNS records on dnstoolkit.net.

Data about dicemasterflash.com was last updated on 2014-10-15 11:45:21

Geographical localization
Geographic information is given for reference only. It represents the place where the IP address associated with the domain is known to be. GeoIP is not 100% accurate.
Country   United States , US , NA
City   Scottsdale
ZIP code   85260
Coordinates   33.6119, -111.8906
ISP   
Organization   GoDaddy.com
Region   Arizona , AZ
Timezone   America/Phoenix

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Domain Name: DICEMASTERFLASH.COM
Registrar URL: http://www.godaddy.com
Registrant Name: steven steiner
Registrant Organization:
Name Server: NS33.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
Name Server: NS34.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
DNSSEC: unsigned

Actually, I registered it at first and was going to point it at gay porn to trick you guys into click it, but then GoDaddy took for fucking ever to get it on my list, so I just pointed it @ PRCDice.com with the rest of my Bitcoin domains Smiley


No worries, Dean will sue them for bringing traffic to his site Smiley


No shit Cheesy  Roll Eyes



so mr expert domain pimp ... who registered dice.ninja ?  


do you even know ?


 Roll Eyes


you doing this to be funny or just help muddy the waters?



legendary
Activity: 2380
Merit: 1209
The revolution will be digital
October 19, 2014, 11:03:33 AM
Why do people think legal action can't be taken?  Have you ever dealt with the courts?

In the US, where I believe dmf/toad/whoever is from, bitcoin is treated like any possession, not money.  If I loan my solid gold statue to a jewelry shop to drum up business and be payed a small portion of the business it brings, if he closes up shop and leaves, I could sue him and make him pay for my lawyers expenses as well.

If it's just because it's a "gambling" site, then by the IRS's own definition that bitcoin isn't money, they have made it the same as playing poker with food, computer parts, or whatever you use as a standin for real money.  Well at least if I lost a ton of money that's the route I'd go.

Courts can not enforce an illegal contract or award you damages based on illegal activity. If you're from the States and you sent money to this guy, you were involved in illegal activity, either gambling on an illegal site or investing in an illegal site. You have no legal remedy.

Have they specifically ruled it illegal yet?  If they have I haven't seen that mentioned anywhere.  So far they've just said it isn't classified as money, so in the eyes of the law it's just like gambling with things that may or may not be valuable in "real" money. Maybe that's illegal somehow online as well, but I think it's slightly different and/or not decided for bitcoin yet.  

What i mean is there will eventually be a case just like this the courts have to decide, so why not let it be this one where lots of money was stolen?

It is like giving someone Bitcoin to deliver you drugs and when the guy goes absconding with your coins, you complain to the law & enforcement for your stolen money. The first thing they'll do is take action against you for being involved into illegal activities. AFAIK ...this is a really shady area to deal with.
legendary
Activity: 3934
Merit: 1248
Owner at AltQuick.com
October 19, 2014, 07:06:48 AM
Every third party site Dooglus advertises turns out to be a scam. If I was dooglus, I would stop advertising dice sites.

You can't give into these fruity little fucks.

Doog just need a blog so he spreads out the attack if one goes tits up he is ok cause he didn't yolo @ it (like cloudflare lol.)

Doog and you you both could come do articles with Inkha and I on BitcoinGambling.Reviews Tongue  Wink
vip
Activity: 1316
Merit: 1043
👻
October 19, 2014, 07:02:26 AM
Every third party site Dooglus advertises turns out to be a scam. If I was dooglus, I would stop advertising dice sites.
legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1011
FUD Philanthropist™
October 19, 2014, 05:28:57 AM
"They" know we will raise a stink then get bored and wander off.. same old same old..

they have us buy the balls.. well actually only us Greedy guys LOL

next time..

hacker.. blah blah blah

drama...


forgotten.

rinse repeat

and they know it !
legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1011
FUD Philanthropist™
October 19, 2014, 05:24:56 AM
I don't understand why this guy isn't banned already?

scamming people is NOT against the rules.

but be VERY careful in how you get mad at the guy who ripped you off because it will get you banned maybe for Trolling or what ever..
this is a carefully constructed environment designed to protect scammers and minimize complainers..

most guys will tell you to quit whining and go make more bitcoin !
you are ruining all our image in crypto by being negative so be happy and cheer up Mr Downer.

sound familiar my fellow bitcoiners ?
legendary
Activity: 3934
Merit: 1248
Owner at AltQuick.com
October 19, 2014, 03:02:27 AM
Ok, so why was dicemasterflash.com registered on 10-14-2014 and redirecting to PRCdice?

Haha, trying to capitalize on the scammers name?  Cheesy

Quote
dicemasterflash.com has been registered on 10/14/2014.

The main IP address of dicemasterflash.com is 184.168.221.15. Find all domains with IP address 184.168.221.15.

Get a full list of dicemasterflash.com DNS records on dnstoolkit.net.

Data about dicemasterflash.com was last updated on 2014-10-15 11:45:21

Geographical localization
Geographic information is given for reference only. It represents the place where the IP address associated with the domain is known to be. GeoIP is not 100% accurate.
Country   United States , US , NA
City   Scottsdale
ZIP code   85260
Coordinates   33.6119, -111.8906
ISP   
Organization   GoDaddy.com
Region   Arizona , AZ
Timezone   America/Phoenix

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Domain Name: DICEMASTERFLASH.COM
Registrar URL: http://www.godaddy.com
Registrant Name: steven steiner
Registrant Organization:
Name Server: NS33.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
Name Server: NS34.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
DNSSEC: unsigned

Actually, I registered it at first and was going to point it at gay porn to trick you guys into click it, but then GoDaddy took for fucking ever to get it on my list, so I just pointed it @ PRCDice.com with the rest of my Bitcoin domains Smiley


No worries, Dean will sue them for bringing traffic to his site Smiley


No shit Cheesy  Roll Eyes
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 250
October 19, 2014, 01:15:38 AM
Why do people think legal action can't be taken?  Have you ever dealt with the courts?

In the US, where I believe dmf/toad/whoever is from, bitcoin is treated like any possession, not money.  If I loan my solid gold statue to a jewelry shop to drum up business and be payed a small portion of the business it brings, if he closes up shop and leaves, I could sue him and make him pay for my lawyers expenses as well.

If it's just because it's a "gambling" site, then by the IRS's own definition that bitcoin isn't money, they have made it the same as playing poker with food, computer parts, or whatever you use as a standin for real money.  Well at least if I lost a ton of money that's the route I'd go.

Courts can not enforce an illegal contract or award you damages based on illegal activity. If you're from the States and you sent money to this guy, you were involved in illegal activity, either gambling on an illegal site or investing in an illegal site. You have no legal remedy.

Have they specifically ruled it illegal yet?  If they have I haven't seen that mentioned anywhere.  So far they've just said it isn't classified as money, so in the eyes of the law it's just like gambling with things that may or may not be valuable in "real" money. Maybe that's illegal somehow online as well, but I think it's slightly different and/or not decided for bitcoin yet.  

What i mean is there will eventually be a case just like this the courts have to decide, so why not let it be this one where lots of money was stolen?

You're talking about the IRS definition of bitcoin, which is irrelevant. Running a gambling site is illegal. It doesn't matter if it's denominated in dollars, bitcoins, or hotdogs. The site itself, taking deposits of anything, and then allowing people to gamble to win more of that item, is a gambling site. Gambling sites are illegal. Therefore a court will not reward your illegal behavior by issuing a judgment in your favor.

I generally agree with you and it might go that way in the end, but technically they haven't ruled on gambling with stuff that isn't fiat currency as far as I'm aware.  Isn't that why gambling sites that are just for fun are legal?

It just seems like everyone is unsure and eventually there will be a court case to decide this stuff.

http://www.bitcoingg.com/bitcoin-gambling-legal/
http://www.npr.org/blogs/alltechconsidered/2013/02/06/171182974/is-online-gambling-legal-if-bitcoins-not-dollars-are-at-stake
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
October 18, 2014, 10:04:11 PM
Well, perhaps omahapoker or dooglus would be willing to act as judge? And you guys only have 1 week head start in terms of time, so 10k seems fair, just consider it a house edge, since you guys were here first Smiley



Ok! omaha u on for that? :p


yeah, it's on like donkey kong.


I'm respect that you came here and wished them good luck when they went live.


the 2 guys behind dice ninja are top notch devs, I help them on the promotion side


 ive been following them for a good 3-4 months. you know i follow and watch everysite. in 2-3 months only a few dice sites will remain. i know ninja will be one of them



of course so will DB and PD3 which will be PD4 or PD5 soon Wink



THE TWO GUYS AYE? LMAO YOU KNOW WHO THEY ARE DON'T YOU!!!   Shocked

*face palm*

Ownsley... you sir are a retard.


i got this !  Wink


http://sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/i/keep-calm-and-never-go-full-retard-15.png




legendary
Activity: 3934
Merit: 1248
Owner at AltQuick.com
October 18, 2014, 09:56:46 PM
Well, perhaps omahapoker or dooglus would be willing to act as judge? And you guys only have 1 week head start in terms of time, so 10k seems fair, just consider it a house edge, since you guys were here first Smiley



Ok! omaha u on for that? :p


yeah, it's on like donkey kong.


I'm respect that you came here and wished them good luck when they went live.


the 2 guys behind dice ninja are top notch devs, I help them on the promotion side


 ive been following them for a good 3-4 months. you know i follow and watch everysite. in 2-3 months only a few dice sites will remain. i know ninja will be one of them



of course so will DB and PD3 which will be PD4 or PD5 soon Wink



THE TWO GUYS AYE? LMAO YOU KNOW WHO THEY ARE DON'T YOU!!!   Shocked

*face palm*

Ownsley... you sir are a retard.
legendary
Activity: 2044
Merit: 1115
★777Coin.com★ Fun BTC Casino!
October 18, 2014, 01:59:51 PM
Why do people think legal action can't be taken?  Have you ever dealt with the courts?

In the US, where I believe dmf/toad/whoever is from, bitcoin is treated like any possession, not money.  If I loan my solid gold statue to a jewelry shop to drum up business and be payed a small portion of the business it brings, if he closes up shop and leaves, I could sue him and make him pay for my lawyers expenses as well.

If it's just because it's a "gambling" site, then by the IRS's own definition that bitcoin isn't money, they have made it the same as playing poker with food, computer parts, or whatever you use as a standin for real money.  Well at least if I lost a ton of money that's the route I'd go.

Courts can not enforce an illegal contract or award you damages based on illegal activity. If you're from the States and you sent money to this guy, you were involved in illegal activity, either gambling on an illegal site or investing in an illegal site. You have no legal remedy.

Have they specifically ruled it illegal yet?  If they have I haven't seen that mentioned anywhere.  So far they've just said it isn't classified as money, so in the eyes of the law it's just like gambling with things that may or may not be valuable in "real" money. Maybe that's illegal somehow online as well, but I think it's slightly different and/or not decided for bitcoin yet.  

What i mean is there will eventually be a case just like this the courts have to decide, so why not let it be this one where lots of money was stolen?

You're talking about the IRS definition of bitcoin, which is irrelevant. Running a gambling site is illegal. It doesn't matter if it's denominated in dollars, bitcoins, or hotdogs. The site itself, taking deposits of anything, and then allowing people to gamble to win more of that item, is a gambling site. Gambling sites are illegal. Therefore a court will not reward your illegal behavior by issuing a judgment in your favor.
legendary
Activity: 966
Merit: 1001
October 18, 2014, 01:45:10 PM

Yup you are right. He mentioned the refund Tx ID in the following post.

Update: I just had 0.5 BTC show up in my emergency address

This is the address: 1KZD3fmaGsZz8LmtHdo4wSwLoHVLQJdHtY

this is the TX:

https://blockchain.info/tx/58bc687c2da304bb5d3dee003c8cebb9366fb2373a8c3b2b7857ff8960eb7b4b

This is 1/100th of what they owe me...

Right after I mentioned this on prcdice I got disconnected, and now can't reconnect...
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
hero member
Activity: 583
Merit: 500
Bitcoin for all & all for Bitcoin
October 18, 2014, 01:39:10 PM
Where's the txid for AK's BTC 0.5 refund?
sr. member
Activity: 464
Merit: 250
October 18, 2014, 01:35:30 PM
I don't understand why this guy isn't banned already?
legendary
Activity: 966
Merit: 1001
October 18, 2014, 01:34:18 PM
Our friend here is doing some serious overtime: http://i.snag.gy/fNoxB.jpg

Anyway, on topic, where are we with the partial refunds and the "compromised accounts" story, whatever that may mean? Has anyone received any refunds lately?

https://blockchain.info/address/1QAitJvHj5GqzLW6pmheGXTctEwCWR9sNi is empty and shows three 10 BTC transactions, do we know if these were refunds?

The transaction c3b5d22f64ebfd8d9db248a9513975d4c696e0f0abf9acff25e9c2cee61dbc04 was reported to be a refund.
I received 10% of my balance (roughly) to my emergency address:

https://blockchain.info/tx/c3b5d22f64ebfd8d9db248a9513975d4c696e0f0abf9acff25e9c2cee61dbc04

Another user reported getting a 10 btc refund to address 12Zxje, so it is probably the transaction c7b8e05e3cc06618629eafe91a5905498564c5988c54138e87a203d343c55b28.

I received 10 btc back..

293 remaining. waiting for the rest to address 12Zxj2.

You know the account - You know I'm "watching".
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
October 18, 2014, 01:34:05 PM
Well, perhaps omahapoker or dooglus would be willing to act as judge? And you guys only have 1 week head start in terms of time, so 10k seems fair, just consider it a house edge, since you guys were here first Smiley



Ok! omaha u on for that? :p


yeah, it's on like donkey kong.


I'm respect that you came here and wished them good luck when they went live.


the 2 guys behind dice ninja are top notch devs, I help them on the promotion side


 ive been following them for a good 3-4 months. you know i follow and watch everysite. in 2-3 months only a few dice sites will remain. i know ninja will be one of them



of course so will DB and PD3 which will be PD4 or PD5 soon Wink



THE TWO GUYS AYE? LMAO YOU KNOW WHO THEY ARE DON'T YOU!!!   Shocked
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
October 18, 2014, 01:30:17 PM
this is a gread site guys. you've really outdone yourselves. I am going to try it now. since it's bitcoin im going to invest too. i want to grow with thesite and be known as one of the first there 5 years from now

SOUNDS LEGIT!  Roll Eyes
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
October 18, 2014, 01:27:39 PM
Just give it a rest already dude...    Stunna and dooglus don't owe anybody a damn thing over this.

And please show me where doog ever "aggressively touted this site"?

Actually...  don't. Because you will just troll more by digging up mostly irrelevant dooglus quotes.

The first rule of BBmmBBclub is don't talk to BBmmBB.

The second rule of BBmmBBclub is don't talk to BBmmBB.

I've been really impressed recently with how well everyone has been ignoring his deranged rants. Let's see if we can keep it up, eh? Smiley


nice troll post mr sockpuppet! ~ you promoted and touted this site and should really think about what your are stepping into here... not only do you have angry bitcoiners but now you will have the SEC on your ass!!!
:-)

 >>>where you going to go with this?
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