Topic: Digital goods section is a mess - page 2. (Read 553 times)

The self moderated threads were largely put in to place FOR the marketplace section because some users would use them to harass/troll people trying to trade legitimately. The logic being a sales ad does not necessarily need to be a conversation, and any fraudulent activity can be dealt with by rating, posting in scam/rep, or reporting forum abuses. The same goes for locking threads. It is a mistake to consider only the features valuable to you personally as the only valuable features, because that kind of thinking works both ways. I would suggest a rank requirement to post any digital goods. The only problem is, as it is now, people will try to post digital goods in other sections to get around this mess. About 80% of the posts I report in the goods section is stuff that belongs in digital goods currently, so there will be blow back to other sections as a direct result.

This is a mere assumption, but a very large percentage of gift cards/coupons are obtained illegitimately, or through questionable practices. Many are legitimate, but I would categorize it as one of the items that flood the section. Gift cards are generally a major player in money-laundering, carding, and other illegal practices. I'm not sure exactly where gift cards would fall, the lists I made were just my opinions anyways

I agree with you. Selling illegal things isn't allowed here on Bitcointalk. So we shouldn't see sales of cracked accounts, KYC documents, activation keys and similar things there. Seems that this section isn't moderated much.
But I don't agree with one your point - I don't see nothing wrong with low value stuff like gift cards, coupons. I don't think that we should create separate section for it. Main thing in improving digital goods section would be removing of illegal stuff.

How have I never noticed your threads? The last three are especially true. It's completely necessary, and I imagine the fix is extremely simple and won't take 5 minutes. Self-moderated threads should not ever be a thing, locking threads to unlock for a bump should not be a thing, and trust should always be visible. I'll visit your threads, the marketplace could be so much more active and efficient, as well as alot less scams happening if these simple changes are made.

Absolutely, a lot of things must be done there:

• Adding new subsections, as you propose. They could include: gift cards/coupons, domains/websites, scripts/templates/software, ...
• Better checking for items not on the right sections, too frequent bumps, illegal items, ... Maybe another moderator is required in addition to the existing ones.
• Showing trust to guests or requiring to register before visiting that section
• Disabling self-moderated threads and not allowing to unlock locked threads

I used to watch that board, not sure why.  I guess like you it was fascinating to see what digital goods were available, never tried to sell anything there except some crappy domain names.  For a while I would check that board everyday, but I got fed up with the sea of filth.

To an extent we have to put up with a wild west type environment, that's partially what crypto is about to begin with.  Don't expect the anarcho-capitalist who owns this place to do much about it. 

Side note: I am not a vendor there, and it's not in the personal interest of myself to profit more through any of these changes. I am a buyer if anything, and it is just as unpleasant to sift through the garbage, as it is to try and sell there.

Link to digital goods sub-forum: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=93.0

If you are reading this thread, please click the link above and take a look at the mess that is called "digital goods". I think this is an issue that must be brought up, because legitimate sellers with quality products are riddled under an ocean of semi-illegal codes, cracked accounts, and other things obtained illegitimately. From a quick glance at the section, there are some goods that definitely should not belong in the same section as others. Premium domains that sell for hundreds go unnoticed because of the all of the sellers selling items for cents/dollars.

I think that the best bet to clean up the section would be one of my two solutions:

1. Create a new sub-forum under "marketplace" for all of the spammy goods
2. Create a new sub-forum under the exiting digital goods, alongside "invites & accounts", for all spammy goods


I would define spam goods as:

1. Gift cards, claim codes, coupons, or codes of any sort of low value
2. Cracked accounts (the majority)
3. VCC/VBA/anything related
4. Activation keys
5. Betting scripts, mostly Bustabit ones

I would also create a definition for goods of higher quality:

- Domains and websites
- Website scripts and themes
- Social media related items
- Physical gift cards
- Anything else not listed as spam goods

Now that I've listed out my definitions, go back to the digital goods sub-forum and look at the percentage of spammy goods vs. higher quality goods. It is in my opinion that a change is necessary and beneficial for the marketplace. I would love to hear thoughts and maybe other solutions to sort out the mess. Thanks