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legendary
Activity: 930
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October 14, 2014, 03:11:21 PM
Groan. Nope.

Yeah I'm pretty sure they sent a few of my withdrawals directly from their cold wallet.  I requested a withdrawal, and they sent it however they wanted to, I have no control over that.

Also, I run a TOR exit node.  It's pretty trivial to set up tor to connect through a specific node if you're so inclined.  It's more likely that they (or you) are framing me because they/you hope I'm someone who can afford to cover the site's losses.

I haven't used TOR in a while so I'm not sure if you can choose a specific exit node or not, but it's very clear that is not the normal way to use it. Normally you are just given a random exit node.

Besides what are the odds of ninja.dicedice.ninja using your TOR node by chance over and over again. Come on....

By chance? Pretty damned low.  Intentionally, makes more sense to me, especially if you were planning on setting me up like this.  I have a very fast internet connection (250Mb down/10Mb up) and wouldn't even notice the extra traffic.

My current IP is 24.237.33.231

Feel free to check that it's in fact a TOR exit node.

How would he know you run a TOR node with that IP?

I discovered (and played on) JPCDice right after they launched.  This is where I first grew acquainted with DMF and T04D.  They could have very easily port scanned me, as I connected to their site frequently.

So, in order to run a long con DMF port scanned you and luckily found a you were ran a TOR exit node and used it for months in order to have someone come up with this and blame it on you?

That doesn't strike me as believable. Now, I'm not saying you did it because I have no way of knowing this. But this just sounds too outlandish.
hero member
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always the student, never the master.
October 14, 2014, 03:10:10 PM
Trying to pin this on Stunna now? that is a very bold accusation. You better have some substantial evidence to back it.
full member
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October 14, 2014, 03:09:53 PM
Ok AK. I have seen you chart and messages on various sites, you said you have 1000's of coins. Clearly, you are being questioned here. Can you show any form of proof you actuallly have 1000's of coins? and even a photo of a mining rig you claimed you still owned(with todays date next to it)?

Of course I can, I'll post some photos a little later on.
sr. member
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October 14, 2014, 03:06:20 PM
Code:
% TOR Node Checker Tool
% Copyright(c) 2014, Daniel Austin MBCS.
%
% Hello, xxxxxxxxxx, pleased to meet you.
%
% Checking IP: 206.174.121.150
%
Status: NAK
% The IP address is *not* a TOR Node.
Code:
% TOR Node Checker Tool
% Copyright(c) 2014, Daniel Austin MBCS.
%
% Hello, xxxxxxxxxx, pleased to meet you.
%
% Checking IP: 66.223.177.52
%
Status: NAK
% The IP address is *not* a TOR Node.
full member
Activity: 154
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October 14, 2014, 03:06:01 PM
Ok AK. I have seen you chart and messages on various sites, you said you have 1000's of coins. Clearly, you are being questioned here. Can you show any form of proof you actuallly have 1000's of coins? and even a photo of a mining rig you claimed you still owned(with todays date next to it)?
full member
Activity: 220
Merit: 100
October 14, 2014, 03:03:43 PM
Groan. Nope.

Yeah I'm pretty sure they sent a few of my withdrawals directly from their cold wallet.  I requested a withdrawal, and they sent it however they wanted to, I have no control over that.

Definitely possible. I however talked to a few  (3) people who requested withdrawals when the hot wallet didn't have enough funds, and they were all given errors and not able to withdraw until the hot wallet was filled. If the funds were never frozen and queued, I don't see how dmf could have processed a withdrawal directly from the cold storage for you?

Am I missing something?

They gave me special treatment, on a number of occasions.  I would PM them in chat, saying I couldn't withdraw, and about a minute later one of them would tell me to refresh because my balance had changed.
hero member
Activity: 868
Merit: 1000
October 14, 2014, 03:02:05 PM
Groan. Nope.

Yeah I'm pretty sure they sent a few of my withdrawals directly from their cold wallet.  I requested a withdrawal, and they sent it however they wanted to, I have no control over that.

Definitely possible. I however talked to a few  (3) people who requested withdrawals when the hot wallet didn't have enough funds, and they were all given errors and not able to withdraw until the hot wallet was filled. If the funds were never frozen and queued, I don't see how dmf could have processed a withdrawal directly from the cold storage for you?

Am I missing something?


dmf always gave special teatment to AK


ninja VIP Players club


were you a VIP?
full member
Activity: 220
Merit: 100
October 14, 2014, 03:01:34 PM
Groan. Nope.

Yeah I'm pretty sure they sent a few of my withdrawals directly from their cold wallet.  I requested a withdrawal, and they sent it however they wanted to, I have no control over that.

Also, I run a TOR exit node.  It's pretty trivial to set up tor to connect through a specific node if you're so inclined.  It's more likely that they (or you) are framing me because they/you hope I'm someone who can afford to cover the site's losses.

I haven't used TOR in a while so I'm not sure if you can choose a specific exit node or not, but it's very clear that is not the normal way to use it. Normally you are just given a random exit node.

Besides what are the odds of ninja.dicedice.ninja using your TOR node by chance over and over again. Come on....

By chance? Pretty damned low.  Intentionally, makes more sense to me, especially if you were planning on setting me up like this.  I have a very fast internet connection (250Mb down/10Mb up) and wouldn't even notice the extra traffic.

My current IP is 24.237.33.231

Feel free to check that it's in fact a TOR exit node.

How would he know you run a TOR node with that IP?

I discovered (and played on) JPCDice right after they launched.  This is where I first grew acquainted with DMF and T04D.  They could have very easily port scanned me, as I connected to their site frequently.
full member
Activity: 154
Merit: 101
October 14, 2014, 03:00:57 PM
Groan. Nope.

Yeah I'm pretty sure they sent a few of my withdrawals directly from their cold wallet.  I requested a withdrawal, and they sent it however they wanted to, I have no control over that.

Definitely possible. I however talked to a few  (3) people who requested withdrawals when the hot wallet didn't have enough funds, and they were all given errors and not able to withdraw until the hot wallet was filled. If the funds were never frozen and queued, I don't see how dmf could have processed a withdrawal directly from the cold storage for you?

Am I missing something?
legendary
Activity: 930
Merit: 1010
October 14, 2014, 02:59:50 PM
Groan. Nope.

Yeah I'm pretty sure they sent a few of my withdrawals directly from their cold wallet.  I requested a withdrawal, and they sent it however they wanted to, I have no control over that.

Also, I run a TOR exit node.  It's pretty trivial to set up tor to connect through a specific node if you're so inclined.  It's more likely that they (or you) are framing me because they/you hope I'm someone who can afford to cover the site's losses.

I haven't used TOR in a while so I'm not sure if you can choose a specific exit node or not, but it's very clear that is not the normal way to use it. Normally you are just given a random exit node.

Besides what are the odds of ninja.dicedice.ninja using your TOR node by chance over and over again. Come on....

By chance? Pretty damned low.  Intentionally, makes more sense to me, especially if you were planning on setting me up like this.  I have a very fast internet connection (250Mb down/10Mb up) and wouldn't even notice the extra traffic.

My current IP is 24.237.33.231

Feel free to check that it's in fact a TOR exit node.

How would he know you run a TOR node with that IP?
sr. member
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October 14, 2014, 02:57:56 PM
Was dice.ninja even launched back in June?

Apparently not:

Hey Dicers,

We're pleased to announce the official launch of dice.ninja!

DMF also owned DarkDice and JPCDice as well, which I'm sure were launched in/before June
full member
Activity: 154
Merit: 100
October 14, 2014, 02:57:41 PM
Now its getting really interesting. Not only the fact that they might have been stupid enough to use the same IP's, but also the fact that dice.ninja shut down around the time after AK lost his coins at PD. Also around the time he lost his coins on other sites,also the fact that it was AK who took dice.ninja negative 350 coins.
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1333
October 14, 2014, 02:57:07 PM
It seems we had a 'dmf' on Just-Dice too:

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Sat Jun  7 05:42:21 2014 (788073) two guys named dmf and toad
Tue Jun 17 18:41:29 2014 (826496) AGY is A Great Yoose, a whale from jpcdice
Tue Jun 17 18:42:02 2014 (826496) hiya
Tue Jun 17 18:44:18 2014 (826496) oh god yoose
Tue Jun 17 18:49:31 2014 (826496) his chart at jpcdice: https://jpcdice.com/static/html/graphs/470.html
Tue Jun 17 18:50:11 2014 (826496) that was like +20k$ to -40k$
Tue Jun 17 18:52:37 2014 (826496) he won't stop until either you are broke or he is
Tue Jun 17 18:53:30 2014 (826496) he spammed max bet at jpc for six hours the other day
Tue Jun 17 18:54:55 2014 (826496) oh wow
Tue Jun 17 18:55:13 2014 (826496) lol
Tue Jun 17 18:56:23 2014 (826496) he will never stop
Tue Jun 17 18:56:49 2014 (74747) Yeah he will this isnt come infinite shit coin place (826496) he will never stop
Tue Jun 17 18:57:12 2014 (826496) uvwvj, what's with the hostility?
Tue Jun 17 18:59:06 2014 (826496) his graph is just a sine wave
Tue Jun 17 19:02:36 2014 (826496) doog, if he doesn't bust he will destroy your investment
Tue Jun 17 19:03:05 2014 (74747) Please kindly just STFU (826496) doog, if he doesn't bust he will destroy your investment
Tue Jun 17 19:03:24 2014 (826496) uvwvj, no u
Tue Jun 17 19:04:41 2014 (826496) GO YOOSE
Tue Jun 17 19:05:32 2014 (826496) uvwvj, I really don't appreciate the hating.  yes I made my own dice site for an altcoin.  is that really such a big deal to you? Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, you know
Tue Jun 17 19:16:22 2014 (826496) we're not baiting him
Tue Jun 17 19:16:44 2014 (826496) we hopefully convinced him to cash out
Tue Jun 17 19:21:28 2014 (826496) Yose I really hope you cashed some of that out
Tue Jun 17 19:25:39 2014 (826496) I think he cashed out a bunch of it
Thu Jun 19 06:46:14 2014 (798416) or dmf?
Tue Aug 19 09:47:14 2014 (225929) i havenk AK, but dmf runs jpcdice and darkdice.net
Sun Sep 21 23:03:27 2014 (4764) <@Wilco> bay dmf and toad are cool bro

Edit: some context for that line from inkha one line up from the end:

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Tue Aug 19 09:32:28 2014 (843481) anybody check out dice.ninja yet?
Tue Aug 19 09:32:33 2014 (843481) it looks cool
Tue Aug 19 09:32:43 2014 (843481) but basically nothing invested yet
Tue Aug 19 09:47:14 2014 (225929) i havenk AK, but dmf runs jpcdice and darkdice.net

That was the first mention of dice.ninja in the JD chat, about 8 hours after the launch announcement was posted.
full member
Activity: 220
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October 14, 2014, 02:56:15 PM
I used the username DeanNolan on Primedice as well.  While doing so, I lost BTC there that can be traced directly to the prcdice cold wallet.  Does that make me Dean Nolan too?  lol
hero member
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October 14, 2014, 02:54:42 PM
holy f**k
full member
Activity: 220
Merit: 100
October 14, 2014, 02:53:27 PM
Groan. Nope.

Yeah I'm pretty sure they sent a few of my withdrawals directly from their cold wallet.  I requested a withdrawal, and they sent it however they wanted to, I have no control over that.

Also, I run a TOR exit node.  It's pretty trivial to set up tor to connect through a specific node if you're so inclined.  It's more likely that they (or you) are framing me because they/you hope I'm someone who can afford to cover the site's losses.

I haven't used TOR in a while so I'm not sure if you can choose a specific exit node or not, but it's very clear that is not the normal way to use it. Normally you are just given a random exit node.

Besides what are the odds of ninja.dicedice.ninja using your TOR node by chance over and over again. Come on....

By chance? Pretty damned low.  Intentionally, makes more sense to me, especially if you were planning on setting me up like this.  I have a very fast internet connection (250Mb down/10Mb up) and wouldn't even notice the extra traffic.

My current IP is 24.237.33.231

Feel free to check that it's in fact a TOR exit node.
hero member
Activity: 868
Merit: 1000
October 14, 2014, 02:53:00 PM
if this isnt turned int a tv movie of the week, i''ll be shocked



if it turns out dmf and ak are roomates then TO4D must be the gimp
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1333
October 14, 2014, 02:52:57 PM
Was dice.ninja even launched back in June?

Apparently not:

Hey Dicers,

We're pleased to announce the official launch of dice.ninja!
full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 100
October 14, 2014, 02:51:18 PM
Was dice.ninja even launched back in June?
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1333
October 14, 2014, 02:49:01 PM
akcoin and dmf shared the same ip address, confirmed by the administrators of moneypot and just-dice.
dooglus has not publically said so, but no doubt will soon

A user called "dmf" (userid 257954) visited doge-dice from an IP address that AK also used. He connected 5 times in total, all from the same IP address, at these times UTC:

2014-06-24 14:46:23
2014-06-24 15:04:07
2014-06-24 15:13:13
2014-06-24 16:01:32
2014-07-01 15:50:57

He chatted a little:

Quote
Tue Jun 24 14:46:58 2014 (257954) is x around?
Tue Jun 24 14:50:46 2014 (257954) is x still around? I was hoping I could convince to let me pick his brain about his rain bot before this place is a desert
Tue Jun 24 14:51:20 2014 (257954) cool
Tue Jun 24 14:53:05 2014 (257954) you can hang out with us at
Tue Jun 24 14:53:14 2014 (257954) ugh it feels wrong to plug my own site on here while you guys are closing up shop
Tue Jun 24 14:53:22 2014 (257954) another dice site
Tue Jun 24 14:54:54 2014 (257954) anyway, I was wondering how he calculates activity level
Tue Jun 24 14:55:13 2014 (257954) I figure he has experience tweaking it here
Tue Jun 24 14:55:20 2014 (257954) I know
Tue Jun 24 14:56:22 2014 (257954) I'm trying to improve bot remediation for the rain bot I run on my own (other) dice site
Tue Jun 24 14:56:34 2014 (257954) I figure x might have some insight
Tue Jun 24 15:01:21 2014 (257954) I don't need help coding it, I was just wondering if he's using levenshtein distance matching to filter out auto-chatting bots
Tue Jun 24 15:02:49 2014 (257954) cause I'd rather have botting the rain than just end up with a bunch of ALICEbot clones talking to each other in the channel
Tue Jun 24 15:03:08 2014 (257954) or Eliza or whatever they use for that
Tue Jun 24 15:04:31 2014 (257954) some of you do
Tue Jun 24 15:04:48 2014 (257954) some of the guys who hang out in our chat... not so much
Tue Jun 24 15:08:20 2014 (257954) lol
Tue Jun 24 15:15:39 2014 (257954) do you guys know if doog is planning on bring DD back at some point?
Tue Jun 24 15:15:50 2014 (257954) bringing*
Tue Jun 24 15:17:24 2014 (257954) well, JD is down to 9252 invested...

Checking the logs for other accounts connecting from the exact same IP address, I see this many logins from each of these userids:

     15 1152
      5 173102
      5 211040
      1 225064
     19 252069
      5 257954
      2 259184
      7 260705

1152 is AKCoinDigger. He connected on his 1152 account using the same IP address as dmf at these times UTC:

2014-06-07 05:45:22
2014-06-07 06:26:43
2014-06-07 19:25:05
2014-06-10 02:52:43
2014-06-24 12:28:04
2014-06-24 14:43:22
2014-06-24 16:16:43
2014-06-24 16:17:45
2014-06-24 18:33:31
2014-06-24 20:32:58
2014-06-25 02:58:23
2014-06-25 09:08:22
2014-06-25 13:33:47
2014-06-25 16:04:22
2014-06-25 16:04:24

Sorting AK's and dmf's connections together, we see these connection times:

2014-06-24 12:28:04 AK
2014-06-24 14:43:22 AK

2014-06-24 14:46:23 dmf
2014-06-24 15:04:07 dmf
2014-06-24 15:13:13 dmf
2014-06-24 16:01:32 dmf

2014-06-24 16:16:43 AK
2014-06-24 16:17:45 AK
2014-06-24 18:33:31 AK
2014-06-24 20:32:58 AK

They were both active on the same IP address within minutes of each other.

Maybe dmf used AK's Tor exit node to pretend to be him (though there's no evidence that this IP address was ever a Tor exit node).
Maybe dmf installed malware on AK's machine and used it to pretend to be him.
Maybe AK made an account called "dmf" and pretended to have his own dice site for laughs.
Maybe AK is dmf.
Maybe AK and dmf are roommates, or dmf steals AK's wifi, or ...

I'm currently uncompressing the Just-Dice logfiles and will search for the same IP address in there too.
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