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legendary
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November 01, 2024, 11:31:46 AM
#24
I think it'd be better if more people get to make topics instead of having the same generic things come up over and over again.
Why do you think people would come with something original if you keep closing threads after those 200 replies that you proposed? Imho, better keep all that juink in one thread instead new ones popping every week or two.

I am not saying that some megathreads shouldn't be locked, but each thread should be evalued separately and act accordingly.
legendary
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November 01, 2024, 11:24:33 AM
#23
I'm not sure aboutyour proposal to lock topics after reaching certain number of responses. But your mentioned 200 responses looks like way too high number. It's 1 pages after all. In such generic topic it's difficult to say something maybe after 4-5 pages already

As far as I have been following the situation on the forum over the years, the Gambling board has always had a little more "freedom of expression" if we can say that, than the rest of the forum. I'm not only talking about magathreads, but also about the use of ref links in posts that were tolerated in that board (at least for some users).
Didn't paid attention to ref links in posts, but indeed, there is more freedom than in other boards. Like there is topics which is completely not related to gambling. First few topics titles who came to my eyes now:
Favorite Sport Team https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/favorite-sport-team-5515884    
Arsenal Fan Killed Manchester U Fan for Celebrating Liverpool vs Arsenal 2-2. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5516332
What you miss about a superstar leaving your team? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/what-you-miss-about-a-superstar-leaving-your-team-5515754
IMO, only right place for such threads is Off-topic, it has nothing related with gambling.
legendary
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November 01, 2024, 10:34:44 AM
#22
As I already wrote, ref links are not allowed in posts and there are only exceptions - and here we return to the topic I started in 2019, in which you can find some opinions and answers. Our global mod had his own thoughts about it, which is on the lines of what I wrote.
Thank you.

I remember of reading that post years ago. I only did not remember who shared that opinion and before that post, I didn't know that there are special cases (here case by case basis) with ref links are allowed by forum moderators. Mostly it is from business companies and if you are not a campaign manager, not a brand representative, if you add a referral link in your post, you will be banned.

Like newbies can join the forum and shill their posts with ref links, ban hammer will be used shortly if they don' self-delete ref links.
legendary
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November 01, 2024, 08:37:32 AM
#21
As far as I have been following the situation on the forum over the years, the Gambling board has always had a little more "freedom of expression" if we can say that, than the rest of the forum. I'm not only talking about magathreads, but also about the use of ref links in posts that were tolerated in that board (at least for some users).
I didn't know that ref links are allowed in discussion posts, in mega threads in Gambling board and in particular Gambling discussion board. The exception is only in signature campaign thread, or Gambling board but in threads as Service announcement for gambling companies. They are allowed to use ref links to track traffics from Bitcointalk to their websites or signature campaigns.

Did you mean this as exception in your post?

I don't know other uses of ref links are allowed.


As I already wrote, ref links are not allowed in posts and there are only exceptions - and here we return to the topic I started in 2019, in which you can find some opinions and answers. Our global mod had his own thoughts about it, which is on the lines of what I wrote.

Technically they're against the rules, but people kinda started to get a free pass in the Gambling Discussion sub a while back. Personally, I don't really care about them regarding users like tipsters who are giving their picks away for free and include a ref link if anyone wants to put the bet through them. At least they're putting some effort or at least thought into their posts, but I'm sure many others (including mods) would disagree. If someone just signs up to post a ref link though that would be a different story. Theymos will probably say take them on a case by case basis but I'm sure everyone has a different opinion on in what context they should or shouldn't be allowed (especially regarding tipsters).
hero member
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November 01, 2024, 12:58:19 AM
#20
As far as I have been following the situation on the forum over the years, the Gambling board has always had a little more "freedom of expression" if we can say that, than the rest of the forum. I'm not only talking about magathreads, but also about the use of ref links in posts that were tolerated in that board (at least for some users).

Should moderators lock topics in the Gambling board? I think that the majority of moderators will not do something like that on their own, because moderation on the forum depends on user reports, as some others have said. I would simply use the "report to moderator" button if I think a topic should be locked - or I would send a message to the OP so that he might do it himself if he thinks there are conditions for it.
The report button part is true, I have never heard of any mods locking any topic just because they wanted to, first it needs to be reported and that would make things better and I would suggest anything to grow anytime differently. We should consider how to change things for the long term if we want mods to be more active and take initiative.

However, we don't need to come to conclusion that posts were reported before and not reported now, I am sure they are as reported now as they ever been. Sometimes mods are more active and listen to what we say, sometimes they are not. Also, this forum has very few mods, so it is not like we are talking about hundreds of them, they are very few, so sometimes they can be busy and just not care about the reports at some moment and care about their life, they have a personal life too, we can't expect them to be online 7/24.
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Aside 200 page mods can still decide to lock any thread below 200 replies as seen, it’s so simple identifying a mega thread besides not all thread should get up to 200 response before mods take action. I don’t think they owe an explanation or give a an exact limit because not all topics should be considered as spam, is op against spam or just mega threads alone. I see few reply talk about report but what’s the point reporting a thread with no valid point or after reporting no action being carried out, I guess mods do this for clean up since the gambling section is always filled.
legendary
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As far as I have been following the situation on the forum over the years, the Gambling board has always had a little more "freedom of expression" if we can say that, than the rest of the forum. I'm not only talking about magathreads, but also about the use of ref links in posts that were tolerated in that board (at least for some users).
I didn't know that ref links are allowed in discussion posts, in mega threads in Gambling board and in particular Gambling discussion board. The exception is only in signature campaign thread, or Gambling board but in threads as Service announcement for gambling companies. They are allowed to use ref links to track traffics from Bitcointalk to their websites or signature campaigns.

Did you mean this as exception in your post?

I don't know other uses of ref links are allowed.
copper member
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As far as i know mods only will do it (lock the thread and do other mod stuff) once its reported so they can manage it on their moderator's page. Without it it's rare for them to handle it, that's why they encourage people to report posts and thread for them to their job. It would be great if one of them respond here.

This is correct based on my observation. There’s still a lot of megathread on gambling discussion board that still open despite it already contained 10+ pages that already recycle the discussion while those locked thread has same objective.

Mods occasionally lock a thread that probably received multiple reports of being spam due to the redundancy on the post received on that particular thread.

hero member
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I understand what you are trying to say. Last time I checked, most of the threads in page 2 and so on in the gambling section were locked, but it never stopped the usual spam in the gambling section, which just resulted in creating new threads. So it's just a waste of time for the mod whoever did that. They might change their attitude and only lock when someone reports it from now on.

Gambling section is becoming more complicated but at the same time can't be considered as spam too even though the contents are repetitive.
legendary
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I also noticed that this days and I was also asking the same question. What happened that moderators are not locking threads and again in that section and new threads are flooding the boards. And I was thinking that they are good to discuss and that is why they are not locking threads again. And I don't believe that people are not reporting threads in the section. Because people  are there to report at all times. Also noticed again in this forum. For the few reports I have made, 96% is unattended. I would made reports and checked the thread few days later, it is still there so I don't bother to report again. But if my post are reported, they will not waste time to delete it.
legendary
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Well yes, rules are better than ambiguity I reckon
It's impossible to have clear rules in spam.

What I'm sure is spam always exist, there's no way you will not see spam in less moderated board and moreover the traffic keeps declining.

You, as someone who participated in gambling campaign should be grateful for the moderators to not lock the thread and moved the thread from gambling discussion to off topic section.
I'm right here posting suggestions to try and improve the forum and the board's contents and suddenly I'm being called ungrateful  Cry Cry Cry
legendary
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As far as I have been following the situation on the forum over the years, the Gambling board has always had a little more "freedom of expression" if we can say that, than the rest of the forum. I'm not only talking about magathreads, but also about the use of ref links in posts that were tolerated in that board (at least for some users).

Should moderators lock topics in the Gambling board? I think that the majority of moderators will not do something like that on their own, because moderation on the forum depends on user reports, as some others have said. I would simply use the "report to moderator" button if I think a topic should be locked - or I would send a message to the OP so that he might do it himself if he thinks there are conditions for it.
hero member
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Well yes, rules are better than ambiguity I reckon
It's impossible to have clear rules in spam.

What I'm sure is spam always exist, there's no way you will not see spam in less moderated board and moreover the traffic keeps declining.

You, as someone who participated in gambling campaign should be grateful for the moderators to not lock the thread and moved the thread from gambling discussion to off topic section.
legendary
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Well yes, rules are better than ambiguity I reckon
legendary
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Licking threads only when they get reported is very subjective.

Why?

One thread can be deemed not worthy of more discussion in 50 responses, another one in 300, or maybe the one reporting it doesn't see it for a good while although it should have been locked.

If there's a rule it can be easier to know what to report also.

One more rule you want? Given that we have blatant cases of rules that are not complied with, why do you want another one that we don't know if it will be complied with or not, or in what percentage.

Personally I have reported several threads on GS to be locked and they all were.
legendary
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October 31, 2024, 02:08:35 AM
#9
It's either no one report the thread ...

That is. If the OP wants certain threads to be locked what he has to do is report them.
Locking threads only when they get reported is very subjective.
One thread can be deemed not worthy of more discussion in 50 responses, another one in 300, or maybe the one reporting it doesn't see it for a good while although it should have been locked.

If there's a rule it can be easier to know what to report also.
legendary
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October 31, 2024, 01:48:29 AM
#8
I remember maybe till a few weeks ago if a thread in the gambling discussion board was to hit a handful of pages in length, mods would lock it.
Now again this practice seems to have stopped and threads get a few hundreds of responses before they either naturally die down on their own or are locked by the OP.
I didn't fully agree with this practice as it was implemented but surely there's some potential to the idea.
Moderators can lock these threads when they saw those threads are shit ones or if they got reports from forum members and agreed with reporters.

Reporting is key to inform moderators to take action, so if you want threads in gambling discussion board to be locked, trashed, you need to report them. If you don't report them, I think there are very few reasons to complain.

You will have more reasons for complaining if your reports are marked as Unhandled or Bad.

Why There Are So Many Premier League 2024/2025 Threads In Gambling Discussion?
Why are so many gambling discussion threads getting locked?
OP* you have a responsibility: Gambling Board
legendary
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October 30, 2024, 11:11:19 PM
#7
It's either no one report the thread ...

That is. If the OP wants certain threads to be locked what he has to do is report them.
hero member
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October 30, 2024, 10:10:39 PM
#6
It's either no one report the thread or they're not forced for doing that. The second one I mean is users here are complaining and asking moderators to lock the thread, few weeks ago there were few thread about spam in gambling board, this is what I'm talking about.

Look now, there are no one complain about spam in gambling board.
hero member
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October 30, 2024, 09:16:48 PM
#5
I noticed that too, but I won’t question the mods’ decision not to actively lock threads right now - that’s their call. Honestly, I don’t think all the threads that were locked before needed to be, but they know their job, and I respect that. There are still plenty of threads, and even if they keep locking them, new ones will keep popping up since users won’t stop coming up with topics to spam.

The forum is big, and that section isn’t the only one that needs attention. I don’t see anything wrong with the current situation; I actually see some improvement since those threads were locked before. That past action might deter users from creating threads that could turn into spam hubs.

Since you’ve made this observation, it’d be great if you could point out an example of an active threads that you think is spam so we can see if your judgment aligns with ours here.

* In my view we could call a topic a "megathread" if it's about an ongoing matter and it's common sense of all related discussion to happen there. For example "English football 24-25 season" etc.

Megathread refers to a thread with a lot of replies, so we could say certain threads should be allowed to be megathreads if they have ongoing topics. Those that are too generic shouldn’t qualify, and mods should lock them if they’ve served their purpose but users keep replying, often just to meet their signature campaign requirements.

I’m not sure if there’s a specific definition of a megathread, but @yahoo62278 doesn’t pay posts in his campaign for gambling threads that have already hit 10 pages. That seems like another initiative to help prevent users from spamming.
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